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Ford specify 5W-30 fully synthetic oil that meets WSS-M2C913-B
Easy enough. Halfords + £17.50 = 4ltr of Castrol Magnatec "recomended by Ford" 5W-30 A1
Hang on a minute ford specify/recomend A2 in the manual (and say A1 or A3 will cause performance/fuel consumption issues)
A1-98 Low viscosity/low friction meeting high performance extended drain requirements & complying with 2.5% improvement in fuel efficiency.
A2-96/2 Suitable for most current petrol engines requiring typically specified viscosity ranges and where fuel efficiency is not specified.
A3-98 High performance and/or extended oil drain interval and where fuel efficiency is not specified.
So A2 is average, A1 is lower friction and longer intervals, A3 is longer intervals. Why would A1 be worse than A2 if all it appears to do is give you 2.5% better economy? Most sites describe A2 as obsolete! And how can A1/A2/A3 alter the viscocity if that's the 5W30 bit.
Yours,
Confused of Berkshire
What car is it?
That Magnatec is a good deal as long as you only need 4 litres.
Otherwise try Triple QX from carpart4less.co.uk - £15.00 for 5 litres of semi synth £20 for Ford specific fully synthetic.
Not sure what Ford you have but I've always A1 in my Mondeo without a problem
Ford '06 1.6 petrol. The manual give the Ford spec, but (rather specifically) states the A2 variant
If you go on the castrol website it will tell you the right oil for your car
Buy it from a ford dealer
Buy it from a ford dealer
That's a bit like buying (holy) water from a priest, or medicine form a homeopath, it's still just water (or magnatec 5w30 A1).
A bit of googling says you can't buy magnatec A2 anymore (which backs up the obsolete comments on other sites), but doesn't explain the odd comments in the manual.
It's cheapest from the ford dealer (really) even cheaper than the halfords spec.
I pay just over £15 for 5 litres, they do a more expensive branded one, but th cheap one still meets the spec
To be frank, any old crap will do as long as you change it regularly.
the oil from the dealer will be the oil that the engine will have done all the durability testing on, and all the emissions certification on, and is also guaranteed to be the correct type.
To be frank, any old crap will do as long as you change it regularly.
Although I wouldn't go quite this far, my attitude is that as long as its a similar spec, then it should be fine. Some engine ancillary or electrical problem will write off your car long before putting in a slightly lower / higher weight oil - surely?
i put new oil in my car yesterday. Used the Castrol database. Thing is with manuals they go mtv of date when new products come onto the market. I wanted Castrol Edge 5-40 for turbo diesel. Asda was cheapest, click and collect.
To be frank, any old crap will do as long as you change it regularly.
Not if you've still got a warranty to consider.
WSS-M2C913-a was a semi synthetic, 5w30 oil .
WSS-M2C913-B was Fords spec first of the fully synthetic 5w30, used in both diesels and petrols.
Spec B has now been superceded by WSS-M2C913-C, which is fully synthetic low saps suitable for diesels with dpf's and all petrols.
I'd be looking for 5w30,WSS-M2C913-B or above for your Focus.
That Ford oil is very good stuff. I always buy Ford oil and ford oil filter and a new sump washer from the parts department at my local Dealer for my Mondeo. The prices are always decent. The viscosity is bang on for the cam followers apparently.
Cougar - Member[i][u] To be frank, any old crap will do as long as you change it regularly.[/u][/i]
Not if you've still got a warranty to consider.
On an 06 Focus 1.6 !!
oh god i really need new oil and now im just baffled. what oil for a knackerd old sprinter please?
oh and its a 9lt sump so no 4lt suggestions thanks
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On the subject of ".....any old crap will do....." some damage(?)
http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html
I believe the Ax rating gives an indication of the performance of the oil under 'stress'. So the xWxx rating is the viscosity when cold and hot and is the main number you want so that all components are lubricated fully when running normally. The Ax is how it reacts under stress such as when lubricating cams etc. A1 can be thought of as being a bit thinner under these conditions (high temperatures and loading) so friction is lower (better fuel economy), but you also have a thinner oil film (lower durability). A3 on the other Han will give you a thicker film, but higher friction.
So, an engine designed for A1 will probably use designs and materials to limit wear and probably wouldn't ever put the oil unde much stress whereas an A3 may be required in an engine that sees high loading (performance engines basically). From that, I'd say go with why is reccomended as you would with the xWxx grade - the FE gains would be minimal at best probably but you might see quite a lot more wear.
Hope that helps a bit!
Mobil have a "Which oil for my car" thing on their website. Obviously only covers Mobil oils, but it give you the full technical specs so you know what to look for in other oils.
http://www.mobil.co.uk/UK-English-LCW/carengineoils_which-oil.aspx
I think I've figured it out.
Magnatec 5W-30 A1 is also compatible with ford A/b/c (or just C seeing as it's superseding B and which superseded A) specs and meets the requirements of A5. A5 is the low viscosity of a1 + performance of A3, but not necessarily the long life (A3 being intended for long intervals) so A1 Magnatec is presumably the same as whatever they sell as A5 (unless they've an A5 which is even better again?).
Either way it's the right stuff and only £2 more than the cheep ford stuff.
Just because it's branded don't assume that it's better than the ford stuff. Ford oil is designed for ford engines. Castrol is designed for lots of engines of varying specs. I've had both diesel and petrol fords and always used Ford spec oil for the car I've had at the time and they have all ran well over 100k with no probs or noticeable wear.