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That M113 ACAV is a good build, my mate will be interested in that, I think, although he’s more int WW2-era, and the slightly more obscure stuff at that - rare Japanese, French and Italian tanks, for example.
I’ll send him the link to this page, he does lots of intricate detail work, adding extra Jerry cans, strapping, weathering and anything else, and spends ages researching correct paint colours as well, the construction photos I’m sure he’ll like to see.
and spends ages researching correct paint colours as well,
I (think I) read about 'scale colouring' some years ago, something to do with the size of an object (a scale model) reflecting different levels of light.
IE a 1/72nd scale aircraft painted in barley grey would reflect less light than a full size one, so the model would look darker than the full size one.
Please tell me I'm not talking bollox & that I imagined the whole thing. 😕
That kind of makes sense. But also how often do you look at your scale models in true daylight I.e. outside? And how often do you look at the full size object indoors (unless you happen to have access to your local hangar / tank museum)
Nice Gannet Harry
Nice Gannet Harry
Thanks, but I've had such a massive falling out with it that it was bundled off to my lad's bookcase before the varnish had dried. Hateful bloody thing.
I've jumped straight on to the next one as it will be my first air brush build. I've done the cockpit with a brush though.
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That kind of makes sense. But also how often do you look at your scale models in true daylight I.e. outside? And how often do you look at the full size object indoors (unless you happen to have access to your local hangar / tank museum)
Well I certainly wouldn't, & you certainly wouldn't, but there'll be some geek somewhere that would!
That Gannet turned out ok Harry but I know what you mean about hating a kit. You get to a point where your'e saying to yourself, 'get in the bin!' (not yourself obs) Or want to whack it with a hammer.
I've certainly seen information about lightening paint colours according to a model's scale, though I've never done it myself. I recall that while in practice paints generally get lightened, technically the idea is that scale colours tend towards a pale grey, rather than to white.
Progress.
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Spray painting this weekend if all goes to plan.
6 Sqn, The Flying Can Openers.
Don’t forget to mask off the canopy first. I use Tamiya masking tape. Palest colour first
Jaguar and Hawk "test pig" primed.
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I do like Jaguars.
Is there a missing step inbetween those photos where you masked the Hawk's canopy? Also for what is the Hawk a test mule?
I may actually have something to post on this thread in the next week... prepare to be underwhelmed!
Is there a missing step inbetween those photos where you masked the Hawk's canopy? Also for what is the Hawk a test mule?
A) Nah. Couldn't be arsed.
B) Testing my spraying before committing to the Jaguar.
The Hawk will be the test for all future painting until it becomes the size of a real Hawk.
Have you fitted the weapons pylons already? Are there any underwing decals to do?
I tend to leave off the hardpoints on fast jets until i’ve done the decals and clear top coat, whether Matt or gloss
I've an old 1/48 Airfix Lightning that I've dusted off for a refurb, I've successfully removed the paint and have reassembled but the underside of the leading edge of the wing is proving to be difficult. I've had to fill and sand so many times that the fine detail has been lost.
Does anyone have any tips for rescribing the panel lines and how I might go about replicating the rivet details?
Have you fitted the weapons pylons already? Are there any underwing decals to do?
Argh... I know what you mean.
From memory there isn't much in the way of markings, so I may have got away with it.
Just had a quick look. There are no decals that go under the pylons.
Spray painting this weekend if all goes to plan.
How did the spray painting go - have you done more than the primer? Hope you are getting on ok with the airbrush!
PJM1974 - Member
Does anyone have any tips for rescribing the panel lines and how I might go about replicating the rivet details?
Old style Dymo tape is flexible enough to conform to wings and the like but thick enough to act as a useful ruler for a scribing tool. I use a Tamiya scribing tool that is easier to use than a pin or other sharp point for rescribing panel lines, provided you don't have to use it in a constrained space.
Can't help you with the rivet details, though.
You can buy a rivet roller and a panel line tool.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trumpeter-TSM-9910-Rivet-Maker/dp/B001JJZ2FE
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tamiya-74091-700-300074091-Plastic-Scriber/dp/B002KKBVTC
Does anyone have any tips for rescribing the panel lines and how I might go about replicating the rivet details?
Snap the tip off of a Swann Morton scalpel blade (wear goggles!) and then use the back of the blade to score the line, the square back where it's been snapped off leaves a nice groove.
As above use Dymo tape as a guide.
Rivets I don't worry about as any you recreate in 1/72 will be very oversized. You can use a dressmakers/tailors tool called a 'ponce wheel' which is similar to the model shop things but a lot cheaper.
First go with the airbrush. I think I was holding it too far away as the finish is very matt. Not a problem with this one as it will be "dirty", but I need to practise before I try anything "clean".
Panel lines done with a 2H pencil.
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Free Airfix Spitfire with the Mail today... (I'm desperately hoping it only comes with Polish markings).
I'll give that a miss.
I think what has happened here Harry, is the paint has dried before it’s hit the model. You can get inhibitors that slow the paint drying, or you can use a thinner paint, closer in, with less pressure. I run at 10psi from about 6in for flood coverage, 5psi for a ‘mud mist’ or for exhaust & gunfire stains. Mix of Tamiya & Revell acrylic paints thinned with Tamiya X20A thinners.
Sometimes I do camouflage free hand, but I’m just in the middle of a Tamiya 1/48 Spitfire MkI build where I’ve used a mix of paper masks and Tamiya masking tape cut to shape. I have tried masking camouflage patterns with Humbrol Maskol, but that tends to leave a ragged edge when you peel it off. Nearly all my aircraft builds are 1/48 unless it means a humongous finished article... military models I like in 1/48 & 1/35. I can’t be doing with 1/72 (or 1/76), the parts are too small for my sausage fingers
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Photo is crap though.
Nice
The shadow makes it look a bit fat.
I like Jaguars, ergo I like that. Nice work!
Ta. I need to get a better picture.
some constructive criticism?
I know it's an unfashionable view at the minute, (and I know that personal views are always subjective) but I'm not a fan of overly weathered 72nd scale kits. I think it's fine for some of the larger scales like 48th but it can look a bit overdone on smaller planes, especially panel lines.
look at this photo
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this is a MkIX in 1942, note how it is't that dirty..(ok, it has just rained 😆 ) and you can barely see some of the fainter panel lines. the exhaust and gun staining is barely visible.
I guess it depends what you're aiming for, and weathering is fun, but when I competed I was always marked down for it.
That Trumpeter riveting tool usually sells for under a fiver, but there's classic Amazon markup there. I'll try the dressmaking tool tip though.
Re camouflage, I also used paper masks on my Tamiya Spitfire Mk1, it turned out really very well. I also use the tried and trusted Blu-Tack technique for marking out camouflage patterns, all you do is to paint the base camouflage colour in the lightest shade (either dark earth or grey) then bend lengths of Blu-Tack to an approximate shape and attach, before painting the dark green.
Project Lightning is coming along okay, everything has been sanded and rescribed, but late Lightnings were finished in a satin grey shade, which looks terrible if you try and pre-post shade. I'm keeping any shading to a very subtle level and once painted, I'll give it a gloss coat, a pin wash and a coat of satin varnish.
Check this out!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-cornwall-42750033/ark-royal-model-started-in-1992-is-ready
Better photos of the Jaguar and Gannet.
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nickc - MemberI know it's an unfashionable view at the minute, (and I know that personal views are always subjective) but I'm not a fan of overly weathered 72nd scale kits. I think it's fine for some of the larger scales like 48th but it can look a bit overdone on smaller planes, especially panel lines.
ChrisL'll probably have pics, we went to Leuchars one year and they had a couple of Tornados that were just back from overseas service- iraq or afghanistan, I forget. And they looked like someone'd gone [i]mental[/i] with the world's biggest drybrush.
Anyone going to the Bolton show next weekend?
Like the Jaguar btw!
I am, with my lad and my dad.
Anyone going to the Bolton show next weekend?
Yes. A mate of mine is displaying some stuff. From West Yorks & does WW2 bombers & what not.
I'll be there at 10:00am. Should us STWers have a secret signal?
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Should us STWers have a secret signal?
Well I'm short & fat with glasses....Oh wait....so are lots of other people at these affairs!
I'll be wearing a very fetching [s]faded red[/s] pink baseball cap with 'Norway' on the front. (Just the word, not the actual country)
I look like Eddie Hitler and my lad will be wearing a Star Wars themed top. My dad looks like Eric Morcombe if he hadn't died.
I finally completed a pair of tiny Star Destroyers! They have been co-opted into Rebel Alliance service, hence the firebird insignia:
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Northwind - Member
ChrisL'll probably have pics, we went to Leuchars one year and they had a couple of Tornados that were just back from overseas service- iraq or afghanistan, I forget. And they looked like someone'd gone mental with the world's biggest drybrush.
I probably do, but the number of airshows I've attended is sadly much greater than the number of airshows whose photos I've sorted and uploaded. However I did find a couple of shots that I have uploaded which show that some aircraft can get pretty dirty and weathered:
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Tamiya 1/48 Spitfire MkI - 610 Squadron RAF June 1940. Mostly finished OOB but with a bit of hairspray technique on wing leading edges, wing root where the pilot walks. EZ-Line for the aerial wires.
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Next up? BSG Raptor by Moebius I think
^Nice.
???hairspray technique
Do tell...
Undercoat of whatever the base material was, in this case aluminium. Layer of hairspray* on top, leave to dry. Next coat(s) the camouflage colours, again let dry. Then with an old brush cut down to maybe 1/5 of original bristle length, wet the top coat with the appropriate thinner - I use acrylics so water - and scrub away. Try to go In the direction of ‘traffic’, in this case the airflow or the pilot’s feet
After a while the bare aluminium underneath starts to break through in a random pattern. Not unlike the intakes of that Harrier up there ^. You can just make it out on the leading edge of the starboard wing in my last picture
* I used a pump action gel spray, decanted a bit into a spare Tamiya paint jar & diluted it with water. Much easier to manage than a can of Insette Spiky
Picked up some bargains!
Airfix Red Arrows Hawk - £3
Airfix Beaufighter - £3
Mr Hobby Hawker Hunter - £6
Hasegawa Intruder - £7