Anyone considered that the price rise is a good thing?
At the margin people will choose to drive less resulting in less pollution and congestion , the better traffic flow further increases efficiency and reduces pollution.
It makes electrics and hybrids more attractive in cost comparisons. Even less pollution as people switch.
It encourages car sharing which again cuts pollution and may save people money.
It encourages public transport use. When fuel prices went high a few years back Madame's colleague joined her on the train, as soon as prices dropped she went back to the car.
It encourages walking and bicycle use
I paid 129.8p at Sainsbury's in Chester last night filling up the wife's Evoque, man that car has a small tank.
The day before it was 130.9p at the Shell near Northwich for my car
for once i agree with you edukator on a personal level
how ever by proxy it also drives up the cost of anything that is *shipped* to location.
but if it drives development of better methods for shipping then im all for it .
Combination of tax rises and oil price has raised the price in Brittany to around 1.42€/litre (supermarket) - headline in the local paper is "death of diesel...."
Anyone considered that the price rise is a good thing?
As someone who is extremely tied into a high number of personal annual miles due to circumstances beyond his control, I’m going to go with no. It’s a bad thing, that will make me and my family worse off. If there actually were viable and cost effective alternatives available to me I would be less negative, but...
Dare I ask what car you do your "high number of personal miles in", V8ninety? (I realise it's unlikely to ba a V8 ninety)
Anyone considered that the price rise is a good thing?
I live in the city centre, at time of writing there are two transit vans clattering away outside my window and they have been for 15 mins or more. So, yes.
132.9
Dare I ask what car you do your “high number of personal miles in”, V8ninety? (I realise it’s unlikely to ba a V8 ninety)
Ha! No, those days are gone. Family mileage is split between a Skoda Fabia diesel and a diesel pickup. Need the diesel pickup, but it’s forced to do more miles than I’d like to do in it because it’s not (yet) economically sensible to run another smaller more efficient vehicle along side it due to replicated servicing, insurance and capital investment. FWIW, Fabia will be getting replaced by a Nissan Leaf in a few months, which will hopefully reduce our exposure to pump price hikes. What I’d really like to see is Nissan produce an eNavara...
two transit vans clattering away outside my window
I suspect that the person who isn’t turning these engines off, isn’t the person paying for the diesel, so the point is moot.
Seems like high diesel prices are encouraging you to make some good decisions for both yourself and the planet, V8ninety. That not sarky, ironic or anything, because if everybody makes the same decisions we'll all benefit.
Seems like high diesel prices are encouraging you to make some good decisions for both yourself and the planet, V8ninety
I see your point, but diesel prices were high enough already. These recent hikes simply represent increased pain and reduced buying power for something more efficient.
because if everybody makes the same decisions we’ll all benefit.
Either that, or the government will slap a massive tax hike on the currently massive tax dodge that electric vehicles represent. Gotta get that revenue from somewhere, eh? Long may electric vehicles be outliers.
Britain is an oil importing country, the damge done to the balance of payments by oil imports is a massive drag on the economy. Yes tax revenues will have to come from somewhere but as the country won't be bleeding capital and selling off it's productive assets there will still be something to tax. Britain has the opportunity to become a leader in EV production, as do other countires, or go on making OPEC richer and Britian poorer. Unfortunately I suspect that Britian will just end up inporting cars whatever makes tham move, because inward investment is less likely following the Briexit vote and there's no drive to EV from within Uk manufaturing.
As with any tax issue the fist thing to tax in the 300bn or so of GDP (IIRC please check and correct if necessary) that currently escpaes tax completely thanks to Britain's no tax on the rich laws.
Between 130.9 to 133.9 Bedfordshire. Its seemingly going up every few days
That article is grossly misleading, Paton. The truth comes out in the last paragraph, they are just talking about crude and ignoring refined oil products:
Once processed fuels like gasoline and diesel are counted, it’s still a big net importer.
