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Being as Konabunny likes this selective quoting lark:

I read one link, #11. It's bobbins.

No, it's not.

You would think that a program to spend “$20 million per year for 10 years to aid 10,000 minority students each year, including blacks, Arabs, Hispanics, Asians and native Americans” would be referred to somewhere other than one obscure 1979 column, but I haven’t found any other word of it.

Maybe the funding materialized, maybe it didn’t, but what’s particularly noteworthy is that this black Islamic lawyer who “for several years [had] urged the rich Arab kingdoms to cultivate stronger ties to America’s blacks by supporting black businesses and black colleges and giving financial help to disadvantaged students” was also the same lawyer who allegedly helped arrange for the entrance of Barack Obama into Harvard Law School in 1988.

That tale had surfaced in 2008 when Barack Obama was a candidate for president and [b]one of the leading black politicians in the country — Percy Sutton of New York — told an interviewer on a Manhattan TV news show that he had been introduced to Obama “by a friend who was raising money for him. The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas. He is the principal adviser to one of the world’s richest men. He told me about Obama.” [/b](2)

[b]This peculiar revelation engendered a small hubbub in 2008, but was quickly dismissed by the Obama campaign as the ditherings of a senile old man. I don’t believe President Obama himself ever denied the story personally, and no one has explained how Sutton came up with this elaborate story about Khalid al-Mansour if it had no basis in fact, and in any case al-Mansour no longer denies it. [/b](3)

Back in 2008, while actually supporting Hillary Clinton in the New York primary, Percy Sutton was interviewed on TV and said that he thought Barack Obama was nonetheless quite impressive. He also revealed that he had first heard about Obama 20 years previously in a letter where al-Mansour wrote, “there is a young man that has applied to Harvard. I know that you have a few friends up there because you used to go up there to speak. Would you please write a letter in support of him?”

Sutton concluded in the interview, “I wrote a letter of support of him to my friends at Harvard, saying to them I thought there was a genius that was going to be available and I certainly hoped they would treat him kindly.”

Until now, there really has been no context within which to understand the Sutton story or to buttress it as a reliable account other than the reputation of Sutton himself as one of the top leaders of the black community in Manhattan — himself a noted attorney, businessman and politician. But the new discovery of the 1979 column that established Khalid al-Mansour’s interest in creating a fund to give “financial help to disadvantaged students” does provide a clue that he might indeed — along with his patron, Arab Prince Alwaleed bin Talal — have taken an interest in the “genius” Barack Obama.

It also might be considered more than coincidence that the author of that 1979 newspaper column was from Chicago, where Barack Obama settled in 1986 a few years after his stint at Columbia University. It is certainly surprising that the author of that column was none other than Vernon Jarrett, the future (and later former) father-in-law of Valerie Jarrett, who ultimately became the consigliere of the Obama White House.

It is also noteworthy that Vernon Jarrett was one of the best friends and a colleague of Frank Marshall Davis, the former Chicago journalist and lifelong communist who moved to Hawaii in the late 1940s and years later befriended Stanley and Madelyn Dunham and their daughter Stanley Ann, the mother of Barack Obama. (4)

And to anyone who has the modicum of a spark of curiosity, it is surely intriguing that Frank Davis took an active role in the rearing of young Barack from the age of 10 until he turned 18 and left Hawaii for his first year of college at Occidental College in Los Angeles. (5)

It is also at least suggestive that Obama began that college education as a member of the highly international student body of Occidental College in 1979, the same year when Vernon Jarrett was touting the college aid program being funded by OPEC and possibly Prince Alwaleed. The fact that President Obama has studiously avoided releasing records of his college years is suggestive also, but has no evidentiary value in the present discussion. (6)

The nature of Vernon Jarrett’s relationship to Khalid al-Mansour is likewise uncertain, but it is very likely they had known each other as leaders of the black civil-rights movement for many years. Under his previous name of Donald Warden, al-Mansour had founded the African American Association in the Bay Area in the early 1960s. He had also helped inspire the Black Panther Party through his association with black-power leaders such as Huey Newton and Bobby Seale. Seale, of course, had a famous association with Chicago later, when he was part of the Chicago Eight charged with conspiracy and inciting to riot at the Democratic National Convention in 1968. (7)

In any case, it doesn’t matter if Vernon Jarrett and Khalid al-Mansour had a personal relationship or not. For some reason, al-Mansour had used Jarrett as the messenger to get out the word about his efforts to funnel Arab oil money to black students and minority colleges at about the same time that Barack Obama began his college career. That doesn’t mean either Jarrett or al-Mansour knew Obama at that time, but eight years later when Obama was a rising star in Chicago, a friend of Bill Ayers and Valerie Jarrett, it is much more likely that he did indeed have the assistance of very important people in his meteoric rise. The words of Percy Sutton about what al-Mansour told him regarding Obama certainly have the ring of truth

I don't believe all angles presented in the 2nd video (though it does raise some valid points beyond the 1st video), however, when you factor in the other points raised in the original post I mentioned this link in, it certainly deserves further scrutiny.

For example; why was Iran charged for involvement in 9/11, when Saudi Arabia got off scot-free, despite clear involvement? The same judge ruled on both cases.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 1:32 am
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I didn't read all that, but look at this....

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Posted : 12/12/2015 2:38 am
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Now notice the ears of Osama

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Posted : 12/12/2015 2:50 am
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The Yanks knew 9/11 was going to happen because they needed the excuse to start war.

Did you see you see the size of the hole in the Pentagon made by an aeroplane? makes you wonder there the wings went. Or why the missiles that protect that building didn't work, or why nobody was in that wing that day?


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 4:07 am
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So why would the Egyptians build an almost perfect representation of the constellation of Orion relative to the nile that represents the Milky Way, that doesn't actually align with the constellation and the Milky Way?

Makes you think.

No wait, it doesn't.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 8:48 am
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Still a suspicion that the 2001 Foot & Mouth outbreak in the UK was engineered by Whitehall. Plenty of theorists out there. Here is a summary I found via Google. Funnily enough I started typing Foot and mouth and the top auto-fill result quickly became foot & mouth conspiracy 🙂

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=140624.0


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 10:35 am
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Wow, didn't even know foot and mouth conspiracy was even a thing! what was the conspiracy trying to achieve?

edit: although that link welshfarmer...It's not the most convincing ever, that last poster admits he knew about the outbreak because he's a psychic.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 10:49 am
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Santa Claus is a Jihadist plot creation to undermine the true Christian meaning of Christmas replacing it with rampant commercialism thus damning us all to hell.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 10:51 am
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That Formula 1 is secretly controlled by octogenarian Nazi midgets


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 11:07 am
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JFK here too.

Pretty much anything that the government denies by default as our politicians are all liars.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 11:19 am
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Donald Trump is a Democratic secret agent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35066940


 
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Posted : 12/12/2015 12:19 pm
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That Formula 1 is secretly controlled by octogenarian Nazi midgets

That's not really got legs.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 12:22 pm
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Donald Trump is a Democratic secret agent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35066940
Arthur Scargill and Derek Hatton as MI5 plants is another one - does seem incredible that such a pair of useful idiots could have arisen naturally.

Both men were under close surveillence, though, with agents planted in their close circles - not too surprising.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 12:44 pm
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How do you land things on a point? You don't. You have a recess in the base of the spacecraft that is pyramid shaped (or the inverse of a pyramid) so the space craft sits over the pyramid - a bit like a cup and cone. the wide base of the pyramid spreads the weight of the craft. Saves having to have undercarriage for a craft that probably spends most of its time travelling through space.

Stargate was a movie, not a documentary. Although the filmakers did shoehorn in various conspiracy theories in to the script. Along with the pyramids being 10000-12000 years old.

And the alignment of the pyramids to the stars on Orions belt being wrong? - yes it is wrong - exactly the point. It is wrong for the time the Egyptians were supposed to have built them. Wind back the orientation of the constellation of Orion a couple of thousand years and they align. So why would the Egyptians build an almost perfect representation of the constellation of Orion relative to the nile that represents the Milky Way, that doesn't actually align with the constellation and the Milky Way? Like I said, something fishy there!

The alignment of the pyramids and the Nile to Orions Belt has never been correct. Now, then or whenever. It's just a story that someone would like to be true. It's close, but if the builders of the pyramids were aimimg to be aligned then they would have made a better job of it, considering the accuracy that they managed elsewhere.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 1:02 pm
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I think Zak Tempest might just have been Brant dressed up.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 1:52 pm
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The only real mystery surrounding the pyramids is why people still believe their origin is a mystery.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 6:06 pm
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Graham saying scientific consensus to them gets the same response as saying road tax to you

Eh, what? Is confused. Are you confusing me with someone else? Since when have I really given much of a shit about road tax, other than the same 🙄 as many others when the subject comes up.

As far as climate change is concerned, what I'm not convinced about is the whole CO2 thing; if there's an issue with levels creeping up, then stop destroying the natural means to keep it down, the forests. It appears that global temperatures have barely increased for over twenty years, there have been periods in the past with far lower global temperatures but higher CO2 levels, and vis versa, and as yet there have been no explanations for how the past five, or possibly more, ice-ages have started, or finished.
And there seem to be almost as many scientists sceptical about man-made climate change as otherwise.
I'm a sceptic. So there, get over it.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 6:52 pm
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I'm a sceptic. So there, get over it.

Which is fine, I'm over it.

What I was confused about was you saying you didn't believe in conspiracy theories, and then appearing to immediately contradict that by saying that climate change was a conspiracy theory because the climate has always changed.

And there seem to be almost as many scientists sceptical about man-made climate change as otherwise.

That is definitely NOT true (unless you believe there is a conspiracy to hide the real truth).

e.g. NASA says: [i]"Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that [b]97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree[/b]: Climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities"[/i]

-- from http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/ (where they give links to the relevant meta-studies)


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 7:06 pm
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Stargate was a movie, not a documentary. Although the filmakers did shoehorn in various conspiracy theories in to the script. Along with the pyramids being 10000-12000 years old.

Thanks for that, exactly what I was thinking, but you beat me to it. There has been [i]so[/i] much bullshit written about the pyramids and how much time it would have taken to construct them, along with the alignment; I think it was that idiot Von Daniken who maintained that it would have taken something like 100 years to build the Great Pyramid without alien help, because the blocks of stone used weighed 100 tons; actually they weighed a tenth of that, around ten tons, apparently.
At least as impressive is the construction of Avebury and it's ditch; with a smaller pool of manpower to draw on, the builders managed to move stones weighing, in two cases at least, up to 100 tones, across countryside that isn't exactly flat.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 7:10 pm
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The intervention of alien technology is responsible for our sudden leaps in technological advancement - man on the moon, space shuttles, iPhones for example and yet also the decline when it runs out / we don't find / aren't given a new bit.

Definitely the case.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 8:00 pm
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Man on the moon is a fairly clear evolution from gun powder via festival entertainment to war weapon to weapon of mass destruction to low earth orbit vehicle to lunar probe and then hybrid plane rocket so easily 1500 years of development so not a sudden leap I phones fall into a similar evolution.


 
Posted : 12/12/2015 8:17 pm
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