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just in time for the new series....

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/survivors/index.shtml ]survivors[/url]

[url= http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/deadbiologists.html ]Been expecting something like this for a good few years now[/url]

[url= http://www.naturalnews.com/008227.html ][b]For more men with silver foil hats[/b][/url]

Ahhh - so it's an alien virus sent from space by the lizard people! We're all doomed (unless you've got scales and a forked tongue)

so that program about living with pigs was well timed...

So in a poor, far-off country with a population of 110 million, 100 have died from an unusual disease. Presumably tens of thousands have had the infection but not died...just like flu, in fact.

So perhaps we shouldn't worry too much.

It's ok it won't affect me. I've already died of aids, sars, bird flu and mad cow disease.

[i]Saw the most read storey of the day was in fact
What Independent Readers will be ordering next[/i]

I get the message 'pop up blocked'. Surely a bit of a product fail 😉

the scenarios and arguments put foreward in that link Simon have more holes than a collinder convention.

The problem with all government conspiracy theories is they all rely on teams of tight lipped, perfectionist, evil geniuses all going about their business in an extremely efficient and secretive manner.

But we're talking about people who can't get on a train without leaving unencrypted documents lying about.

How many dead now? How many killed by/in cars in the same time?

>But we're talking about people who can't get on a train without leaving unencrypted documents lying about.

All part of the ruse innit, make the punters think you can't organise a piss up in a brewery.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8019832.stm

"I think swine flu is very different from a normal flu because I just couldn't get out of bed."

No love, you're obviously confusing "normal flu" with a cold.

'How swine flu could be a bigger threat to humanity than nuclear warfare'

http://www.****/debate/article-1173758/MICHAEL-HANLON-How-swine-flu-bigger-threat-humanity-nuclear-warfare.html?ITO=1490

[i]'How swine flu could be a bigger threat to house prices than nuclear warfare'[/i]

Surely?

[url=

Dr Dixon[/url]

This man seems to have the answers, although to be honest I got a little bored half way through and started counting how many times his eyebrows went up and down.

As usual, the Daily Mash knows the truth

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/don%27t-panic-but-you-are-going-to-die-200904271727/

meh, SARS killed me, i also died from bird flu and BSE.

The puppy pulling power link on that page is far more interesting than us all dying.

[url] http://puppypullingpower.wordpress.com/ [/url]

I just sneezed... OMGi'mgonnadie OMGi'mgonnadie OMGi'mgonnadie OMGi'mgonnadie OMGi'mgonnadie OMGi'mgonnadie OMGi'mgonnadie OMGi'mgonnadie OMGi'mgonnadie

The puppy pulling power link on that page is far more interesting than us all dying.

http://puppypullingpower.wordpress.com/

Now it seems Samuri has been infected too; by virus advertising!!!

Cressers would have known what to do in a situation like this.

That Daily Mash story is fantastic, love the last two paragraphs!

DON'T PANIC BUT YOU ARE GOING TO DIE

PEOPLE across the world were last night urged not to panic as experts warned that most of you would be dead by the end of this sentence.

Daily Mail editor Paul Dacre is badly dehydrated
As swine flu swept across the globe governments sought to calm fears by ordering 400 million coffins, while media organisations offered a reward to any scientist prepared to use the word 'holocaust'.

In the UK, experts stressed there was no risk from pork products before urging Britain's army of morons to round-up all the sausages they could find and throw them into the sea.

Professor Henry Brubaker, of the Institute for Studies, said: "There's nothing to worry about but this is definitely worse than four simultaneous nuclear wars and a dinosaur invasion."

Governments have called on media organisations to work together in the face of what one official described as 'a nice, big, fat panic'.

Professor Brubaker added: "The world is paying the inevitable price for years of unprotected pig sex.

"It's no surprise this started in a devoutly Catholic country where everyone follows the Pope's instructions to the letter, especially the pig molesters.

"Pig sex, chicken sex, monkey sex - eventually they all come back and bite us on the arse. But not goat sex, that still seems to be fine."

Meanwhile the editor of Daily Mail was last night under observation in a central London hospital after suffering what witnesses say was a 'cataclysmic ejaculation'.

A source said: "He got more and more excited as the details came in and then, when we got the Brubaker quotes, he went all cross-eyed, fell backwards off his chair and his trousers exploded. There was spunk everywhere."

Before we dismiss the 'conspiracy theorists', consider the fact that [url= http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Chemtrails/UK.html ]our own Goverments have been carrying out biological warfare experiemnts on us...[/url]

I have a cousin who worked at Porton Down. She was not allowed talk about her work. Why not? Porton Down is officially a research centre, who's aim is to produce vaccines against possible chemical/bilogical attacks. So, if that's all you're doing, why not be open about it?

That SARS thing always struck me as odd. Outbreak, deaths, mass panic, and shops in London even, selling (utterly useless) face masks. Then, it disappeared as quickly as it started.

These outbreaks always seem to start very suddenly, and cause a lot of panic, before being dealt with. Meanwhile, shares in Pharmaceutical companies who manufacture the vaccines, skyrocket.

The one that made me laugh, was the Millenium Bug. Midnight came and went, and all the software companies who made 'protect your PC' products, made an absolute fortune.

Conspiracy Theorist, me?

You bet. I don't trust anyone.

These tinfoil pants are a tad scatchy, I have to say...

How do the people organising these tests make sure none of their family get affected by them without giving the game away? Assuming they care about them it's highly likely that some of the people who organised the thing had relatives in the areas concerned. Do they suggest they take a trip to their mothers, or give them a free holiday for the week?

I have a cousin who worked at Porton Down. She was not allowed talk about her work. Why not? Porton Down is officially a research centre, who's aim is to produce vaccines against possible chemical/bilogical attacks. So, if that's all you're doing, why not be open about it?

Because they also do a heap of TOP SECRET work put your tin foil pants ion the wash they smell

I know, mikewsmith; Porton Down is a chemical and biological weapons production plant, that's why they don't talk about it. I'm not daft. It's where most of the stuff that our Governments have exposed us to, over the years, has been made.

Samuri; there have been members of workers families who've been affected.

However, some families in areas which bore the brunt of the secret tests are convinced the experiments have led to their children suffering birth defects, physical handicaps and learning difficulties.

David Orman, an army officer from Bournemouth, is demanding a public inquiry. His wife, Janette, was born in East Lulworth in Dorset, close to where many of the trials took place. She had a miscarriage, then gave birth to a son with cerebral palsy. Janette's three sisters, also born in the village while the tests were being carried out, have also given birth to children with unexplained problems, as have a number of their neighbours.

Such stories are always very quickly hushed-up, people paid off, media ordered not to publish details.

I can see the point of exposing people to harmless bacteria etc, to be able to study the spread of infection and that, as this surely has a vitally important role in helping to combat epidemics. But sometimes, things go a bit wrong.

That's bonkers. He knew lots of his family were pregnant who were in the area when they were running tests. They'd have to pay me an awful lot of money to keep quiet about that. I suppose they'd offer me money, I'd refuse and then I'd have a nasty car accident.

We have a chap in the office, just come back from holiday in Mexico couple of weeks ago. Coughing and sneezing lots.
Reckon I've days left at best.

RudeBoy, you conveniently left off the next paragraph...............

The local health authority has denied there is a cluster, but Orman believes otherwise. He said: 'I am convinced something terrible has happened. [b]The village was a close-knit community and to have so many birth defects over such a short space of time has to be more than coincidence.' [/b]

edit: double post

[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8020039.stm ]And while everyone's distracted with Global Pig Flu, let's slip something out in the hope people will be panicking too much to take any notice....[/url]

Pickers; can I have yer bike, then?

TINAS; din't think it was relevant. Do you? Please explain.

thats about as old as my planet-x beenie

dunno, depends how close-nit the village was

RB: you are a classic conspiracy theorist. Don't let a reasonable explanation get in the way of an outlandishly complex and extremely unlikely one.

WRT the millennium bug. I did some Y2K work and I've also had to tidy up systems with genuine issues post-Y2K. I suspect many programmers on here have. But then we would say that wouldn't we comrades? 🙄

RudeBoy, FWIW I've been to Porton many times and talked to the scientists. Yes, they test some nasty stuff, and they have to make it in order to develop counter-measures such as treatments for nerve poisons. I wouldn't want to be a pig on their farm.

I can't comment on the above story except to say that it ain't been hushed up very effectively if you have found it on the net, and that just becasue a woman & her sisters have had breeding problems doesn't mean it's due to nasties produced at Porton. (As it's a family, that might indicate a genetic problem, not environmental) The nasty tests are carried out in Canada, these days. Lulworth tests are usually dispersion based, involving innocuous but traceable substances.

And while everyone's distracted with Global Pig Flu, let's slip something out in the hope people will be panicking too much to take any notice....

Of course, that explains it, the UK government has clearly released a deadly virus in Mexico so that it can draw attention away from announcing a few more details about a long-standing proposal to force ISPs to monitor internet usage. 🙄

best bit of journalism i've seen today was the BBC's coverage of the radiation leaks in scotland.

Takes them untill the last paragraph before they mention that none of the material released was actualy harmfull, infact I'd bet that bottled water is more radioactive than the cooling water.

Pickers; can I have yer bike, then?

Sorry, already sold them to buy 3 large boxes of those little blue face masks. They must be REALLY good cos everyones using them on the telly...

GrahamS; don't be so quick to dismiss 'conspiracy theories'.

I'm merely entertaining the idea that the development of certain strains of viruses and bacteria, and the subsequent deployment of such agents, on an unsuspecting public, is possible, and as has actually been proven, real.

What if the Government had developed and released a neurological agent, which made people think the Government was all nice and caring?

What if it din't affect [i]everyone[/i]? 😉

Like I said; I can understand the need to study how epidemics work. In order to protect populations against them.

But what if, sometimes, otherwise well-meaning scientists get it wrong? This is the bit that worries me. And due to the Official Secrets Act, lots of stuff is hidden from us.

Moses; my cousin no longer works at Porton Down. Since she worked there, she has developed several serious allergies, which she never had before, and other health issues.

I'm not suggesting there is a definite, incontrovertible link, but it's a possibility, for sure. I doubt that any studies into whether her condition is as a result of her work there will ever be carried out. And anyway, scientists can be paid off, and told to produce 'evidence' that satisfies the Powers That Be.

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Hmm, tinternets went all funny, just then.... 😯

BTW; I'm having a bit of fun. But it's food for thought, eh?

Best to keep an open mind, and all that.

Rudey,

The thing you always overlook in your conspiracy theories is the simple fact that successive governments the world over are self evidently unable to organise a saddle sniff in a bike shed.

Just to support this, take a quick glance through the following highly unscientific and thoroughly inexhaustive list :-

Jacqui Smith: Bath plug porn
Bill Clinton : Smoking habits
Jonathan Aitkin : Being a Lying Arse
Jeffery Archer : Perverting the Course of Justice
Richard Nixon : Watergate
Derek Conway: Illicit funding of his kids at university (and for being shite in the Bill)
Neil Hamilton: Cash for Questions
David Blunkett: Mistaking another mans wife for someone who fancied him etc

There are two US presidents and two British Home Secretaries here, who simply couldn’t hide their own transgressions, let alone a huge illegal state conspiracy.

…………………….. Unless of course their undoing is all part of the greater conspiracy….. where in fact this lot were in fact heroes of the people and have been silenced before they could spill the beans on the big conspiracy………

Bugger…… hadn’t thought of that one !

don't be so quick to dismiss 'conspiracy theories'.

I was quick to dismiss your Y2K one because I know it to be bogus through first hand experience.

due to the Official Secrets Act, lots of stuff is hidden from us.

Indeed. But such work is still open to scrutiny in some quarters and the people performing it still have basic human ethics. I'm bound by the Act for several things I've worked on - but none of them involved evil genius plans of the Illuminati or whoever you think runs the world.

What if the Government had developed and released a neurological agent, which made people think the Government was all nice and caring?

Well yeah that's what they put fluoride in the water, as fluorine is a common component in antipsychotics. It helps keep the population calm, subservient and unquestioning.

That's why I only ever drink meths or my own wee.

is there a list of which water companies do flurinate the water?

I'm sure my teeth are more yellow and i've developed plaque between me teeth since moving down south. Can't be dietary as if anything that's improved.

Derek Conway: Illicit funding of his kids at university (and for being shite in the Bill)

LOL!

Brilliant! I can't take any of the other bits seriously (not that it merits it anyway), but that was proper funny. Nice one!

GrahamS; the Y2K 'Bug' din't really materialise, did it? A handful of companies, globally, had a few slight problems, but even you have to admit, the mass-hysteria was completely disprportionate. Still, Symantec et all did ok.. 😉

The fluoride in the water don't seem to be working. Not on me, anyway. 😯

My teeth are good and healthy, though.

Clearly then RudeBoy, before Porton Down was set up to create viruses in order to sell vaccines (which clearly implies Glaxo or someone secretly funds Porton Down and not the tax payer after all), no-one at all died on a regular basis from any infectious disease whatsoever, and especially not plaugue (2 sorts), TB, cholera, various flu pandemics, yellow fever, smallpox, etc. etc.

Paging Mr. Occam, will Mr. Occam please bring his razor to the front please...

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porton_Down ]

Porton Down originally opened in 1916 as the Royal Engineers Experimental Station as a site for testing chemical weapons. The laboratory's remit was to conduct research and development regarding chemical weapons agents such as chlorine, phosgene and mustard gas by the British armed forces in the First World War.

By 1918 the original two huts had become a large hutted camp with 50 officers and 1,100 other ranks. Studies in the Great War mainly concerned the dissemination of chlorine and phosgene and, later, mustard gas. By May 1917 the focus for anti-gas defence and respirator development had moved from London to Porton Down.

Only Wiki, I know, but ittul do.

It is also home to the Health Protection Agency's Centre for Emergency Preparedness and Response as well as a small science park which includes companies such as Tetricus Bioscience [3] and Ploughshare Innovations [4]

So, would they be private companies, then?

Here you go:

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I can't take any of the other bits seriously (not that it merits it anyway)

Ditto right back at yer. 8)

Yep, private companies.
Probably set up by scientists made rednundant by PHLS / HPA or CDE or who want to commercialise some of their work. Start-ups, not multinational conglomerates.

as for the millennium bug, it would have caused a load of grief if it weren't for the massive sums spent on fixing the programs at fault. or so plenty of mainframe programmers will tell you.

Honestly, there's no huge conspiracy. Perhaps lots of small ones and cover-ups of cock-ups, though.

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GrahamS; the Y2K 'Bug' din't really materialise, did it? A handful of companies, globally, had a few slight problems, but even you have to admit, the mass-hysteria was completely disprportionate. Still, Symantec et all did ok.

Yes it did materialise. Even now people will occasionally run into issues with it.
Planes didn't fall from the sky or nuclear power stations inexplicably go into meltdown as a few of the more "extreme" aspects of the media predicted might happen.
But no one in the programming community expected them too.

The real effects were far more mundane and less headline-worthy (Terror as Wrong Age Appears on Automated Forms; Empty Database Result Causes Carnage; Bill Sent for Negative Amount; Spreadsheet In Accounts Dept Stops Working: Thousands Dead)

The worst was avoided by people acting before the event. Most companies with their own legacy systems will have had to make some Y2K changes either before or since 2000.

People are already working on the [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem ]Y2K38 problem[/url] - much of this work is on Open Source systems which means you can take a look at the source code and you will see it for yourself. No one is making it up.

Are face masks "utterly useless"?

[i]I have a cousin who worked at Porton Down.[/i]

Was she in any way related to the "mate" at MOD who was in the know about helicopters over the Thames, that weren't there, or had infections up their Y2K, or something?

you know what, its really a case of 'why worry'.

nuclear weapons in the hands of crazy men, bird flu, some mad f£cker with a knife, drunken drivers, bad drivers, a million and one really nasty illnesses and lets not forget global warming, super volcanos, tsunamis and of course asteroids etc etc etc

then last sat night half the average monthly rainfall fell in one night, a normally placid stream took out a bridge up on the moors a couple of miles from here and a car load of kids coming home drove into the hole and were washed away. of four only one survived and they are still looking for the final body.

with everything that i finds to worry about, for me and my family, i would'nt have seen that coming.

Well the good news is that if Swine Flu does become a pandemic then it could kill 20-100 million people worldwide, like the [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu ]1918 Spanish flu[/url] (which is the same H1N1 strain as Swine Flu).

That would go a long way to cutting carbon emissions.

Plus, since the elderly are most at risk, it would also help out with the pensions crisis.

It's win-win really 😉

Yeah, but the Spanish Flu tended to kill off the young adults more than the very old or young, which was strange, possibly due to their stronger immune response. So bank on it hitting cyclists worse than the rest of the population.

Oooo XKCD. Another fan

nice one