[Closed] christianity: a history

sodafarls -
"Far more dangerous is the green dogma that passes for environmental science."
What part of it, and why? I'm interested, seriously.

How about the over 200 Australians burnt to death in the recent bushfires?

Epicyclo - what the point are you trying to make? Is it the the tree hugging hippies are spouting shite or that the concrete loving cronies are burying their heads in the sand?

well, presumably any god* worth its salt could capriciously create a plausible fossil record ?

That would hardly be infinitely merciful tho, would it? More like a mischievous joke at our expense. So not really compatible with the Christian idea of God.

Far more dangerous is the green dogma that passes for environmental science

Dangerous why? Cos we might end up in the terrifying state of polluting less and having a cleaner environment? God forbid.

save us all from 1000+ yrs of fighting?

Religion doesn't cause wars. It's usually just a pretext for attacking people that you think you don't like because they're not in your gang. Which makes some of these posts nicely ironic.

I think Epicyclo can only be referring to the reluctance of agencies to regularly burn off the build up of undergrowth that makes out of control fires so dangerous, as Aboriginals have done so for quite a long time. Arguments between some green groups and forestry agencies as to the impact of this have been going on for a while now. It's got little to do with climate change though, and less to do with "God".

sodafarls -
I think Epicyclo can only be referring to the reluctance of agencies to regularly burn off the build up of undergrowth that makes out of control fires so dangerous, as Aboriginals have done so for quite a long time....It's got little to do with climate change though, and less to do with "God".

The fires that have just occurred have destroyed huge swathes of bushland and all the creatures in it including over 200 humans.

I have to agree with Gus. Not religious myself, but don't have an issue with individuals practicing their religion.

I felt like Alpin once, that those having faith must be lacking something mentally and deserved my scorn. Then a friend of mine turned back to the Church. For the first few months I freely admit that I lost a bit of respect for them, felt they were being controlled etc. But I started to see subtle changes in attitude, hear about all the volunteer work they were doing for the community and the wider world. It's clear to me that they are now a better person thanks in part to their faith. I actually felt a bit ashamed about my initial feelings. True, lots of religious people are nasty pieces of work, but that's true of any subset of society.

Really what I'm trying to say is that making a negative judgement about someone based on their faith says more about you than it does about them.

That would hardly be infinitely merciful tho, would it? More like a mischievous joke at our expense. So not really compatible with the Christian idea of God.

but all the suffering in the world IS compatible ? You can believe in gods, but that does not constrain what they do. The fossils might be a test of faith. Not that I care.

it's green dogma rather than science., ie it is a faith belief rather than based on hard science. To me that equals religion. I don't understand the whys and wherefores, because maintaining the system used by the the Aborigines made more sense to me.

I would agree.

If a person derives comfort and a sense of purpose in their life from religious belief, then that's fine by me. The problem comes if they believe that their faith represents the only 'truth'out there & that everyone else should therefore fall into line...

I spose one of the good things about religion, is that it gives the Atheists something interesting to talk about...

And agnostics..and "religious types", eh? 😆

I tend to give religion a wide berth. It all worries me slightly.