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[i]Think we are stronger together and I think Scotland might struggle to get voted into the EU by any Euro country with an internal region fighting for similar independence. [/i]
So the Scottish Euro-Sceptics will vote 'yes', if there is a chance that Scotland won't get in to the EU?
Since I in the US, obviously don't have a vote and don't know enough of the intricate details to form a valid opinion.
Having said that, as long as they, independent or no, continue to produce fine Scottish Whisky, I won't have issue 😉
Survey surprisingly close to real polls so far.
39.2% yes
56.9% no
A vote that could result in the break up of the United Kingdom and only a certain few get to vote!
This!
No
Live in England
No vote
Keep us updated on the poll pls seosamh77
Yes
Live in Scotland and will be voting.
No.
Live in England.
Hate the Tories.
If I lived in Scotland, I would be voting 'Yes'.
No
Live in Scotland
Have the vote, and a career in defence that I'd like to keep for a while
No
Live in Scotland but not Scottish.
Have a vote.
No
Scotland.
I will vote.
No
Live in Scotland
Have a vote
(same story for Mrs S. too if you want to add that in!)
I'll vote Yes.
I live in GeordieLand.
I have don't have a vote but may be able to vote if I live in Scotland.
Freeedddooommm!
I live in Scotland and will be voting Yes.
Yes.
Live in Scotland.
Will be voting.
Live in Scotland and will vote yes.
Why would any country not want it's independence?
Yes
Have a vote
🙂
isn't this the second time you or someone has started this same thread?
but currently no, because I would have to get a new job or move to england.
No
English
No vote
I listened to the R4 Drama of the week on my ride to work this morning. A very interesting (obviously fictional) weekend where Salmond and Cameron meet to discuss the details of the split after the Scots won a 'yes'.
I would vote no as
1) Scotland will fail financially and politically as a separate nation (not trolling, my honest opinion) having negative effects on England
2) it will be sad to see the Great Britain disappear; obviously the UK will still exist.
3) I think the SNP are misleading the Scottish voters. Membership of the EU will be nigh on impossible, a currency union is ridiculous, a sustainable Scottish economy is highly unlikely. The SNP are a single issue party and these are doomed to fail.
If Scotland control their own borders and laws re. immigration, will we need a secure border?
Is there a tally of voting intentions of those able to vote?
No but would more like devolved powers.
Live in Scotland. British born in Edinburgh. Having looked at who would be entitled to s Scottish passport I'd encourage everyone to come for a holiday around voting time. Almost gets you nationality.
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No
Scotland
I have a vote.
Very close from my counts of who can actually vote., not much for those who can't.
Can vote:
?Yes 15?
no 14
Cant vote?:
Yes 5?
No 11
Seems quite a few people voting no and using 'history' as the reason. Seems daft to me, history is exactly that, it will alwsys remain and can't be changed.
makecoldplayhistory's reasons on the other hand show a massive misunderstanding of the whole situation imo.
Yes.
Scottish but living dahn sarf.
I don't have a vote.
I'm sure every part of the map of Empire that used to be coloured red went its own way with the admonition and scorn of Her Majesty's Government and its lackeys and lickspittles ringing in their ears. A few years later, how many of these disloyal subjects have crawled back for another lick at the colonial jackboot because Her Majesty's Government was right about them being too small/poor/remote/wayward/stupid to govern themselves? How many have been reduced to a system of barter in lieu of a currency? Which of them are pariah states that have not been admitted to the EU, the UN or NATO? How many of them have enjoyed the advantages of natural resources, wealth, education, location, etc etc that Scotland does?
Britishness is a false construct, a shorthand for Englishness, which is many decades past its sell-by date.
Scotland can and should be an independent country.
Her Majesty's Government and its lackeys and lickspittles ....the colonial jackboot......
I feel your oppression StefMcDef. How do you manage to live in England, it must be awful for you ?
StefMcDef - Member
...I'm sure every part of the map of Empire that used to be coloured red went its own way with the admonition and scorn of Her Majesty's Government and its lackeys and lickspittles ringing in their ears...
I'm an ex-colonial and I've seen that process in action.
I'm surprised so many Scots are falling for it. Possibly a version of Stockholm Syndrome? 🙂
^ Jockholm Syndrome. A new and virulent strain.
Possibly a version of Stockholm Syndrome?
Because Scotland played no part in building the British Empire ?
I feel your oppression StefMcDef. How do you manage to live in England, it must be awful for you ?
I live in a country that gets the governments it actually votes for. I don't feel the least bit oppressed.
Yes.
Don't have a vote.
I reckon that come the 'no' vote there will be continued pressure from Scotland for more powers and greater devolution and that England and Scotland would - in the long run, they'd be teething troubles for sure! - be better served by a clean break.
Because Scotland played no part in building the British Empire ?
Most colonial soldiers in India were Indians - the Empire was built by soldiers from the countries that were being ruled.
Anyhow, living in Scotland and voting Yes.
the Empire was built by soldiers from the countries that were being ruled.
They conquered themselves ? You've got to give it to these English if nothing else they're certainly very crafty.
Look up the numbers - the Indian Mutiny of 1857 was a rebellion of local soldiers in the employ of the British East India Company.
iirc a key tactic of the British Empire was divide and rule.
Playing one set of Indians against another was key to success.
Was the Second World War Indian army not the largest volunteer army ever? (Goes googling) yep seems so. Don't have time to check, but I also seem to remember many fought with the carrot of independence? (Question not statement)
http://gaidhlig.educationscotland.gov.uk/scotlandshistory/makingindustrialurban/empire/index.asp
Click on the top if you need the English version.
Live in Scotland
Voting Yes
Have a vote
English, lived in Scotland all of my adult life, voting on behalf of my kids best interests rather than my personal view
Do have a vote
Will be voting no
How the heck is Scotland like India, Scotland wasn't a colony. As such it benefited vastly as the rest of the UK did from being part of the Britain that ran the Empire. You only have to look at the history of Glasgow to see that.
English living in England
Undecided but would probably vote yes if I lived in Scotland
This is despite the truly worrying amounts of BS and bluster coming from the Yes camp and it's supporters.
Edit: inflammatory misleading nonsense like this:
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a) you already have a Scottish Parliament b) the second map should show the whole UK including Scotland surely?
And Steff McDeff playing the 'poor wee Scotland under the yoke of the English colonial oppressors' card. 🙄
Scotland wasn't colonised.
Britishness is a false construct
No, it's not. Very clearly.
I'm English.
Live in England with no vote, would vote no, but have no objection to scots wanting to leave if they wish.
I do think it is foolish to base an economic/political decision on what is essentially xenophobia.
Also to those saying they want to get away from Westminster centric politics, they will just be damning themselves to Edinburgh centred politics instead. Scots politics is already infected with this, look at what happend with Holyrood Parliament building. Same shit different location.
Vote yes (what's the worst that can happen?)
live in Scotland
have a vote
am English.
what's the worst that can happen?
Fire, flood, earthquake, plague of locusts,... 😉
bencooper - Memberwhat's the worst that can happen?
Fire, flood, earthquake, plague of locusts,...
Please keep project fear out of it.
what's the worst that can happen?
A huge drop in living standards.