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I was in NY, not too long ago, watching a big cruiseliner come in and dock - it can be a busy waterway, thank goodness it did not hit anything but the water.
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above photo from a pal in the states... pretty incredible i think.
It's good to see the plane floats as airbus designed, still quite shocking a bird can take a plane down.
they shoot frozen chickens into jet engines to test them, strange but true.
Bloody impressive landing though, must be a hell of a trick to pull off
So, is that one of these big new airbuses??
No, 320 is the commuter/puddle-jumper one. Only about 150-160 passengers.
Like this picture, looks like the plane just wanted to go for a swim
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they shoot frozen chickens into jet engines to test them, strange but true.
Surely it would be more realistic to defrost them first ❓ 😯
Its a good job its a calm river and not a choppy sea though, it could be a very different outcome.
[i]Its a good job its a calm river and not a choppy sea though[/i]
A calm river with LOADS of boats on it just waiting to pick up survivors. If ever a crash-landing could be lucky, that was it.
they shoot frozen chickens into jet engines to test them, strange but true.
[url= http://www.snopes.com/science/cannon.asp ]really?[/url]
Perhaps the pilot flies a floatplane on a Sunday...
And was dreaming of the weekend...? 😉
they shoot frozen chickens into jet engines to test them, strange but true. [\quote]I think the story (urban myth) went along the lines of that they test the cockpit window with dead chickens fired from a cannon. A test center ran out of chickens and sent someone down to purchase more. They came back and recommenced testing, only to find the chickens going straight through the window. On examination the chickens had not been defrosted first. No as bad as the test, where they loaded the cannon with a chicken, went for lunch, fired the cannon after lunch, only to find the cockpit window covered in blood, fur and guts. The theory was the a cat had climbed into the cannon was eating the chicken when... 😳
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/4250935/New-York-plane-crash-pilot-Chesley-B.-Sullenberger-III-Committed-to-air-safety.html ]You know you're safe with a pilot called Chesley B Sulleberger III![/url]
Someone buy the man a beer or hundred.
RR do fire dead birds into their engines when they desgin and test them but i think that it is turkeys that they use. Thhe test is ment to ensure that the engine will still opperate after a bird strike but it doesn't offer protection if you suck in a flok of birds as they suspect here.
They fire frozen turkeys to simulate bird strikes at 30,000 ft.
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What a fantastic bit of flying from the pilot. To get the plane down without casualties on the ground or in the plane.
I think it was announced about a week ago that internal US flights have gone a year without an incident..
Spent 24 hours at Seattle airport because of US airways, watched them try to fix the first aircraft (hydraulic problems) including a random moment when someone walked up with a big ball of blue roll to clean up whatever was leaking.. Then was put on another flight which was cancelled after a few hours wait as they had electrical problems...
"I think it was announced about a week ago that internal US flights have gone a year without an incident..
Spent 24 hours at Seattle airport because of US airways, watched them try to fix the first aircraft (hydraulic problems) including a random moment when someone walked up with a big ball of blue roll to clean up whatever was leaking.. Then was put on another flight which was cancelled after a few hours wait as they had electrical problems... "
Maybe they're really picky with little faults, and stop the flights?
[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/hudson-crash-landing-still-better-than-heathrow-200901161514/ ]Rather liked this version of events[/url]
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good job the bloke flying it was a trained glider pilot...
THREE minutes after takeoff- jeesus Im surprised it didnt just drop out of the sky 😯
Well done those two pilots 😀
I do like this photo. So Jebus reckoned he was special, did he?
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Fantastic effort from all the aircrew involved.
I always thought when going through the safety proceedure, that if the aircraft landed on water (usually the sea), there would be no chance of survival. Probably the fuselarge would snap in 2. I've been proved wrong.
That picture is amazing.
[i]if the aircraft landed on water (usually the sea), there would be no chance of survival[/i]
I think you're still right there. Had there not been loads of boats around, pre-warned, then there would probably have been a stack of casualties in this case.
I didn't realise that it's that unusual for a plane to float - they don't tell you that when they're going through the procedure of how to put your life jacket on : "In the unlikely event of the plane floating......." 😯
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Yeah anyway, as mentioned repeatedly in the media, the pilot was a real hero - had he been a lesser mortal he would have probably slipped his parachute on and bailed out. Well done him.
Hats off to the pilot.
To be faced with this emercency just after take off,take control of the aircraft,decide to attempt a landing on water,keep it level enough just to skim on the surface so that the plane didn't break up on impact,put mildly takes some doing!
Lets face it,its not a landing you can practice!
Incredible flying skills, especially when you have one shot at it.
Even more surprising is he did all that in the middle of new york and no one got more than one photo or any film of it
They fire frozen turkeys into engines because thats simulates a what a turkey would be @ 30,000ft.
I thought this was a hoax, until I realised it was actually true!
The Hudson is big and wide. Plenty of room for a crash landing. If he'd tried the East River, everyone would have been killed.
Pilot is a hero, but then, they are trained for such eventualities. Still deserves a bloody medal, though, just for having such a mental name!
Incredible flying skills, especially when you have one shot at it.
Rubbish!. He was meant to land at the airport (3) and instead he puts it in the river! Miles off target.
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More seriously, you can only be in awe of the decision making and skill that took. Ground control were saying land at the other airport. He earned his money that's for sure.
There was repeat showing on the news tonight of the plane going down in the sea off the coast of, IIRC, Ethiopia, and the plane broke up on impact, with loss of all on board. Thank God the Hudson is the width it is, it could never have been done on the Thames. The pilot deserves every award going, compare him with a footballer who's just been bought for £250 million and tell me who's worth the money.
A truly uplifting event.
Not quite so uplifting. Was this inevitable?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5804900.ece
Sad!
The pilot Chesley Sullenberger III did a fantastic job landing that plane!
One thing I noticed however - every time I get on a plane they demonstrate how to get a life jacket and put it on. On flight 1549 hardly anybody was wearing one when they got out of the plane! There were no announcements from the captain that he was going to ditch in the river until the last few seconds, but there would have been time for people to prepare for this. I still have my hat off to the pilot because nobody died and he brought the plane down in one piece - impressive. It just goes to show that with all the safety procedures in place and incessant drilling, in times of great stress, these procedures can go out the window. We are only human!
Shame on those greedy people that are thinking of sueing! They have been compensated to the tune of $5000 already. They should feel lucky to be alive the ungrateful buxxers!!
That is rather sad. I wonder at what point the boundless joy at being unexpectedly and flukishly alive gives way to the feeling that someone should pay you some money? 😯
There was a programme on Channel 4 about it the other night - it may still be available on 4OD.
Said that the engine failure/ditching procedure is designed to be followed from a height of 35000ft, not the 3500ft they were actually at when the birdstrike occured. As a result there simply wasn't enough time for the crew to run through the entire multi-page checklist, the pilot had to concentrate on telling ATC what the situation was and manually flying a very heavy glider down over one of the most densely populated areas on earth to a safe ditching. In amongst all that he just doesn't have time to explain the intricacies to the moving cargo.
More warning would have meant more time for the passengers to panic too. If I'd have been in that situation, I think that would have been the best way to do it.
I'm guessing that most of them knew that they wer going in the river at the end.
Because he didn't have time to press the ditch buttom, the aircraft wasn't sealed so started to take in water quickly, this may have hindered the putting on of life jackets, due to such little time.
Because he didn't have time to press the ditch buttom, the aircraft wasn't sealed so started to take in water quickly
I thought I heard he [i]had[/i] hit the ditch button, a feature on the A320, which meant it stayed afloat longer than it would have otherwise ...
I don't get why people think the pilot was a hero, or hugely talented.
I would hope that all pilots would try to land the aircraft in the same way, rather than give up. The fact that the aircraft came down in one piece was purely luck!
I could be wrong but to the best of my knowledge its the only time a commercial aircraft has crash landed on water and not disintegrated. He was lucky nothing more..
anotherdeadhero - MemberBecause he didn't have time to press the ditch buttom, the aircraft wasn't sealed so started to take in water quickly
I thought I heard he had hit the ditch button, a feature on the A320, which meant it stayed afloat longer than it would have otherwise ...
Nope, they didn't press it largely because - as mentioned - it was at the end of a massive checklist designed to be carried out from 35000ft, but they did it in about 3 mins from 3500ft.
It was more than luck! The pilot put the tail down first to slow the plane. This prevented the aircraft breaking up on impact. This was after he managed to swerve the George Washington suspension bridge. A skilled experience operator, but under tremndous pressure, he did very well indeed!