Straw poll.
Thought this would be an interesting thread to have on here to supplement the other thread. But since this is a forum that is pan uk(and beyond) I think along with your vote you should mention: where you are, and if you get a vote or not.
So I'll go first.
I'll vote Yes.
I live in Scotland.
I have a vote.
I'll vote No.
I live in Scotland.
I have a vote.
imnotverygood +1
I'll vote Yes.
I live in Scotland.
I have a vote.
I'm English 🙂
Don't care
Live in England
Don't have a vote
Yes,Scotland,yes.
Unless someone's going to keep count, wouldn't it be better to setup a survey or summit?
Yes, should be independent
I live in Scotland
I have a vote
No, but hey, if thats what they want, I'm not going to stop them
I live in England
I can't vote but since they can vote to stay in or go out, i think we should be able to also vote to see if we will let them stay or send them packing.
No
Live in Scotland
Have vote
legend - Member
Unless someone's going to keep count, wouldn't it be better to setup a survey or summit?
Never used survey monkey before.
is this working ok?
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/TGD7QJS
edit: yes seems to be, if any kind admin want to edit the OP to add this, please do. 🙂
No, we share to much common culture
I live in Scotland
I'll have a postal vote
No
Scotland
I'll be voting
No
English
England
But fully repect their right to be independent.
They have far too nice scenery to let them go.
I live in England.
I really couldn't give a toss either way whether Scotland goes independent or not.
And I don't think you realise that the vast majority of English people also couldn't give a toss either way.
I rather think that Scottish people are being very helpfully distracted from real issues by this discussion when they should be concentrating on quite serious issues which will affect their livelihoods.
No
Scottish
living in Scotland
Survey edited to show results after voting.
you can still visit zippykona (I think!)
No, we'd be screwed without them subsidising our taxes 😉
England
No vote
Yes, and good riddance! 😀
No, I like our union.
British, English, England.
I'll be voting Yes.
Scottish, live in Scotland.
I have a vote.
I really couldn't give a toss either way whether Scotland goes independent or not.
And I don't think you realise that the vast majority of English people also couldn't give a toss either way.
yet here you are aP once again, casting your vote anyway, getting all excited and taking part in yet another thread about Scotland, telling everyone how much you don't care.
You're like that kid at school who's obsessed with the class hottie but pretends he hates her, but somehow always ends up following her around anyway 🙂
Do you get a hardon everytime you see a thread about Scotland?
Vote YES
I live in England
Don't have a vote
No.
England
No vote
I think it would be a great shame to let go several hundred years of mutual co-operation in the name of Independence.
OMG. Can we make this the actual vote and never speak of this again!
So what about those 650b wheels then, I've heard they make the trails come alive.......
Don't care
Live in England
Don't have a vote
Can't see Yes vote having an answer to EU entry or a currency so I think it's a non starter. Poor plan. But I would like them to stay part of UK
I think they should gain independence, but only after moving the border to just south of Manchester.
Freeeeedooooom from the oppressive yoke of Westminster but for Yorkshire only. Who cares what Scotland want or even England, Wales and NI.
We do not need a currency union with the rest of the UK, you can keep your pound.
Can't see Yes vote having an answer to EU entry or a currency so I think it's a non starter. Poor plan. But I would like them to stay part of UK
The no vote don't have an answer for EU membership either, and only a half assed answer on currency.
I was undecided but the vitriolic nature of the NO campaign has convinced me Scotland would be better off on their own. Unfortunatly it is the same style fear based campaign that worked to prevent voting reform.
Yes
Live in Germany
don't get a vote.
Yes, and I have a vote. The problem with the survey is it doesnt split out the results into two charts, the ones who can vote and the ones who cant.
So far I make it:
Can vote
Yes 6
no 5
Cant vote
Yes 2
No 6
and a few that I cant work out.
Yes
I live in Scotland so have a vote.
Will vote. Yes
MEH - Welsh and wish the both of you would chuff off.
I'll vote no.
I live in Scotland.
I have a vote.
Yes
Live in Scotland
Have a vote
A vote that could result in the break up of the United Kingdom and only a certain few get to vote!
No
Don't have a vote.
Think we are stronger together and I think Scotland might struggle to get voted into the EU by any Euro country with an internal region fighting for similar independence.
English
Have vote
NO - for all my own reasons.
No
Divided we fall
No vote
No. We're all better off together.
Live in Scotland.
Do have a vote.
Yes
Live in England
No vote
yes.
it would make me sad, but they deserve a chance to get rid of the tories/westminster/a government elected by little england.
english.
I will be voting yes
When we go to war with Russia we will defo need the Scottish to help out a bit.
But, I don't have a vote so it doesn't matter what I think.
[i]Think we are stronger together and I think Scotland might struggle to get voted into the EU by any Euro country with an internal region fighting for similar independence. [/i]
So the Scottish Euro-Sceptics will vote 'yes', if there is a chance that Scotland won't get in to the EU?
Since I in the US, obviously don't have a vote and don't know enough of the intricate details to form a valid opinion.
Having said that, as long as they, independent or no, continue to produce fine Scottish Whisky, I won't have issue 😉
Survey surprisingly close to real polls so far.
39.2% yes
56.9% no
A vote that could result in the break up of the United Kingdom and only a certain few get to vote!
This!
No
Live in England
No vote
Keep us updated on the poll pls seosamh77
Yes
Live in Scotland and will be voting.
No.
Live in England.
Hate the Tories.
If I lived in Scotland, I would be voting 'Yes'.
No
Live in Scotland
Have the vote, and a career in defence that I'd like to keep for a while
No
Live in Scotland but not Scottish.
Have a vote.
No
Scotland.
I will vote.
No
Live in Scotland
Have a vote
(same story for Mrs S. too if you want to add that in!)
I'll vote Yes.
I live in GeordieLand.
I have don't have a vote but may be able to vote if I live in Scotland.
Freeedddooommm!
I live in Scotland and will be voting Yes.
Yes.
Live in Scotland.
Will be voting.
Live in Scotland and will vote yes.
Why would any country not want it's independence?
Yes
Have a vote
🙂
isn't this the second time you or someone has started this same thread?
but currently no, because I would have to get a new job or move to england.
No
English
No vote
I listened to the R4 Drama of the week on my ride to work this morning. A very interesting (obviously fictional) weekend where Salmond and Cameron meet to discuss the details of the split after the Scots won a 'yes'.
I would vote no as
1) Scotland will fail financially and politically as a separate nation (not trolling, my honest opinion) having negative effects on England
2) it will be sad to see the Great Britain disappear; obviously the UK will still exist.
3) I think the SNP are misleading the Scottish voters. Membership of the EU will be nigh on impossible, a currency union is ridiculous, a sustainable Scottish economy is highly unlikely. The SNP are a single issue party and these are doomed to fail.
If Scotland control their own borders and laws re. immigration, will we need a secure border?
Is there a tally of voting intentions of those able to vote?
No but would more like devolved powers.
Live in Scotland. British born in Edinburgh. Having looked at who would be entitled to s Scottish passport I'd encourage everyone to come for a holiday around voting time. Almost gets you nationality.
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No
Scotland
I have a vote.
Very close from my counts of who can actually vote., not much for those who can't.
Can vote:
?Yes 15?
no 14
Cant vote?:
Yes 5?
No 11
Seems quite a few people voting no and using 'history' as the reason. Seems daft to me, history is exactly that, it will alwsys remain and can't be changed.
makecoldplayhistory's reasons on the other hand show a massive misunderstanding of the whole situation imo.
Yes.
Scottish but living dahn sarf.
I don't have a vote.
I'm sure every part of the map of Empire that used to be coloured red went its own way with the admonition and scorn of Her Majesty's Government and its lackeys and lickspittles ringing in their ears. A few years later, how many of these disloyal subjects have crawled back for another lick at the colonial jackboot because Her Majesty's Government was right about them being too small/poor/remote/wayward/stupid to govern themselves? How many have been reduced to a system of barter in lieu of a currency? Which of them are pariah states that have not been admitted to the EU, the UN or NATO? How many of them have enjoyed the advantages of natural resources, wealth, education, location, etc etc that Scotland does?
Britishness is a false construct, a shorthand for Englishness, which is many decades past its sell-by date.
Scotland can and should be an independent country.
Her Majesty's Government and its lackeys and lickspittles ....the colonial jackboot......
I feel your oppression StefMcDef. How do you manage to live in England, it must be awful for you ?
StefMcDef - Member
...I'm sure every part of the map of Empire that used to be coloured red went its own way with the admonition and scorn of Her Majesty's Government and its lackeys and lickspittles ringing in their ears...
I'm an ex-colonial and I've seen that process in action.
I'm surprised so many Scots are falling for it. Possibly a version of Stockholm Syndrome? 🙂
^ Jockholm Syndrome. A new and virulent strain.
Possibly a version of Stockholm Syndrome?
Because Scotland played no part in building the British Empire ?
I feel your oppression StefMcDef. How do you manage to live in England, it must be awful for you ?
I live in a country that gets the governments it actually votes for. I don't feel the least bit oppressed.
Yes.
Don't have a vote.
I reckon that come the 'no' vote there will be continued pressure from Scotland for more powers and greater devolution and that England and Scotland would - in the long run, they'd be teething troubles for sure! - be better served by a clean break.
Because Scotland played no part in building the British Empire ?
Most colonial soldiers in India were Indians - the Empire was built by soldiers from the countries that were being ruled.
Anyhow, living in Scotland and voting Yes.
the Empire was built by soldiers from the countries that were being ruled.
They conquered themselves ? You've got to give it to these English if nothing else they're certainly very crafty.
Look up the numbers - the Indian Mutiny of 1857 was a rebellion of local soldiers in the employ of the British East India Company.
iirc a key tactic of the British Empire was divide and rule.
Playing one set of Indians against another was key to success.
Was the Second World War Indian army not the largest volunteer army ever? (Goes googling) yep seems so. Don't have time to check, but I also seem to remember many fought with the carrot of independence? (Question not statement)
http://gaidhlig.educationscotland.gov.uk/scotlandshistory/makingindustrialurban/empire/index.asp
Click on the top if you need the English version.