MegaSack DRAW - This year's winner is user - rgwb
We will be in touch
I don't have any of the desirable or essential skills you require however I still wish to be considered for this role.
I'll send you my resume once my mum has finished typing it for me (sorry, i'm rubbish with computers)
When can you start?
🙂
I'll consult my filofax and let you know.
What's the private schooling like in Todmorden? 🙂
One of these days they'll need a geotechnical engineer, one of these days...
I'll give it a bash.....
what was the job again?... something to do with bikes and coffee?
That's a rather rude and unfortunate acronym on the end. 😯
Able to make tea/coffee,
Has an understanding of how to fix a puncture,
Able to answer the phone and repeat simple messages without swearing,
Good at Spelin,
Knows the difference betweeen a mountain and road bike,
Vote labour and is a comited socialist supporter,
Has numerous social problems,
We need someone to join our small team of tech experts to help continue our award winning digital publishing development in web and app technologies. You will need to be able to tick off all of the Essential and some of the Desirable skills in the lists above. An interest in riding bikes is not essential but it would make your life more fun if you did.
Yep i fill most of those points, whats the relocation package, traveling expenses, company vehicle,laptop,mobile phone,etc etc.
Flat available @ STW towers, sudden 'vacancy' advertised...
Who's been murdded?
There's a flat above us for £595/month. Includes free wifi since you will have access to the office network 🙂
I can do all of that stuff - but can I stay in Glasgow building bikes at the same time?
You can commute from wherever you want Ben 🙂
There's a flat above us for £595/month.
That's 40% of your take home on rent!
Before council tax!
If the extras are another two lots of £23k, I'm in.
Does it include an Audi company car?
I'm a bit worried by the [i]"and extras"[/i].
Who is offering these extras?
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we love you long time
That's 40% of your take home on rent!
Cheaper properties are available in Todmorden. You don't have to rent the one above our offices 😉
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION%5E1346&sortType=1&maxPrice=400&minBedrooms=0&googleAnalyticsChannel=renting
Experience with BB press.... push fit bottom brackets?
That's 40% of your take home on rent!Before council tax!
Welcome to the UK!
Of course, you're always free to go and live off the land.
Oh, hang on...
Chipps is a sheep farmer now as it happens. No really!
Ability to multitask with flexible priorities
Aka popping into the office on a Sunday to feed the hamsters.
[quote=patricksingletrack ]Cheaper properties are available in Todmorden. You don't have to rent the one above our offices
Ah, but if you live in the flat above the offices, does it count as being in the office if you work from bed in your jim jams?
Chipps is a sheep farmer now as it happens. No really!
What, like Piers?
If the extras are another two lots of £23k, I'm in.
Well to get a decent -ish I do think you need to be offering nearer £30k.
That would make you pretty much the best paid Singletrack staffer 🙂
We have other ways of making life nice for our staffers tho 🙂
Well to get a decent -ish I do think you need to be offering nearer £30k.
Up in't North?
Not sure about that.
I try telling that to my employees. They still want the ££££££s though 😕
Up in't North?Not sure about that.
I am.
http://www.orchard.co.uk/Jobs/North-West/PHP-Developer-4762.aspx
http://www.orchard.co.uk/Jobs/Yorkshire/Snr-PHP-Web-Developer-4812.aspx
http://www.orchard.co.uk/Jobs/Yorkshire/PHP-Developer-City-Centre-4852.aspx
http://www.orchard.co.uk/Jobs/North-West/PHP-Developer-4853.aspx
They pay what they can afford is my guess. No point in paying £30k if you can't afford to do it.
John, be realistic, the salary is just a bonus if you're a MTBer.
Plenty enough to live on, a [b]very[/b] nice flat if you want, in a great location and working for STW??
It's a bloody belting job for many folk.
EDIT: ..and the jobs you've posted are a bit pish too; either starting at £18k or asking for experience that Mark's vacancy isn't.
I try telling that to my employees. They still want the ££££££s though
News flash, Employess in "moaning about not getting paid enough" Shocker !
@bear - One job starts at £18k (and they won't get someone with the experience they are asking for at that salary - not a hope). Others are £30k, thereabout or much higher aren't they?
And really? Do you think that a low salary is fair exchange for working in an office coding a website that just happens to be about bikes?
Sorry, just being realistic - I reckon the majority would rather earn £30k in a great creative agency than £23k working in-house (irrespective of whether the job is in the bike industry). After all, most people want to earn £££ and get the best experience they can along the way.
I'm guessing you won't be applying then John.
Hah no. I couldn't do the job anyway. I just employ people that do that sort of stuff.
Me too 🙂
Badly, it seems. (-:
After all, most people want to earn £££ and get the best experience they can along the way.
No they don't. They want to enjoy as much of their waking hours as possible, for which a half decent salary is part of, and this provides a half decent salary. As I said, if you're an MTBer with the required skills, this is an [b]amazing[/b] job.
Agency work can go swivel for an extra few quid a day!
(Not being personally derogatory btw, you're just viewing this from totally the wrong angle)
No they don't. They want to enjoy as much of their waking hours as possible. As I said, if you're an MTBer with the required skills, this is an amazing job.
If you say so. 😕
Ohh, and in my days as a print designer (working on mags for a time) I wanted to work for a Mountain Bike magazine - it was my 'dream' job. But when the opportunities came up, the salaries were lower than I was already on so I made the decision to stay working within creative agencies.
Only speaking from my experience, but it is my experience, and a very direct one.
Some people aren't driven by money alone.
John, you're missing the point, and it shows by the fact when you had the opportunity, you went for the £££.
What did that get you? A slighter nicer coffee machine, a nicer car on lease, a mildly bigger living room?
Meh, I'd take the job that indulged my childhood passion.
Edit: I'm not looking for an argument btw to derail this thread, I'm just defending the one you started!
We aren't. This is a fun way to spend your life 🙂
One staff member reached a target yesterday and earned an iPad. There's other ways of enjoying your job than what turns up in your pay packet.
I am not missing any point, I am saying that working in an office on a computer doing PHP is working in an office on a computer doing PHP. Many people (myself included) may decide that the job being related to a hobby wouldn't be enough to convince me to take a lower salary than I could get elsewhere - and one where the overall work experience would probably benefit more in the long run.
Now if the job was as a chief trail tester or something...
Leaving the bickering aside*, I have no idea whether the salary is or is not fair for the skills required.
But what I do know is that here's a small business in a sector we all love, which is GROWING. Brilliant stuff. High fives all round the Singletrack team.
[Returns to corporate greasy pole climbing, still at my desk at 7.45pm. For more money. Did I win?]
*Will some of you just give it a flipping rest?!
I am saying that working in an office on a computer doing PHP is working in an office on a computer doing PHP
That's agency work you're describing there 😉
Many people (myself included) may decide that the job being related to a hobby wouldn't be enough to convince me to take a lower salary than I could get elsewhere
You need to mix with different people!
Leaving the bickering aside
Oh crap, am I bickering? Sorry. Will leave alone now!
I am saying that working in an office on a computer doing PHP is working in an office on a computer doing PHP
That's certainly not on offer here
Would I have to ride 29ers?
Only if you really want to
I'm a PHP developer working with a creative agency in the north, and I'd say 23k is a fairly standard rate for seasoned devs. I'd have my application in if I was closer.
I suspect that for some people the following might help in the work life balance equation...
"we'll pay you 23K but the downstairs shed is full of modern shiny things that on occasion we'd like you to take for spin and let us know what you think"
Where are you?
I'm about 100 miles north, Mark. Bit of a long commute!
Mark - would you take freelance help short term?
I'm only up the road in Fax and have some time on my hands - wouldn't say no to some time at STW.
£23k sounds about right for a graduates' second job after Uni (once they have some real-world experience under their belt)
STW are in the fortunate position by which they use a VERY popular software platform - so the skill set required is very widely available. They don't teach Wordpress in Uni - it's strictly a self-taught platform.
It's not like they need a FORTRAN developer.
Combined with a (what appears to be....) friendly work environment, and the opportunity (no doubt!) to contribute opinions on the latest test gear ("Here, take this for a ride at the weekend, and tell us what you think"), sounds ideal for a young single male/female who loves bikes.
Good luck Mark et al. in finding a developer!
I'm keeping an eye out for ESL teacher needed.
I keep telling my wife that if we stop living in our Asian paradise and move into the little flat above ST towers, eventually they'll give me a job...
Some people aren't driven by money alone.
Yep, they tend to be the happier ones!
Combined with a (what appears to be....[b]endless free bike kit[/b])
When are you going to advertise for a Finance Director / accountant, that's what I need to know?????
If I was at the place I was in my life 11 years ago, I'd have jumped at his job. As it was, I took a £14k per year job straight out of my IT MSc, where used PHP for my thesis on building a MTB Trails website.
I'm a physics teacher now. Can't see why [i]anyone[/i] would leave that to work at ST 😉
*looks to see how quickly he can learn PHP and sell current house then remembers he has a wife, 2 kids and a baby on the way*
I'm out 🙁
I'm a physics teacher now. Can't see why anyone would leave that to work at ST
That would be madness 🙂
Eh I'm straight (ish) out of a CS degree, but started a PhD 1.5 years ago.
If this had come up a year ago I'd rip your arm off 🙂 . I'm a bit stuck doing this now though.
Good luck finding someone.
By the way... PHP?? C'mon I thought you guys were cool! I expected at least Ruby behind there somewhere. All the hip young things I know are moving towards Scala or Clojure for extra cool points as well 🙂 .
[b]chambord[/b] perhaps STW need a developer to contract out small tasks until the permanent position is filled?
Always worth asking...
Mark - would you take freelance help short term?
That depends on many things but not out of the question. Ultimately the amount of developer work we need now and are planning in the future means we need a full time addition to the staff but we do have a backlog of projects.
By the way... PHP?? C'mon I thought you guys were cool! I expected at least Ruby behind there somewhere.
Really makes the Rails come alive.
Really makes the Rails come alive.
Ha ha, very good!
If I was in my twenties, with no wife and no kids, and still programmed, I would up sticks and move from Newcastle for this job, as long as i could open the boxes....
If only I wasn't an asp.net developer 🙁 although I do have some php experience having to bludgeon moodle into working the way i want
27orangeninjas - I wouldn't necessarily let that exclude you. The PHP we need doing is advanced for a primarily Front-End Developer as I am, but it's probably not particularly taxing for a trained programmer.
This is all very well, and I am chuffed that STW staff keep growing, but does the PHP fu have anything to do with Fresh Goods?
It's Friday, look at the time!!!
Really makes the Rails come alive.
Nicely done. Can't beat an ultimately pointless "What language for X?", "What tyres for X?", "What wheel size for X?" debate.
xiphon, I've got plenty to do at the moment with my current work. Looks like a brilliant position for someone out there thouggh.
Like Peter above I too have no idea what all that gibberish is about in the job spec, but can I have the job too? Perhaps we can alternate?
Someone above mentioned Fortran.....now we did touch on that for a while on my degree....does that help? Plus I ride a singlespeed.
Still very interested to see how long it takes to fill this position.,.
<?php
print "Hello World!\n";
?>
Am I in ?
allthepies: May take a little more than that 😉
Thats whats google is for though 🙂
I can do COBOL and hold my own (ooh-er) in SQL is that any use?
Oh, and BASIC
10 PRINT "Simon is cool!"
20 GOTO 10
Yeah baby, still got it.
[code]10 PRINT "Simon is cool!";
20 GOTO 10[/code]
Is much better.
My masters thesis was "Producing an interactive database-driven website of mountain bike trails with PHP and MySQL, using an object-oriented web engineering approach" 🙂
[i]10 PRINT "Simon is cool!";
20 GOTO 10
Is much better. [/i]
Yeah, but I didn't want to show off 🙂