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About 12 months ago got dealer to cover 75% of cost of set of 4 Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetric 3 in 255/45/19/104Y.
About £220 each then; marginally more now.
Given my massively reduced mileage the tyres will die of old age before they wear out.
What are the odds they’d actually fit… I’m going slim to none 😂
Depends whether you have a Vauxhall Insignia or not then @ross980
That'll be a no then.
Still waiting for the MPS4 all season to be released in my staggered wheel size.
Doubt they'll be cheap.
The ambulances round here (EMAS) switch to winters and back to summers according to date, regardless of the weather.
My paramedic mate tells me that winter tyres on an unseasonably warm autumn day squirm and slither horribly, and wear out in days (even fewer than usual).
So if you have a heavily laden 4x4 Skoda estate and you tend to rag it I wouldn't have winter tyres as the only tyres.
In the down camp here. Goodyear all seasons for my Skode Superb down around £5 from last year to £114 each.
Pair due to be fitted before winter as fronts down to around 3mm.
Insignia has a 'standard' bolt pattern and number though that will fit other cars...be more of an issue if the wheels are 5-bolt and you need 3-bolt, but they might still fit if the sizing if right...
The ‘efficient’ wording could readily be replace by ‘lack of’. Bloody awful things they were.
Had several sets on my diesel estate a few years back.
Did what it said on the tin. Reasonable mpg. Lasted well. Fairly low noise.
Not fabulous cornering or grip. But so what.
Maybe you fitted the wrong tyre?
IIRC these are made in OEM and aftermarket spec with the OEM ones being not so hot - that might be a bit 'pub fact'. Maybe an industry expert (we must have one on here) could enlighten?
The ‘efficient’ wording could readily be replace by ‘lack of’. Bloody awful things they were.
Had several sets on my diesel estate a few years back.
Did what it said on the tin. Reasonable mpg. Lasted well. Fairly low noise.
Not fabulous cornering or grip. But so what.
Maybe you fitted the wrong tyre?
IIRC these are made in OEM and aftermarket spec with the OEM ones being not so hot – that might be a bit ‘pub fact’. Maybe an industry expert (we must have one on here) could enlighten?
+1 Have a pair on my gti, they're 'fine' - seem to be lasting very well. Did ok in winter, doing ok in summer. Sometimes a bit screechy if you're driving faster than most round bends but they aren't scrabbling
They appear to have not changed price
So if you have a heavily laden 4×4 Skoda estate and you tend to rag it I wouldn’t have winter tyres as the only tyres.
I reckon you're looking at 5h1t tyres.
I happily ran Pirelli winters on my 435d - and last year ran the same tyres throughout 2020 (lockdown) on the replacement 320d. Ragged them just the same as the summers.
IMO for 99% of folk, quality winters would be fine all year around here (I'm rural Scotland).
Car tyres are cheap considering the mileage you get compared to the tyres we buy for our bicycles.
Yep, always thought car tyres were very cheap, relativity. And they are still cheap if you don't insist on driving a car with unnecessary large and wide tyres
if you don’t insist on driving a car with unnecessary large and wide tyres
To be fair, this is the vast majority of cars manufactured now. It's a trend I've never understood though. In a world where people forensically examine the cost of VED, insurance and fuel economy, they'll then go ahead and buy a small city car sitting on 19" rims, trebling the cost per tyre relative to something more appropriate.
What's the optimal tyre profile for "average" car?
65?
70?
Mine has 65 profile FWIW.
Other halfs boring diesel bus has 45 profiles, which is ludicrous. OTOH we didn't buy the car because of the wheels... we suffer the wheels.
What’s the optimal tyre profile for “average” car?
Considering the shitty state of UK road surfaces the last few years, I reckon full profile, 100 would be best.
My van has 14" wheels. However, it weighs 3 tonnes so, due to the load rating tyres are >£100 each.
The date on the current tyres is 2008!
IMO for 99% of folk, quality winters would be fine all year around here (I’m rural Scotland).
You might be right but Winter tyres tend to do badly in the mild and wet which makes a swap more sensible in SW England. My next set of tyres will be All-Season then I can forget the whole palaver.
Considering the shitty state of UK road surfaces the last few years, I reckon full profile, 100 would be best.
Wasn't the standard 80 back in the day? When I started driving I don't remember tyres for ordinary cars even stating a profile, I'm sure the tyres on my old P6 were just 185R14. Which I think is about the tyres size on my mum's Fabia!
I wouldn’t be at all confident about £37 tyres being able to get round a roundabout in the wet.
Soon after passing my test I had a £200 mk1 Jetta (yes, wish I'd kept it, etc). I think it was a 1300. It had four cheap tyres on biscuit size rims. Would unstick sideways, usually at about 20 mph, on a roundabout, in just a hint of rain.
Absolute deathtrap, now I come to look back at it.
Worst handling car I ever drove was a mk 1 Triumph Vitesse convertible. This was partly because we had just rebuilt it and I was driving it to the MOT test with virtually no petrol, no hood or rear seat and so very little weight over the notorious swing axle rear suspension, but mostly because it was on 10 year old cross ply tyres.
It passed first time, but then it was 1982 and MOT requirements were a little less exacting compared to today.
Taught me very early on that cheap tyres or old tyres are just not worth it, so I have always gone to a good make and changed when about 3mm of tread left.
The ‘efficient’ wording could readily be replace by ‘lack of’. Bloody awful things they were.
Had several sets on my diesel estate a few years back.
Did what it said on the tin. Reasonable mpg. Lasted well. Fairly low noise.
Not fabulous cornering or grip. But so what.
The point I was making, badly it appears, is that they gave me no confidence grip-wise (which you do allude to yourself 😉 ). On my Vectra they were awful, especially compared to the GY Eagles that were originally spec'd with the car. Anyhoo, apologies for stealth ad, but genuinely, if anyone is looking for a set of 17" alloys with all-season tyres on PM me and I'll gather the relevant size, part number etc details. Not going to get into it here.
IHN
Full MemberI’ll ask this here as the thread’s running – we’re going to need some winter tyres on at least one of our vehicles. Am I best getting ‘all-season’ ones and leaving them on, or ‘winter’ ones and swapping them on and off?
IMO winter and summer is still the best, but allseasons have got really good. If you've got the space for spare wheels and it's a car that picking up wheels isn't too hard then I'd still go that way (I did!).
Reasons, basically 1) it's actually generally cheaper over a long enough time period, because good allseasons are expensive. 2) especially because you can often buy wheels with good used winter tyres on, especially if you have the sort of car that people buy winter tyres for, because they sell the car then sell the wheels separately (and so can you) 3) You're basically saving the tread for when you want it- rather than maybe arrive in winter with allseasons which still have a summer in them but are past their best for bad weather 4) Having spare wheels is pretty useful sometimes.
And in the end, winters still outshine allseaons when it comes to really sketchy situations, heavier snow, etc- which is exactly when I most want my tyres to be most good. And my summer tyres outshine allseaons in summer, which is less important but still useful.
Having said all that, in fresh snow my current car would probably run out of ground/bumper clearance way before it ran out of safe grip on crossclimates. And you can manage a lot of the worst just by avoiding driving which if you can, is probably smarter than driving at all regardless of tyres. But sometimes you get caught out.
Not fabulous cornering or grip. But so what.
That’s the only thing I look for in a tyre, pretty much their only job.
IHN
Full MemberI’ll ask this here as the thread’s running – we’re going to need some winter tyres on at least one of our vehicles. Am I best getting ‘all-season’ ones and leaving them on, or ‘winter’ ones and swapping them on and off?
We moved from summers & winters to all seasons when we moved down from Loch Tay to Dunblane.
IMO, unless you are 'proper' Highlands / Pennines / north of Penrith / big snow and ice regularly, the All Seasons are brilliant. The new ones are great, even in summer, even when cornering and braking 😉 They just work, they work better in the cold but not freezing, they clear rain better i.e. more of the time they are the better tyre.
That and learn when not to go out and get caught.
If you are 'out in the wilds' and see many many frosts and regular snowfall, then full winters are better for those extreme conditions.