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 Rich
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Posted : 09/06/2009 8:39 pm
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Posted : 09/06/2009 8:47 pm
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Wooooooosh


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 8:54 pm
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Wooooooosh

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Really? You're giving into G too easily.....


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 8:57 pm
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Oops


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 8:58 pm
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but between being shook up and the bollocking I got I learnt more and took more notice than any 3 points and fine would have taught me.

But
Case no 2 actually wasn't really my fault

would suggest otherwise.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 10:55 pm
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would be equally resolved by ... his sentence being reduced to make it proportionate.

Well that sums up our disagreement. You seem to think that because the law hasn't worked properly in some cases, that it's unfair when it does work properly and your mate gets done.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 10:57 pm
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Zokes - you just don't get it do you?

I was pissed off at the cyclist because he was being a cock.

I was pissed off at folk driving back from trail centres and driving like cocks.

Moral of the story is dont be a cock on the roads.

Well, as you can't even manage not to be a cock on here, what hope is there of you not being one in real life, let alone at the wheel of a car. I tend to find arrogant, sanctimonious little monkeys the worst drivers of all. Totally oblivious of their own faults and blame everyone else for their poor judgement. Regardless of how much of a 'cock' the cyclist was being, he was quite within his rights to cycle there, and you were not within yours to force him out of the way. Whilst your viewpoint is valid about driving on adrenaline, i'd rather come across someone focussed driving on adrenaline, rather than someone half asleep. Why don't you start a thread on here demanding that we don't drive whilst we're tired? Perhaps you could do it in that condescending tone you use so well and we all admire you for, or is it past your bedtime?

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Posted : 09/06/2009 11:09 pm
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No need for the personal insults. For that I have reported your post. People have been banned for less...


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 11:14 pm
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Posted : 09/06/2009 11:48 pm
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LOL


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 11:49 pm
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LOL @ zokes the cyber bully


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 11:50 pm
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Smee - I think you will find many folk agree with Zokes.

If you can't take it dont dish it out.


 
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Posted : 10/06/2009 6:15 pm
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Imagine if smee was reported every time he was offensive! 😆

The admin would be overwhelmed. 😉


 
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Posted : 10/06/2009 8:07 pm
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Rich - I think you'd find that the number would be very small and only ever when I had been subjected to abuse first, but don't let reality get in the way of anything.


 
Posted : 10/06/2009 8:10 pm
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but don't let reality get in the way of anything.

Not that you'd ever do that Smee, eh?

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Posted : 10/06/2009 10:57 pm
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Smee - several times you have been abusive without being abused first. I have been tempted to report you for your behaviour and general nastyness


 
Posted : 10/06/2009 10:59 pm
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TJ - show me where.


 
Posted : 10/06/2009 11:01 pm
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Look if you lot want to make up your own thread, thats fine, but not on mine please.

Now then, about my mate........ 🙄


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 12:20 pm
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Nar, letting Smee demonstrate that he thinks he is a superior human being to the rest of us is far more amusing though....


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 12:52 pm
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I understood that he was....


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 12:53 pm
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Posted : 11/06/2009 12:55 pm
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Haven't read all of this, but he would have a very good chance on appeal I would think, unless they've become more hard line recently. Did the photo show he was driving? If he is father, sole bread winner etc, an appeal has to be worth a try. Either that or employ a driver/assistant?


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 1:16 pm
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Took a brief with him, gave it the full monty in court, and this is waht he got. An appeal is a) expensive, b) Very unlikely to succeed, and c) unlikely to come to court prior to the original sentnce being completed, so no real point frankly.

Regarding employing someone, he is a small one man self employed fella, scrapes a living, but thats about it. Simply put he can't afford it. Currently driving a 10 year old motor sort of thing.

Apparently on the day in question they were handing out 6 month bans like confetti. court officials etc all displaying surprise at the severity.


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 1:31 pm
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From the local paper today:

Bannister, who qualified as an advanced police driver a month before the accident, was driving on the M4 near Swansea when his BMW 5 series spun out of control.
He received minor injuries when the car flew through the air on the night of January 13, 2008, after hitting water at 113mph.
The crown court heard that Bannister was stood down from an emergency call shortly before joining the motorway, but continued to drive at high speeds, reaching more than 120mph.

The guy was given a prison sentence of 5 months, served 20 days before being bailed and the sentence has now been quashed because it may affect whether he can go back to work as a traffic policeman.

Taking into account that he has served time, he has had a nominal fine of £50.

I think that's a better comparison than the Rhyl cyclists, G.


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 2:32 pm
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Should he be tazared G?


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 3:37 pm
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It however is possible to have an accident where people die without committing and offence.

Indeed it is. I know 2 people who have killed someone through no fault of their own.


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 3:52 pm
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Its also possible to die on the roads due to anothers negligence or incompetence without anyone giving a shit apparently, so whats your point caller??


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 4:00 pm
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From the local paper today:

Bannister, who qualified as an advanced police driver a month before the accident, was driving on the M4 near Swansea when his BMW 5 series spun out of control.
He received minor injuries when the car flew through the air on the night of January 13, 2008, after hitting water at 113mph.
The crown court heard that Bannister was stood down from an emergency call shortly before joining the motorway, but continued to drive at high speeds, reaching more than 120mph.

The guy was given a prison sentence of 5 months, served 20 days before being bailed and the sentence has now been quashed because it may affect whether he can go back to work as a traffic policeman.

Taking into account that he has served time, he has had a nominal fine of £50.

I think that's a better comparison than the Rhyl cyclists, G.

Or how about [url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/5284962.stm ]THIS[/url] for the other side of the coin....


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 4:07 pm
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Re "the other side of the coin" above

Love the quote from the speeding plod as to why he was doing 130 on a public road:

In a statement read out in court, he said: "I was advised to familiarise myself with vehicles, so when there was a need to respond at speed you were aware of its performance."

Essentially practising, do hope that the Neurosurgeon who will be operating on my wife in a couple of weeks won't be just "familiarising himself with the spinal chord".

There are places he can go to drive quickly away from the public - what an absolute knob.


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 4:27 pm
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won't be just "familiarising himself

Yeah, but there must have been a point when he was surely? Bet he didn't come out of the womb with an inate ability?

The feds like everyone else do have to train and practice their skills, it is normal though for this to be authorised in advance with proper risk assessments etc in place. Sounds a lot to me like this guy was playing and got caught, otherwise it should have been easily sorted prior to any court proceedings.


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 4:33 pm
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Since speeding fines against ambulance drivers have been axed the simple solution is to buy an ambulance and drive everywhere with the blues and twos going - simples.....


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 5:05 pm
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[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8094910.stm ]What about this fella then?[/url]


 
Posted : 11/06/2009 7:15 pm
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Can't see the problem - he was on the snow not on the road at the time, so how is it a Road Traffic offence?


 
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