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Don’t imagine the Fire Brigade will be getting it any easier either.
Our lot in North Yorkshire are actually doing about all they can and have employee reps fully involved in decisions and solutions. Thumbs up so far.
Virtually all of them would rather sell vital organs than get involved with the benefits system and their main point of contact with bureaucracy is the HMRC which may give you some idea why they have very little faith in receiving anything from the support schemes on offer.
Lumping all self employed builders together is like saying ‘All cyclists jump red lights’
Most of the ones I know are probably wishing their declared income had been a little more accurate.
Not as a name and shame of any particular company but the Insurance Industry is interesting - most of my policies come up for renewal around now and I'd normally expect a flurry of pestering calls. But instead it pretty much seems as if even my current insurers seem happy to let policies just laps without a reminder. I'll give a bit of benefit of the doubt that home working and other disruptions mean things aren't as slick as they might be but I'd hate for it to turn out companies are actively seeking to slough off polices and leave customers uninsured.
This is all very noble and it'd be great to able to avoid all these companies, but I still don't see it as a good thing if these companies fold leaving many thousands of people unemployed. Not sure I'd see that as much of a victory.
Scroll up @choppersquad, you'll see the oh-so-wise answers to my querying of the same thing. ****ing dreaming if you ask me.
Scroll up @choppersquad, you’ll see the oh-so-wise answers to my querying of the same thing. **** dreaming if you ask me.
Do you have a better proposal for encouraging these companies to improve their employment practices, or will you keep kidding yourself that nothing can be done about it?
Boycotting businesses with poor ethics will be beneficial for employees in the long run.
I will never enter a Wetherspoons or Sports Direct again.
We need to support good independent pubs and shops where possible.
hmrc. 😆
Ferrero Rocher made my son redundant this afternoon 🙁
Add virgin media to the list; telling their installers they're providing an essential service by keeping people entertained and informed.
More corporate bollocks.
Make do with terrestrial and freesat.
Installations necessitate working inside homes.
Aldi have given all of their staff a 10% bonus to acknowledge how hard they are all working during this crisis
Tesco are doing the same, extra 10% on their wages right now.
Most of the ones I know are probably wishing their declared income had been a little more accurate.
This had crossed my mind!!
TomD - I am much more cynical that you. The likes of Ashley were in the first case thinking about their money and only their money and pushed into doing the right thing by the power of social media
anything else that benefits the Chinese State
I think we've always known what a dodgy bunch of ****s the Chinese government are (Tiananmen square etc) but I still can't get my head around the doctor that warned about this virus being arrested and silenced.
I wonder how many lives that cost 🙁
Amazon.
Wasn't much of a customer beforehand. Now that they've set up the relief fund for staff sick pay and inviting the public to donate, they'll be even less likely to see a penny from me.
Jhoots Pharmacies.
£20 for Calpol.
£5 for 16 unbranded paracetamol.
Forcing Community Nurses to wait hours in-line for prescriptions for vulnerable patients.
I think they might be just a Midlands chain but many people swearing never to use them again.
I was going to add Cirque du Soleil to the list. They immediately dumped nearly all their staff and aren't that quick at refunding ticket money to punters.
But it looks like they might be bankrupt soon anyway.
Oops
Vodafone , removing Turkey from free roaming and charging £6 per day instead.from May
Not great if you are stuck in Turkey
Evans Cycles too then?
Yes, for putting the prices of turbo trainer sup to well above RRP. Ok it's not an essential item, but still shitty practice.
So this boycotting will effect the multi-millionaire owners of the companies and not the lowly workers who need the jobs, right? Cool, I’m in.
Well, yes. It may actually do them some good.
Imagine you're Lacky #569845 at a Sports Direct store on a zero hours contract and people stop buying their cheap lonsdale boxer shorts form Sports Direct. Sure your out of a job, but you can go get another as Drone #458 wherever people go to get their sweatshop manufactured athliesure wear. Now Mike has been hit in the pocket he has to both improve conditions for his staff.
The number of boxer shorts sold doesn't change when you don't buy them at SD. Or bike parts if you don't shop at Evans. The staff just go work somewhere else that sells them.
It's not like boycotting a country where the population is mostly stuck there and dependant on foreign money.
Most of the ones I know are probably wishing their declared income had been a little more accurate.
It did occur me with all the "support ltd co directors" stuff doing the rounds. If you've paid yourself minimum wage and a massive dividend for the past however long to avoid paying tax and national insurance, then can you really come cap in hand with a straight face when HMRC only pays out at 80% of that "tax efficient not tax evasion" figure.
Add virgin media to the list; telling their installers they’re providing an essential service by keeping people entertained and informed.
More corporate bollocks.
Make do with terrestrial and freesat.
Installations necessitate working inside homes.
If there's one good thing that comes from this mess it should be the classification of broadband as an essential utility on par with water gas and electric.
Ferrero Rocher made my son redundant this afternoon 🙁
That's a shame, which country is he the ambassador for?
Can we add DFDS to this list? I was supposed to be sailing over to Newcastle for a week back in Scotland with the family, but their sailings are on hold until after we were supposed to go. Got an email saying that they were offering free cancellations or rescheduling, and given we have no idea when this'll be over I opted to cancel. Turns out free cancellations actually means they'll waive the normal cancellation fee, and that they'll keep your deposit and still expect you to pay another 130€. Furious doesn't even begin to cover it!
@misteralz If DFDS were unable to provide the service booked then you have a right to all your money back. In effect they cancelled a scheduled sailing, it's not on hold it's cancelled. You may need legal advice.
I can see the other side that money is required to keep the business solvent but the customer has the right to their money back if the service can not be provided.
Right? A lost deposit I could stomach, but cancelling the sailing and then asking for more money from us feels like exceptional pisstaking.
Just got off live chat with them. They've cancelled the booking with no further cost but won't refund my deposit, rather they'll take it off the cost off the next sailing I do, as long as I book it before the end of the year and the sailing itself is before the end of June next year. Given I don't have any other plans to go over again, I guess that's the equivalent of a lost deposit...
Is the deposit over £100? On a credit card? Go all section 75 on them.
170€, off our current account. Going to leave it as mrsalz still wants to go back to Scotland to visit after all this so she's clinging to the fact that we've still got a deposit on a potential sailing to get her through. I'm still unimpressed, mind...
Jhoots Pharmacies.
£20 for Calpol.
£5 for 16 unbranded paracetamol.
Forcing Community Nurses to wait hours in-line for prescriptions for vulnerable patients.
Is this genuine? Do you have a source? I've heard of a few people profiteering but not companies, they deserve a massive fine.
Wife has just come off the phone to her employer. She has a few days of her notice left. The employer she was going to has furloughed their staff.
Her current employer, who promote themselves on how they look after their people, has refused to let her withdrawal her notice. They are just about to furlough a large proportion of their 2000 staff but they wouldn't let her furlough through them despite 14 years service and no cost to them.
Is that worthy of a name and shame?
@Thebrick, it was all over the news either last week or the week before.
Wife has just come off the phone to her employer. She has a few days of her notice left. The employer she was going to has furloughed their staff.
Her current employer, who promote themselves on how they look after their people, has refused to let her withdrawal her notice. They are just about to furlough a large proportion of their 2000 staff but they wouldn’t let her furlough through them despite 14 years service and no cost to them.
Is that worthy of a name and shame?
Assume shes on 12 weeks notice with 14 years employment. If they "rehire" her they have to go through all that again, at a cost to them.
Can the new company not hire and immediately furlough her (at no cost to them)? Given its them that have given her an offer of employment, which they hopefully will still be keen on* once we are all back to work.
*Industry dependent I guess
Nope, rules for furlough are that you need to be employed as of 28th February. She's not asking to be rehired by the current employer, she's asking to not leave. She's still employed there at this moment.
we probably won't be avoiding them but aldi have been running special buy ad for garden furniture !!!! Probably quite a few garden centers spitting feathers!
Premier League football clubs?
Not Burnley!
Paying all non-playing staff, including matchday casual workers.
Matt
Makes a change for Burnley from a couple of years ago then when the support staff were being regularly ignored.
Bond Turner Solicitors - 400 staff sat far closer than 2m and when the sister of any employee said this on Twitter they immediately sacked her brother.
Rico Back CEO @ Royal Mail...
Postal workers were told this afternoon that it is business as usual including delivery of junk mail and that PPE in no longer essential and regularly washing your hands will be enough.
Wife has just come off the phone to her employer. She has a few days of her notice left. The employer she was going to has furloughed their staff.
Her current employer, who promote themselves on how they look after their people, has refused to let her withdrawal her notice. They are just about to furlough a large proportion of their 2000 staff but they wouldn’t let her furlough through them despite 14 years service and no cost to them.
Interesting - I have the opposite situation as a manager. Employee handed notice in at end of Feb and was due to leave yesterday to take up an overseas contract. Due to travel she now can't. We've offered a few extra days of contract work to finalise some handover stuff that got sidelined while we were shutting down our site but she now wants to extend her leaving date.
We're keeping all our staff on, but due to not being able to access site there is limited invoiceable work that can be done, it's mainly writing up reports and the like on technical work that's been done. If I let her stay on we can't invoice any more, but I get additional cost.
She was happy to hand notice in and leave me struggling to recruit another person to do the technical work, the training involved, etc., so she could follow her ambition. I'm sorry that this has rebounded leaving her with limited income, but it's not my problem her new contract is being delayed until she can physically start work.
If they withdrew their notice I might be able to compromise on the extra wages for the long term benefit but I also suspect she'd then hand it in again once this is done.
Am I a git for not extending the leave date? Any way that I can legally hold someone in a job for a longer period (in real life I mean - I could request a 6mo notice but then they could effectively get themselves fired and leave anyway)
Am I allowed to put an entire industry into room 101 through thin anecdotal evidence? If so the building trade - more specifically the small family run hypocrites of the breed.
Entertaining fly on the wall yesterday evening with Mrs C's friends over Zoom. One just layed off by employer rather than furloughed, another in week three of opening a shop both understandably stressed. But another who's husband and sons are in the trade was 'very concerned' at the unfair government offer for the self employed. Apparently only compensating the declared profit rather than their real earnings when everyone knows it's higher is totally unfair and leaving them in a hell of a mess. Her husband and sons were 'very clever' and their skill at not putting money through the books should not see them disadvantaged now. When quizzed by the others about why should the public purse bail them out when they have gone out of their way to evade tax for years they were met with 'you are all so naive' and 'this is how everyone in the trade does it'.
Later in the conversation same woman was complaining about lack of preparedness of NHS and how underfunding of the NHS was a national disgrace without a hint of irony.
Am I a git for not extending the leave date?
Yep, I'd say so. And so does Martin Lewis -
Me too. Not to be judgemental and all that, but everyone needs all the help they can get right now.
To deny, or allow, someone's livelihood support is your responsibility - not ours 🙂
Really?
They were leaving without worrying about the impact on us
There's no valuable work for them to do (everything they can do can be done by others; no-one has enough to fill their time properly)
As soon as flights open up again, they will want to leave to start their new contract
We are a business that is treating our employees reasonably but we are not a charity. There's 4 in this team (now 3) and paying someone that can't do any valuable work to read around the subject and develop their skill set so they can then go elsewhere and use it, and by doing so ultimately compromise the sustainability of the others in the group.....