[Closed] Cigarettes

Hoping to quit or at least cut down this year.

I never really understood this thought process. 4 a day and you're "hoping" to cut down?

I had the same internal dialogue with myself about drinking a while back, the sure fire way to cut down is to just stop buying the things then you can't be tempted to "just have one" because you haven't got any.

I just quit. End of. Lots of chewing gum helps. Normal, not that nicotine rubbish.

Drac how do i change my email. that one went to the wifes email as i did not have my own when i joined.

It's a bit buggy but you change it account seeings, of that doesn't work email the tech chaps and they will help.

tech@singletrackworld.com

thanks

Always seems like a particularily crap addiction. Not a very good high, hugely addictive, very damaging, not even cheap or socially acceptable... Might as well stick to coke

If only people were more rational in their addiction decisions

I wish I'd made the same assessment before becoming addicted to carbon fibre and internet forums tbh

20No6 @ 19p or 1/2oz old Holborn 18p and a packet of Rizlas 1p.
I gave up a few years back;-)

Is carbon fibre an addiction or a habit.

Used to work in a Pharma business and was told by some bloke in a white coat that nicotine is significantly more addictive than heroin or cocaine when tested in clinical trials (that must have been an interesting clinical trial) yet the high is significantly lower? Worked for Rothmans for a while as well and all employees got cheap fags!

You could try helping yourself instead of expecting the government to do something.

It's exactly what they shouldn't do as the market would just go underground.

Check me out, gobbling off to two mods in one post 😀

But we'd end up paying to treat people for smoking related diseases without the tax raised by their causing it in the first place.

Check me out, gobbling off to two mods in one post

It's a careful balancing act, as is the guvmint's job in balancing how much they want people dying a bit earlier from tabbing versus the tax they raise.

Smoking is a ridiculous addiction.. It's a crap stinking hit that's almost guaranteed to give you a chronic degenerative illness. It's going to make you very ill and knock years off your life.
Explain to me again why you smoke?

Smoking is a ridiculous addiction.. It's a crap stinking hit that's almost guaranteed to give you a chronic degenerative illness. It's going to make you very ill and knock years off your life.

That's a remarkable new insight. Have you considered applying to be a special advisor on health policy? They could really use your skills.

Explain to me again why you smoke?

Because I'm addicted. (I don't smoke by the way, but I did once upon a time.)

But we'd end up paying to treat people for smoking related diseases without the tax raised by their causing it in the first place.

If people want to smoke, they'll find the money just like heroin addicts and alcoholics do.

So it's best to keep them inside the taxation circle isn't it?

As would any measure that tried to reduce the number of smokers.

Then we'd pay less for treating them, wouldn't we?

So it's best to keep them inside the taxation circle isn't it?

Then we'd pay less for treating them, wouldn't we?

let's not pretend that the high taxation is a method of reducing the number of smokers

It's discouraged some, certainly. Whether that's intentional or not I don't know, I suspect the main reason is "because we can." Luxuries should attract the highest taxation really.

" Luxuries should attract the highest taxation really.

So tax is more important than health?

Yeah, course it is... 😆

(Not really of course...I have no idea, it's a discussion that could run and run...)

Family Darcy is all good...how about family wrecker?

Cougar - Moderator
Luxuries should attract the highest taxation really.

Why?

Family Darcy is all good...how about family wrecker?

I find nothing motivates me more to want to pack in than some sanctimonious, self-righteous, condescending, patronising lifestyle guru, from the Ivory tower of their perfect world, with all their perfect lifestyle choices, stating the obvious.

For the record, I wrapped 3 months ago after 20 years. I am using ecigs but have reduced the nicotine content down to 0.6%. I've previously tried pretty much every aid known. Patches, gum, spray, tablets from the docs. I have never tried anything so effective. It's a temporary thing; I have a plan to drop them in a few months after further reducing the nic content.

The amount of people I saw outside the main entrance of the local hospital (many in wheelchairs) in their pyjamas in January smoking was quite shocking.

If your a smoker your still a smoker whether your in hospital, a wheelchair or whatever 🙁

I find nothing motivates me more to want to pack in than some sanctimonious, self-righteous, condescending, patronising lifestyle guru, from the Ivory tower of their perfect world, with all their perfect lifestyle choices, stating the obvious.

Way up here on our high horses most of stw cant smoke even if they wanted.. The wind blows out the matches when trying to light up

Wrecker if you are sending out pics of you baby making then copy me in 😉

Luxuries should attract the highest taxation really.
Why?

OH tough one this- warning wild stab in the dark - is it because they are not required to stay alive and are optional purchases and /or indulgences that only wealth can enable?

Binners I am available for hire if you need 1-1 "support"

Wrecker if you are sending out pics of you baby making then copy me in

I smoked rollies for years. There was therefore never a financial motivation for giving up.

Then I took up cycling - that was pretty good for making me realise what a daft habit it was. So I read the Allen Carr book and haven't smoked since. Not a single cigarette in three years.

Pretty sure I have a copy of the Alan Carr book. If anyone wants it, let me know and I'll send it on.

4 a day is due to work to not being able to during work hours. If I'm kept busy I don't smoke. Again when on a the bike I won't smoke. But I do enjoy two cigs and a brew first thing.

Smoke follies so £50 a month max. Less than some people spend on a night out on the booze.

When I was in the Navy (US) in the 65-68 time frame, we were able to buy brand-name, sea-store cigarettes from the ships commissary for $1.00 a carton or 10 cents a pack. No wonder almost everyone on the ship smoked.

10 years on and I still have the odd dream about smoking, and wake up thinking I am again. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take much more than a pack to rescratch those demons.

That might just be my personality though, as I dream about other previous vices and I know that road can be so easily traveled again.

Tax Organic and non GM food then?
Let's be honest, smoking is most popular amongst those who can least afford them. It's very a regressive tax IMHO.

Keep the basics tax free and ramp it up for 2 seater sports cars I say. Do we want to ban smoking? People would carry on illegally right - as many do now. So high tax helps stop people starting along with campaigns, reducing the places where it's allowed and minimising the marketing that cigarette companies can do. I think we're doing pretty well on this really but there are always some who'll be attracted to narcotics and then get addicted, no free state can stop that.

Soooo, we should ban cigarettes ? Seems a backward step, when decriminalising and regulating (and even taxing) illegal drugs is seen as progress. Has anybody asked Russell Brand about this ?

The adverts are terrifying.

Linking the tax issue to ability to pay is a red herring, hence question to cougar about why luxuries should have the [u]highest[/u] taxes. We tax cigarettes and the like because they have negative social costs that extend well beyond the cost of the fags themselves.

Asking people to pay (more) for the full social (negative) costs of an activity like smoking is morally more supportable than asking people to pay more simple because it is more expensive. The latter, falls into that other well-known category...

The reruns of the health videos with the mutations at the moment is also a good idea IMO

Good luck to anyone trying to give up BTW

Linking the tax issue to ability to pay is a red herring,

It's Alec Salmond's fault isn't it?

I think it's your fault, DD.

I accept full responsibility. 🙁