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Defiantly VS Definitely

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There, their, they're. Aren't they just interchangeable? 😜


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 10:17 am
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Ooh, I'm gonna try and remeber that nickc. I always pronounce it definAtely so always spell it wrong, but yeah it contains the word 'finite' in it. Brilliant!

I have to check what I've spelt as I ALWAYS press ; instead of ' for some reason.....


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 10:18 am
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There's a guy at work who uses conformation instead of confirmation.

The use of addicting puts my teeth on edge, surely it's addictive?


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 10:23 am
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"Could of, should of" etc is my pet hate. It's all over social media now.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 10:24 am
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Once had a CV from someone applying for a job who listed their skills as being a “diligent prof reader” and having excellent “attention to deal”. Needless to say they weren’t shortlisted.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 10:29 am
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Former sub-editor here, so constantly triggered by this kind of stuff. Affect/effect and principal/principle get me going.

Obviously my pure hatred is reserved for people who don't know what disinterested actually means. 🙂


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 10:33 am
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Also see draw instead of drawer and shirely instead of surely (which I am never sure people do deliberately or not).

Stop calling me Shirley


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 10:49 am
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Seems the op inspired today's farside


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 11:08 am
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Spellcheck has been a thing for at least as long as I can remember within Office apps.

How old are you? I know my early attempts at office most definitely didn't have any sort of spell checker.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 11:18 am
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Damp squid.

Even after explaining the etymology of the actual phrase one of my grown up daughters still says it, she thought I was making it up.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 11:19 am
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You say break I say brake.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 11:21 am
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How can this be misspelt so many times?

If you spell definitely 'Definately' then if you have autocorrect its 50/50 whether it goes definitely or defiantly.

Also see draw instead of drawer and shirely instead of surely

See https://screenrant.com/airplane-best-quotes-ranked-dont-call-shirley/


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 11:42 am
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I know my early attempts at office most definitely didn’t have any sort of spell checker.

It was in word star from about 1982 and word prefect around the same time.

Don't get me wrong you might predate those but it's unlikely you were using a computer day to day unless you worked in a quite specific field in the late 70s.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 11:46 am
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Damp squid.

Even after explaining the etymology of the actual phrase one of my grown up daughters still says it, she thought I was making it up.

Ask her if she's got that sick squid she owes you.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 11:48 am
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On a slight tangent, one of the headlines in our local rag this week said "Tonnes of recycling is going to waste"
Err, no... tonnes ISN'T doing anything at all, you buffoon. Tonnes ARE going to waste.
The same grammatical nonsense appeared a couple of times in the accompanying article.

FFS, your sposed to be a professinial journalist, ect, ect


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 11:52 am
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word prefect

*Perfect

'Chomping at the bit' is a slight annoyance to me.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 11:53 am
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I think this is a spell checker problem

What's interesting with spell checkers is which words are programmed in.
On my phone, I can start typing the word "various". The first option it gives me on auto complete every time is Vario.

In what world am I talking about watch straps or a Mercedes heavy van?! Never! So **** off with that option!


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 11:54 am
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You would not believe how many people that work in the bike world cannot get descent vs decent vs dissent right. Or ride on bridalways. Or are peddling along.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 11:59 am
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word prefect

*Perfect

Damn you auto correct 😂 (which, FWIW, I think first defaults to on in word 2003)


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 12:01 pm
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descent vs decent

One is on single track, one is "gravel" right?


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 12:03 pm
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It is a particular joy of the modern age when a ranty gammon on social media uses 'defiantly' when they mean 'definitely'. Since there is no way in hell they're going to back down, it is then very easy to manoeuvre them into arguing defiantly that they are right. I can usually elicit a tirade of badly spelled abuse in less than three replies. Then I just block them anyway - leaving them fuming into empty space.

I mean, keep banging on about British this and English that, but they can't even get their own language right.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 12:10 pm
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ect, ect

Ectetera, ectetera?


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 12:21 pm
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Also see draw instead of drawer

This irritates me way more than it should.

and shirely instead of surely (which I am never sure people do deliberately or not).

It is deliberate, and don't call me Shirley. (As someone else pointed out, it's a Leslie Nielsen gag.)

The way I remember how to spell definitely is that it contains what it means.

"Definately" always legs me up. But you'd never misspell "finite."

The use of addicting puts my teeth on edge, surely it’s addictive?

I don't think "addicting" is a word at all. It's either an Americanism or an affectation of non-native speakers.

Affect/effect

I've never had a problem with this until I've seen it wrong so many times that I've started to doubt myself. The Internet has literally made me stupider.

On a slight tangent, one of the headlines in our local rag this week said “Tonnes of recycling is going to waste”
Err, no… tonnes ISN’T doing anything at all, you buffoon. Tonnes ARE going to waste.

I'm not convinced this is right, you know. "Tonnes of recycling" is a singular entity containing many parts. It's like saying "Microsoft are..." vs "Microsoft is..." - it's counterintuitive but the latter is correct.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 12:25 pm
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Also it's already waste, which is why it's suitable for recycling. You don't recycle things which are in use.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 12:34 pm
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It was in word star from about 1982 and word prefect around the same time.
Please tell me that was intentional 😂

Yeah even the crappy WP I had with my Amstrad CPC mid-late 80s had a spell checker!!

I work in design/printing and have one customer who always insists on things having a "boarder" 🙄 😂 Always makes me think of pirates capturing a ship 🤣


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 12:37 pm
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It was in word star from about 1982 and word prefect around the same time.

Must have been missing in the software we had at uni then (1992) as i had to manually proofread and spell check all my work (Lotus Word Pro IIRC).

It could do word count though, so at least i knew how many more (badly spelt) words i needed to pad the document out by.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 12:48 pm
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Please tell me that was intentional 😂

Regrettably I can't assume perchy's much coveted crown


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 12:50 pm
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ect, ect

Ectetera, ectetera?

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Fazackerly!

“Tonnes of recycling” is a singular entity containing many parts"

Hmm, that doesn't convince me the grammar is correct . Consider if it had said "Several tonnes of recycling..." - that's surely a plurality, so IS would defiantly be wrong there. Anyway, apart from my attempt 9 or 10 words ago to drag things back on topic, I recognise I'm being grammar pedant rather than completely-wrong-bloody-word pedant.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 12:58 pm
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Must have been missing in the software we had at uni then (1992) as i had to manually proofread and spell check all my work (Lotus Word Pro IIRC).

I'm surprised by that, I know that by 1997 Word Pro had an as-you-type spellchecker, so it seems odd that didn't have a menu based on only a few years earlier.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 1:25 pm
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Consider if it had said “Several tonnes of recycling…” – that’s surely a plurality, so IS would defiantly be wrong there.

Respectfully disagree. There is only one "several tonnes of recycling," the recycling is a homogenous mass not discrete items. It's perhaps easier to see if you make it the object in a sentence, "in the loading bay there [is|are] several tonnes of recycling."

"Several tonnes of recycling" is no different from "a pile of recycling" and you wouldn't say "a pile of recycling are..." Similarly, you wouldn't say "tonnes of water are..."

There's probably a linguistic term for this. Mass noun? Maybe.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 1:38 pm
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Espresso/Expresso. Really grinds on me. The latter is not even a word FFS.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 1:57 pm
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Or are peddling along.

When not breaking.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 1:58 pm
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Must have been missing in the software we had at uni then (1992) as i had to manually proofread and spell check all my work (Lotus Word Pro IIRC).

I’m surprised by that, I know that by 1997 Word Pro had an as-you-type spellchecker, so it seems odd that didn’t have a menu based on only a few years earlier.
I'm not even sure Word Pro was a thing in 92 (still called Ami Pro back then?) But that definitely had a spell-checker so more than likely too many pints of snakebite-and-black at the Students' Union was the factor here 😂


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 2:01 pm
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spell checker

We're not at ****ing hogwarts 😜

Gawd it's noun FML 🤯


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 2:15 pm
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I'm defiantly dyslexic and have no idea what is going on in this thread.

(I also just had to google how to spell dyslexic :-D)


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 2:27 pm
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I’m not even sure Word Pro was a thing in 92 (still called Ami Pro back then?)

It's borderline. I remember Ami Pro becoming Word Pro back when I worked at Time, and I started there in 1992. So it was likely renamed circa 1993-94.

Fun fact: Time's marketing juggernaut used to advertise computers with glossy photos of boxed software and huge splashes about how many £100s worth of software came with their systems. The cost per licence Time paid for Lotus SmartSuite? 1p.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 2:29 pm
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Respectfully disagree. There is only one “several tonnes of recycling,” the recycling is a homogenous mass not discrete items

Looks like we're going to have to agree to disagree on this.
In the original newspaper headline, the 'tonnes' was the subject, not the homogenous mass of material, therefore there are several of them. In my mind at least. I can't ask my old English O-level teacher as he's sadly long gone, since that was way back in the mid 1970s. But I think I remember enough of it after all these years.

Back to defiance and definition, I suggest


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 2:42 pm
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Didn't ami pro and lotus word pro run in tandem for a while, I seem to recall it depended upon how you bought it as to how it was named - eg lotus suite came with word pro, bought stand alone and you bought ami pro.

That said I was barely into double digits so unless it came bundled with a Turtles figure or whatever else I was excited about that year*, I'd probably not have known.

*Probably wolfenstein by 1992


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 2:43 pm
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Locoscript anyone?


 
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Only chosen in acapulco I belive.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 3:07 pm
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In the original newspaper headline, the ‘tonnes’ was the subject, not the homogenous mass of material, therefore there are several of them.

The subject is "recycling," the "tonnes" is a quantifier.

Maybe.

That recycling? There is tonnes of it.
That recycling? There are tonnes of it.

We may indeed have to agree to disagree, I'm not convinced.

Didn’t ami pro and lotus word pro run in tandem for a while, I seem to recall it depended upon how you bought it as to how it was named – eg lotus suite came with word pro, bought stand alone and you bought ami pro.

Now you come to mention it I'm pretty certain you're correct. I'm reasonably confident we sold both for a while.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 3:29 pm
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Only chosen in acapulco I belive.

Is that where all the down comes from?


 
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Only if you space too long


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 3:36 pm
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I’m not even sure Word Pro was a thing in 92 (still called Ami Pro back then?) But that definitely had a spell-checker

TBH, i had to check what it was, because i know we had the lotus bundle on the PCs at uni (lotus 123 and whatever.)
Could have been either, but still there was no spell check. Caused lots of problems for me, as i can't spell to save my life.

so more than likely too many pints of snakebite-and-black at the Students’ Union was the factor here

I've never had a pint of snakebite, with or without black in my life. I was also almost completely sober for the first two years of my time at uni.

Really made up for it in the 3rd and 4th though. Nothing like leaving a club in the wee small hours and then getting to a mechanics lecture for 8:00 on friday morning having not slept since 7 am the previous day.


 
Posted : 28/04/2023 4:11 pm
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I do find defiantly odd. I am sure peeps who write it like that say it right I have never heard anyone say "defiantly" when they appeared to mean definitely. I think spell checking must be part of the cause somehow.

Its not like "toe/tow the line" which sound the same and make as much literal sense as each other. So quite forgiveable, but that one really annoys me for some reason.


 
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