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If you fall on ice or snow they havent cleared,or done badly,surely under Health and Safety regulations you have the right to a safe workplace,eg drivers and postmen etc, who use the roads and streets for work activities.


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 8:23 pm
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you can if you're a bit tragic


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 8:24 pm
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shut up


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 8:25 pm
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lost for words.


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 8:25 pm
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Teachers are quoteing H and S so why cant the public who pay their wages.


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 8:26 pm
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The advice was not go out? Unless you have to, and to take care in the adverse weather conditions.


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 8:27 pm
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But posties,paramedics,district nurses and me have to go out as do delivery drivers,doctors,and lots more.


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 8:29 pm
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LEA 's are quoting H & S because people sue them when their kids fall over on snow and on wet floors .....go figure 🙄

You would need to prove negligence and they would probably argue you could have assessed the risk better and worn appropriate PPE such as crampons or just crawled over the danger.


 
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Teaschers are quoteing H and S so why cant the public who pay their wages.

they can if they can spell 'teachers', 'quoting' and 'can't'

this is a very poor quality troll - who do I sue?


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 8:29 pm
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Chatting to a friend who works in A&E & the number of fracture due to the snow and ice she has had to deal with over the last week.

If you could, I think it would bancrupt our council!


 
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Posted : 09/01/2010 8:45 pm
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The fault, if there is any, would be with your employer if they made you go out in hazardous conditions? Did you have the correct training and equipment provided?

IGMC


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 8:54 pm
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what do you do?


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 8:59 pm
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snow - act of god - no claim

If cleared then potential claim senario depending on circumstances


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:00 pm
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traffic warden


 
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mtfu


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:02 pm
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On as long as you lodged your risk assessment and method statement prior to setting out. Otherwise the HSE can sue you for failing to perform your legal duty to ensure that you don't endanger yourself or others. H&S is everybodies responsibility...
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Posted : 09/01/2010 9:05 pm
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+1 tinman.

Your employer has to provide a safe system of work, a statutory requirement. Every work task has to have a suitable and sufficient risk assessment, and associated method statement drawn up by a person compenent to provide these. This would take into account the working environment, (i.e. ice on pavements) and detail measures to control the risk from avoidance of the work, (best) to minimum standards of PPE (minimum).

So when people claim that they are [s]skiving[/s] not going to work due to health and safety fears, it is bount to be because their employer has evaluated the risks and deemed that stopping at home is the best cause of action. So you can now go sleding instead.


 
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Your employer has to provide a safe system of work, a statutory requirement. Every work task has to have a suitable and sufficient risk assessment, and associated method statement drawn up by a person compenent to provide these. This would take into account the working environment, (i.e. ice on pavements) and detail measures to control the risk from avoidance of the work, (best) to minimum standards of PPE (minimum).

fab


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:23 pm
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Is your real name allah or mahamed of similar?

Nice bit of racism there.


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:25 pm
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Someones going to be in trouble ❗


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:26 pm
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Is your real name allah or mahamed of similar?

eh?


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:27 pm
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No wonder the council tax increases every year.. 🙄


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:28 pm
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Surely the council have a duty of care,to the public.


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:29 pm
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Bigotry actually. They not a race just an ideology like the Nazi's.


 
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"If cleared then potential claim senario depending on circumstances "

Total b00l0x. See the other thread.

If atheists (I'm aware many of you are) avoid liability by claiming an act of God, aren't they being hypocrites? 😀


 
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They not a race just an ideology like the Nazi's.

takes one to know one!


 
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surely [i]the public who fall over[/i], whoever they are, have a duty of care to themselves and should stop being a load of helpless ****tards. maybe the council should send workers out to walk in front waving flags and pointing out hazards?


 
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Bigotry actually. They not a race just an ideology like the Nazi's.

Oh well that's ok then. Who are 'they' btw?


 
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Whats that supposed to mean you half wit?


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:34 pm
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starseven a stupid and offensive slur suggesting only Muslims make claims and dont work shame on you


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:35 pm
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starseven [i]is[/i] a [s]stupid and offensive slur suggesting only Muslims make claims and dont work shame on you[/s] ****t

HTH


 
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I cant beieve that starseven is even trying to justify his ignorance, even if you dont like a particular race/religion/sex/etc etc there may be better times and places to make your point, not in the middle of a unrelated thread.


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:44 pm
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as a bigot is defined as

A person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.
The correct use of the term requires the elements of obstinacy, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing devotion.

A pointless appeal to rationality


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:46 pm
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I work for a very large Met. And you are talking shit.


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:50 pm
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Apart from TinMan and tthew everything else said above is complete tosh. Yes you can try to claim from the local council, but not under H&S law as highways are expressly excluded from the definition of a 'workplace'.

The Government changed the law in 2003 to place a legal duty on highway authorities to try to keep highways clear of snow and ice and they have to take reasonable steps to do so.

As a defendant lawyer I would argue on behalf of the authority that in these exceptional conditions they are doing all they reasonably can in prioritising the main roads. Your lawyer would argue that by now they should have worked their way down the list to the more minor roads and pavements. The fact that the Government has now instructed highway authorities to cut gritting by 25% adds an interesting complication.

The warning to people not to travel carries no legal weight but again I would argue that you should have stayed indoors/worn better footwear/taken more care.

Any claims in current circumstances are likely to be difficult but no doubt there will be some as there have already been some very serious injuries.

In an employment situation your employer has a duty to risk assess and to take appropriate steps to reduce the risk, including to provide suitable PPE.


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:50 pm
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Starseven - Utter nonsense. It scares me that people like you come out with this crap.


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:51 pm
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pulls up a chair...........

Beer anyone?


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:52 pm
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you utter imbecile are you suggesting all the money goes on Muslims- get some evidence you utter fool
Second only to ****stan we have more here than Iran ,Iraq,Indonesia, Afghanistan -quick tell the US of A they will invade us soon to stop the spread of terrorism. More than actual Muslim countires are you sure about that , Egypt,Jordan, Nigeria, Turkey
I apologoise with my description of a bigot above I totally misunderestimated your stupidity.


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 9:53 pm
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Muslims have no interest in our community and as such no hesitation in making claims from our councils, they have a single minded following of a medieval superstition which supersedes any political or communal boundaries.

do you truly believe all muslims are this radical?

the majority of muslims believe in allah a bit and maybe go to mosque at the weekend, some are more dedicated and pray to mecca a few times a day, a tiny minority are full of hatred for those different to themselves.

just like some other religions. and some athiests - as demonstrated by yourself.


 
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You could try ,,....

But I would hope and EXPECT you fail ... and get to pay the costs of defending your claim against the defendant ..

WTF happened to PERSONAL RESPONSABILTY !!!!

oh ... and if you haven't done it already ...

Go clear the path outside your house !!!!


 
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oops

double post


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 10:00 pm
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Ask your council where all the money goes.

This is amazing. Where does all the money go? On muslims making compensation claims? Did you read that in the Daily Mail/Express?

Words fail me.
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Posted : 09/01/2010 10:10 pm
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Muslims have no interest in our community and as such no hesitation in making claims from our councils, they have a single minded following of a medieval superstition which supersedes any political or communal boundaries.

Did your mate Nick tell you that?

Did being a ****wit come naturally or have you had extensive training?


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 10:10 pm
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To get back to the oiginal post, this is where my 'Shit Happens' law would come into place!


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 10:18 pm
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Muslims have no interest in our community and as such no hesitation in making claims from our councils, they have a single minded following of a medieval superstition which supersedes any political or communal boundaries.

😯 I actually feel embarrassed for you and your ignorance. But I am guessing you don't. Ignorance is bliss and all that.


do you truly believe all muslims are this radical?

the majority of muslims believe in allah a bit and maybe go to mosque at the weekend, some are more dedicated and pray to mecca a few times a day, a tiny minority are full of hatred for those different to themselves.

just like some other religions. and some athiests - as demonstrated by yourself.

This is the money shot here! You could say this for many religions. Catholic and chistians both fit this description.

Back to the OP, work for a council. My understanding is that if the path is gritted then there could be negligence as it hasn't been gritted properly but if it hasn't then its an act of god. Although I think all these rules may be out the window in these circumstances. You also need to MTFU and get on with it!


 
Posted : 09/01/2010 10:35 pm
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looks like a case for [url= http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/ ]speak you're branes[/url]

fwiw unfortunately you don't have the god given human right NOT to slip on ice.


 
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Posted : 10/01/2010 12:12 am
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I assume lots of posts have been removed from this thread??!! Otherwise, you've all gone a bit mental and made up a racist alter ego....

DrP


 
Posted : 10/01/2010 3:04 pm
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This place never ceases to amaze me. To think these people are out on the trails with us!

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Posted : 10/01/2010 3:26 pm
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I blame Janet Street Porter and the Ramblers Association, oh and the village idiot that London elected as major!


 
Posted : 10/01/2010 3:29 pm
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please emigrate


 
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