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Another vote for the pre VTEC VFR 800, phenomenal bike for the money.  Bullet proof Honda engine that thrives on high mileage, pulls like a train, very comfortable.  I had mine for a few years in the early 2000s and regret selling it. Brilliant two up continental tourer and fun solo scratcher. They can be prone to regulator rectifier issues but that is easily sorted.  Also as someone said above, the riding position is on the sports side of sports-tourer so a little heavy on the wrists over long distance.  At the prices they go for now some of the best bang for buck you can find.

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Posted : 27/07/2024 9:40 am
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"Lovely bike, but uncompromising sports bike riding position sadly! This is why they were shagging them out so cheap… A mate bought one brand new for £12k down from £18.5k, sounds like you’ve done even better! I went to look at one, assuming it would be easy to make it fit like a normal Speed Triple… It isn’t! Gutted… Same Electronic Ohlins as I had on my Tuono Factory 1100 V4, and even more poke from that lovely triple! But I can’t deal with sports bike riding position any more…"

I'm 6'2" and 57 but I don't find it too bad for the kind of riding I (mostly) do so I'll live with it. It's somewhere between full-on sports bike and the naked version. Given the magic carpet suspension it's fine. I hear that the normal Speed Trip will have the fancy suspension for the next model year.


 
Posted : 30/07/2024 9:37 am
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But again they’ve achieved some sort of cult status in part because big air cooled singles went out of fashion for ages

There's a reason for that, bloody horrible for everything unless all you want is a bike to ride for 30 mins to the cafe/pub on a sunny Sunday in July.

I remember years ago buying a copy of Classic Bike and then leaving it at my folks.  My Dad was amazed at the money been spent on 'classic' bikes from his era (50's thru early 60's) - to quote, "they were crap back then".

Now I'm my Dad 🙂


 
Posted : 30/07/2024 9:44 am
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Well done @RustySpanner on getting a Guzzi for "a grand, maybe £1500" ;0)

30 years ago it would have been LC’s, narrow power bands and a box of holed pistons under the bed.

My holed LC piston is now a pencil holder on my garage workbench!


 
Posted : 30/07/2024 10:19 am
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So, just over 1000 miles in  on the Guzzi and I can't really fault it.

I'd prefer a slightly more sporting riding position, pegs further back and lower bars, but I'm getting used to it. It's very similar to a late 70's Bonneville.

Brakes are fine.

The biggest change has been the updated  engine map. Very unpleasant and unpredictable from a closed throttle initially, massive change after the service. Now incredibly smooth and predictable.


 
Posted : 03/08/2024 7:21 pm
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So, just over 1000 miles in  on the Guzzi and I can’t post a pic of it

😉 the forum is shite for doing photos still.


 
Posted : 03/08/2024 10:12 pm
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Hiya.

Summer appears to have buggered off but the Guzzi keeps on trucking.

220 miles today around Yorkshire and Bowland - the bike is fine, filled it up this morning and the fuel light came on just outside Downham.

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Well done @RustySpanner on getting a Guzzi for “a grand, maybe £1500” ;0)

Ah...sussed. ?

It was £5200, the cheapest V7 850 on Autotrader, due to it's high mileage.

Still think I might have overclubbed it, tbh. Once moving it's fine, but I'm non too confident at standstill or moving it round whilst stationary. It's a big lump when tired.

Quite happy with my riding, but would appreciate some advice on shifting a heavy bike at rest - have signed up for a Police Bikesafe course but all advice welcome.


 
Posted : 26/08/2024 6:22 pm
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 but would appreciate some advice on shifting a heavy bike at rest – have signed up for a Police Bikesafe course but all advice welcome.

Riding at slow speed, counter intuitively, put both feet on the pegs the moment it starts to move, no matter how slowly.  That thing people do where they stick both feet out like kids bike stabilisers has the opposite effect to what they are trying to achieve. It makes it much harder to balance.  Also, a light drag on the rear brake helps sometimes when slow manoeuvring.

Manhandling the bike around whilst off it, in the garage etc. There is an exercise they do on some of the off road experience days where they get you to walk all round the bike in a full circle with just 1 finger holding it up.  Easier than it sounds and a real confidence boost.  When upright on a flat surface, even a heavy bike is nicely balanced,  There is an angle of lean, say 12-15 degrees when it suddenly becomes impossible to hold up don't try, let it fall -  you'll put your back out otherwise. But keep it out of that kind of lean and it easy to keep upright.  Left side of bike, left hand flat on the pillion seat or on a grab rail and front hand on the bar.  If you're worried about stopping it rolling, put it in gear and release the clutch to act as a brake.  If your garage is very tight you can get one of those lazy Susan type turntables for the centre stand.  There is a way of pivoting a bike around on it's sidestand but that never feels safe to me.  I always think the side stand will snap!

Practice and confidence is the main thing.


 
Posted : 26/08/2024 9:03 pm
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A lot of man handling avoidance requires you to plan your stops and parking a bit before you jump off - taking the time to reverse roll a bike in to a space , ride in and loop to face forward etc . You can bounce a bike down on the forks to get it to start rolling back and pivot them on the side stand to spin them around but at the end of the day a big bike is a heavy beast.  A lower seat also makes it easier: my Harley is easier to push around than my kwak 550 was.


 
Posted : 27/08/2024 11:28 am
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Good advice @kilo about planning when parking/stopping. I would add a couple. If you have to park on a slope, park facing upwards with the bike left in first gear. Avoid parking across a slope as it risks straining the side stand and makes it harder to lift back to vertical or... makes it more likely to be knocked off the stand if it's leaning up hill. Parking on a road side, rear tyre against the curb, in gear, steering lock engaged.

If it's windy, park so the wind is from the right of the bike, pushing it onto the side stand, not off! I've seen a few bikes blown off their side stand in high winds.


 
Posted : 27/08/2024 11:54 am
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Brilliant advice folks. Much appreciated.

Mrs is away this week and I've had some time off. Spent today just practicing low speed stuff locally. Feel more confident now.

Bike has been named after my great aunt, Anastacia Duplex. Duplex because of the frame, obviously. Anastacia because it's 50 shades of grey.

And I accidentally found a forum post from the previous, original owner, who got rid because of paranoia about cheap Chinese components (cheers Piaggio) and overcomplicated electronics.

Still loving it.

Luggage arrives next week. Extended delay because the Givi factory closes for the whole of August.


 
Posted : 30/08/2024 7:41 pm
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This was mine. It was a scream to ride wish I'd never sold it.33989306862_08b4a6aa1a_c


 
Posted : 31/08/2024 6:33 pm
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