Well, the Scottish Tories don't want Brexit, nor does the SNP or the Lib Dems. Labour's position is ambiguous, you get the impression that they just want the debate to go away. The Conservatives don't want Brexit, aside from a minority that until Friday morning held the keys to power. It's also clear that the pro-Brexit press was a damp squib for the first election in modern times.
This is why all parties [i]need[/i] to debate and find consensus, rather than a minority taking ownership.
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chewkw - Memberchewkw said something stupid.
I only have two people on my filter, no prizes for guessing the other one.
There was a great program on Radio four this afternoon in the Law in Action slot, talking about the legal implications of Brexit. The very salient point they made is that we now have 30 years of legislation to catch up with. I know the uk gov plan to fudge that with the "Great Repeal Bill" which should be more rightly named the "Great Lets Keep All The EU Regs The Public Are Too Thick To Notice Bill" but anyway I digress.
Definitely worth a listen on the podcast when it comes online, the show explains everything very well.
Sadly the chrome add on doesn't work on mobile devices 😥
Then you need to look back in history and tell your ancestors they were wrong to explore the unknown. [b]Captain James Cook why did you navigate to the end of the world where nobody been there before?[/b]
Difficult to ask Cook at the time, given that he was murdered on expedition in Hawaii. Good analogy 🙂
Thanks hels.
A huge worry for me is that we adopt the EU legislation and then some unscrupulous party decides to legislate away the bothersome stuff, while keeping the rest.
You can probably guess where I'm going with this.
But he did get a pig named after him !
And, like the country on this issue, the last incumbent of No 10 probably f***** it.
The question is who are willing to give way?
Her name rhymes with Enola Gay
Captain James Cook why did you navigate to the end of the world where nobody been there before?
At least he had the good grace not to insist that everyone in the country had to go with him on his exploratory journey.
Chewie, your efforts at trolling are appreciated, purely from a persistence standpoint. You have managed to exasperate a lot of people purely by keeping going. Well done.
Does that satisfy you?
Only when his input garners no responses will he be dissatisfied
Why feed him?
The majority on here seem to equate the failed Tory GE result to anti brexit sentiment from the disgruntled electorate.
Have you considered that other factors like those below might be a more probable explanation?
Dementia Tax
Austerity
Theresa May's arrogant stance
Free tuition fees
...
I'll take a Troll, but we need an equivalent for those of you who with such 'high and mighty' attitudes. Beggars belief.
Why free tuition fees?
Why do you think so many young voters ticked the Labour box. If I was heading to uni this year or was in my first year I'd be ticking the Labour box.Why free tuition fees
Get uni paid for then switch to Tory once I've graduated.
The majority on here seem to equate the failed Tory GE result to anti brexit sentiment from the disgruntled electorate.
May [i]did[/i] say she wanted the election to give her a mandate to go to Brussels and get the best brexit (honey nut I believe). The electorate didn't give a majority, ergo they, at the very least, don't want May to do it, or rather no one to do it.
When it gets called off this will be looked back upon as the most bizarre 3 years (more?) in politics.
To the rest o' y'all, I have 3 words for you.
Hook.
Line.
Sinker.
I hesitate to post in a political thread. But in defence of chewkw, although he might not agree with the apparent majority view on here, he's not the only one who thinks Brexit will eventually be a good thing, and he is never posts rude remarks about any one else.
Rather more than can be said for a lot of you guys.
Rather more than can be said for a lot of you guys.
What about the ones who wind the others up enough to use the insults, then go crying to [s]mum [/s] mods when they do?
It would be very easy to insult, but I'll try to be helpful instead.
It's explained here in a Tory newspaper OP, so hopefully a source you can trust...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/Who-are-the-DUP-democratic-unionist-party-northern-ireland/
Do let us know if you have any further questions.
I hesitate to post in a political thread. But in defence of chekw, although he might not agree with the apparent majority view on here, he's not the only one who thinks Brexit will eventually be a good thing, and he is never posts rude remarks about any one else.
Rather more than can be said for a lot of you guys.
He says what he says purely to get a rise out of people. 100% trolling
There's definitely lots of factors that affect how people vote whether it's Dementia tax, tuition fees, austerity, NHS privatisation, liking your mp, not liking Theresa, liking Jeremy
But there's a not insignificant number of people who voted tactically in the vain hope that we would end up with a coalition involving parties who's asking price would be a referendum on the final Brexit deal with the hope that Brexit gets cancelled.
That's the problem with following the advice of a very close advisory referendum (aka opinion poll). It doesn't take many people to move their vote for a completely different result and you've got enough pissed off losers to cause a lot of problems.
I'm still trying to fit together the tories repeated and effective efforts to alienate their own core segment of the electorate.
Chewkw might be trolling. But this is an Internet forum and fundamentally of no lasting importance whatsoever.
He is unfailingly good humoured and civility costs nothing.
But in defence of chekw..and he is never posts rude remarks about any one else.Rather more than can be said for a lot of you guys.
But his behaviour on the forum leaves much to be desired, in spite of [i]constant[/i] reminders about the forum rules. He has a habit of repeating thew same facile arguments time and again. Honestly, I'm all for debate and for finding common ground with people who may share a different political view to me, but he seems to take great delight in behaving like an annoying halfwit.
What about the ones who wind the others up enough to use the insults, then go crying to mum mods when they do?
So expressing a difference of opinion is a valid excuse for insults?
I pity you chap.
I am not sure anyone has claimed otherwise. have they ?Chewkw might be trolling. But this is an Internet forum and fundamentally of no lasting importance whatsoever.
unfortunately he is also unfailing incoherent and has been for years.He is unfailingly good humoured and civility costs nothing
Then ignore him. But the insults in this thread have gone a bit far I think.
Apparently it is and oh the ****ing ironyexpressing a difference of opinion is a valid excuse for insults?I pity you chap.
I hesitate to post in a political thread. But in defence of chekw, although he might not agree with the apparent majority view on here, he's not the only one who thinks Brexit will eventually be a good thing, and he is never posts rude remarks about any one else.Rather more than can be said for a lot of you guys.
Go look are his posting history. Quite frankly the first 6 months were the tinfoil hat wearing blitherings of someone on quite frankly epic levels of medication. Now I admit they are slightly more lucid now than then (they have probably sorted the dose out a little) but he is still totally incapable of adding much to a debate of any worth beyond a bit of goading. As my old boss would say he is a waste of a good skin, or in this case a forum name. I'm all up for a good debate with someone of opposing views, indeed I think you need that to clarify your own, but he is not that person. I think it is fair to say he is not welcome or wanted here but like the pub bore can't take the hint. To be fair if you had broadly right wing views he must be even more cringe worthy. There is a perception amongst us remoaners that brexiters are stupid, ignorant and uneducated. Sadly Chewy is the embodiment of that perception.
I do ignore him the problem is not everyone does.
As for insults if anyone posts like he does then they will get a reaction
Where it crosses the line is a decision for the mods so report away
Anyway....when did the UK actually join the EU? Anyone know without me Googling?
His posts are sometimes written in a slightly [i]unusual[/i] style. But again, it's just a forum. It doesn't really matter. It's ok to disagree with him, or even ignore him. But name calling is just a bit rude.
Hill Steet Blues/
Let's be civil out there.
/Hill Street Blues
So expressing a difference of opinion is a valid excuse for insults?I pity you chap.
You focus on that comment, not my on topic response to your question further up?
Case rests yronour.
[quote=esselgruntfuttock ]Anyway....when did the UK actually join the EU? Anyone know without me Googling?
depends when you wish to say the EU came into existence
I am not sure anyone has claimed otherwise. have they ?
Well, I will.
I reject absolutely that it's "only the Internet," like the medium is of lesser value than others and therefore it gives you carte blanche rights to be a nob. At the end of the day, whether it's the internet, a newspaper, TV, face-to-face, whatever, you're interacting with real people with real feelings (well, mostly I suppose).
I'm loathe to censor opinion even if it's unpopular opinion, but if you're being deliberately offensive or provocative then that makes you not a very nice person. It's shouldn't be a massive challenge to treat your fellow man with basic respect, even if it is "just" the Internet (and even if you believe they're a massive plum).
For my part, I've tried to engage with the guy, to try to explain why he's causing aggravation in his posts in a reasonably friendly way. But it doesn't seem to make a bit of difference.
understatement of the night award there [ though it appears they are more lucid than they were when i stopped reading as it was all glocks and zombie maggots in , being polite, what was broken english.His posts are sometimes written in a slightly unusual style
when did the UK actually join the EU?
We didn't, we joined the EEC which morphed into the EU (one of the sticks used by leavers to hit us with). It was the early 70s (73? maybe).
gentlest insult of the night awardeven if you believe they're a massive plum
in , being polite, what was broken english.
To be fair though Junky, you're hardly in a position to throw stones there. (-:
As for insults
Okeydoke.
You have a face life a Baboons arse!
My work here is done.
gentlest insult of the night award
Wasn't an insult. I was commenting on people's opinions, not speculating as to whether that opinion had any basis in fact.
Well well. Plenty of schoolyard tittle-tattling going on by the looks of it.
I'm not playing any more, then.
Not sure 'massive plums' is really an insult at all?
Lest you're a girl...
depends when you wish to say the EU came into existence
I seem to remember 'The Common Market' being mentioned at some point in my life, but I think I was about 18/19 (1975/6) & more interested in women & motorbikes. Is the EU something to do with that? Serious q.
I'm reminded that the forum has had other eccentric characters in the past and that some forum members had cause to regret what they'd written when the state of the persons mind became clear.
What I can't understand is that folk who think they are more clever/intelligent/sane that chewkw keep him entertained by responding to his threads and quoting him.
