[Closed] Campaign for more responsible cat ownership.

persistent repeat offenders should not be allowed to own a cat.

You don't really ever own a cat....

While we are at it can we have one about dog owners, and children owners and endless petitions. Thankfully they are not on paper anymore as that would be a complete waste of paper.

Cat owners who persistently fail to control their animals

Can we have one about starting pointless petitions online? I'd like that banned as well.

You are far too early with this thread,come back on April the 1st.

You don't really ever own a cat....

The solution is obvious - ban ownership of cats. And while we're at it - rather than legislate for cyclists to get "road tax" and insurance why don't we just ban cycling.

In fact ban everything that is a irritation to a minority of people - the world will be much better place if everything we do is tightly controlled by regulation, strongly policed and every irritation is criminalised.

oh the utopia where we can rest smugly in our armchairs reading our mid-market tabloids looking out through our lace curtains at streets empty of cats, bikes and noisy children

I've broken my collarbone and it hurts to laugh. I'm avoiding sites like the daily mash and the Mail to save being in pain. Folk here are generally good with a spoiler tag for sports and film related stuff, can we not have one for funny stuff like this too?

Why is the onus on me to clear all the cat shit up, why should I have to buy every electrical gadget to make them try and stop?
The time to take a realistic approach to fouling has arrived. People don't have to breathe in other people's cigarette smoke anymore, dog owners can be fined.
Just because cat owners have been oblivious to the problems they cause doesn't mean we have to put up with it anymore.
Let's say it's no longer acceptable and deal with this problem.
I am aware that cat owners are the most easily riled people on the planet. Take responsibility. Please.
PS if you don't agree don't sign it. Go and start a thread asking for greater powers to let your kids shit in my garden as well.

What a load of cat 5hit

Let's say it's no longer acceptable and deal with this problem.

or lets not...

I am aware that cat owners are the most easily riled people on the planet

I think you will find it's the owners of small shops . 🙂

Or Scottish people hell bent on using the pound 🙂

C.F.M.R.C.O? Doesn't even spell something rude.

My theory about cats is that they evolved beyond human beings, realised we're a bunch of mugs and that if they acted a bit dumb and looked cute, they'd be able to get away with being fed and kept by us without them having to do anything themselves anymore.
Smart creatures 🙂

I have just started an E-petition for the size of holes in Swiss cheese to be regulated.

[url= http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/53667 ]Please sign[/url]

Wrong one!

Parents should be required to proactively monitor their child, and it should be a criminal offence to allow an under-16 unrestricted access to the internet, through a personal computer, tablet, mobile phone or any other device capable of doing so.

Haggis, I won't sign .No problem with the holes it's the cheese that's rubbish.

I think that in law cats are known as 'free agents' or somesuch but dogs are not. Therefore if your dog causes a traffic accident, for example, you are held responsible for it. If your cat does then you are not held responsible.

I might start a petition to have miserable jeb ends who don't like cats fired in a rocket at the sun!

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AdamW - Member
I think that in law cats are known as 'free agents' or somesuch but dogs are not. Therefore if your dog causes a traffic accident, for example, you are held responsible for it. If your cat does then you are not held responsible.

I am aware that cat owners are the most easily riled people on the planet.

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Meanwhile in the house next door..

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It's much easier just to use a neighbor's lawn.
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Just as I feared the reach of The Catterati is long. Any mention of dissent towards our shape shifting overlords and a well oiled machine of outraged cat lovers springs into action.
We know who you are now and one day in the future when this darkness has been banished from our land a few of us will be able to say , 'Yes,I was there, I took a stand."
ps it's not my petition, merely one I strongly agree with.

It's hardly a 'campaign' though is it?

It's a half arsed link to a petition that nobody other than those who signed it will care about....

How would you even prove what cat shat on your lawn and who owned it?

Oh sorry, I apologise for trying to apply logic.

12 signatures so far. It's not going well is it?

He shouts at the birds that shit on his car & shakes his fist at the aeroplanes too!

Who gets the job of herding them up, sounds like a contract for group4.

Who do I complain to about birds crapping on my car?
Who's responsible for foxes pooling in my garden?
Is the council obliged to clean the trails left by slugs on my patio?

12 signatures so far. It's not going well is it?

Our Lord Jesus Christ also had 12 followers. Also he was mocked and derided by misguided fools.
But He forgave them as I forgive you.
They gave Him a crown of thorns you gave me a garden full of shit.

Please sign this if you agree.

I don't understand why even the most sour faced individuals would agree with that.

And I don't even like the evil, feral things!

Why is the onus on me to clear all the cat shit up, why should I have to buy every electrical gadget to make them try and stop?

You could consider it Troll Tax?

My cat doesn't own anything - therefore he has nothing to take responsibility for.

God I hate cats with a passion I truly plan murder every time I have to dig their shit out of my veg beds . Unhygienic psychopathic faithless killing machines if they were human they would be in secure units or prison . but there is no way I'd sign that stupid petition . I assume the OP is just having a laugh or Troll.

Get yourself a dog. The cat up the road with half an ear missing won't be shitting in my garden again anytime soon 😈

Nah! Let's have a petition to ban dogs who bark loudly at cyclists, causing them to fall off their bikes and look like berks in front of a pub garden full of people.

Clearly the OP will be paying for all the erosion he cause while out cycling offroad, on private land, as he would be responsible for the cost of re-instatement and repairs, no?

I ride on public rights of way and my taxes pay for their repair to whatever minimal damage I cause.
A better analogy would be me doing burn outs on my neighbour's lawn and telling them to suck it up as that's what motorbikists do and it's just part of life.

I'm gonna give it a go, I'm gonna train my cats and be a responsible cat owner,
Right after I've finished training my goldfish to sit and fetch...

I sympathise with you 100% zippykona but an e-petition isn't going to make any difference, one of my neighbours has 7 cats - she used to have 9 but 2 are now missing, prob something to do with the amount of shite they leave in folks gardens and veg beds around here - all the neighbours are really pissed off.

It's quite easy to go cat fishing as all you need is a suitable mesh net stretched out across the area that you wish to protect from shite and then it's just a waiting game, eventually you'll hear a wailing and then you go and see what you've caught - I caught a few and word must get around - they don't like it and before long they'll stay clear of your garden, doesn't hurt the cats and they soon get the message but removing them from the net can be tricky.

Failing that get a Jack Russell that likes to hide out of site till the cats come right into the garden before launching an attack - who knew cats could jump 6ft and cling onto a roughcast wall?, remarkable creatures indeed!.

My neighbour, who had completely had enough of the 5 cats from the property opposite shitting in his gravel drive, decided to soak some cat food in anti freeze and leave it in a bowl under his car. Unfortunately he got my 5 month old cat who had just started to venture beyond our garden gate.

It was a very traumatic end to his short life.

^ that's not nice

I have no doubt that if a neighbour did that to one of my pets, one of us would certainly end up prosecuted.

Responsible cat ownership would mean no cats getting poisoned and no neighbours getting punched.
All the world needs are more cat litter trays.

How would you even prove what cat shat on your lawn and who owned it?

If you don't control your pets then someone else will. It's not nice but owners have to do their bit to prevent it.

I know which cat it is because it's the same one that shit IN my car.

In my old house with small garden I just chucked the cat poo back into my cat owning neighbour's garden. I also use a super soaker when it came in one time but made the mistake of running up my tree so not a great escape.

zippykona - Member
I know which cat it is because it's the same one that shit IN my car.

Well at least it wasn't in your garden. 😉

Hmm, momentum is building, overnight the petition has shot up to 13 signatures 😯

13 signatures on an e-petition !

This has all the makings of a comedy sketch at the Edinburgh Fringe 🙂

[Edit] I think that I will go and start one about seagulls,I bet it could get higher than 13 [edit]

Ignorant cat owners should be neutered.

I have managed to attain a state of calm as I trowel up the turds, deposit them in a little bag and drop them into the bin. I don't really understand why it should be necessary for me to clean up after someone else's animal if I don't want a garden full of shit, but there we are.

When I spot one, I chase after it snarling, throw a handful of gravel or turn the hose on it, depending on what comes to hand.

Also, I like to piss in my garden. Someone once told me this annoys them, but it also feels great.

The last thing we need is more absurd legislation about incredibly minor social problems however.

Cat poo in your garden is annoying though! Ours has a designated are for it in our garden (he chose it) and we don't grow anything edible there.

Nothing is as bad as fox poo though!

Our cat is very responsible. She only craps in our garden or the litter tray. I did try to have a word with her about this 'problem' & could she have a word with the other feline population round here but clearly she couldn't give a shit.

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"Rub my tummy and we can talk about it"

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Yeah, & rub mine while your on...

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I effing hate clearing up cat shit from my garden. My 2yo boy seems to like picking it up though. Thanks responsible pet owners 😐

I just let our German pointer out at them whenever I see one in our garden now, I think they're starting to get the message 😈

Tummy Rubs ??

Count me in!

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a garden full of shit

Can someone post a picture of these gardens 'full' of shit? How much do you actually get? I've lived in suburban houses for a long time, seen hundreds of cats, and I'm not familiar with this issue. Only ever seen a few turds, whenever I'd let the grass grow really long.

Which makes me wonder why it's worse for some people.

I've just inherited a 20 year old cat that refuses to go anywhere but a litter tray. Any tips on how to train her to shit in the garden?

(or preferably somebody else's garden?)

Can someone post a picture of these gardens 'full' of shit?

You don't need to look that closely to see far too many turds on this thread.

I've had a word with Jeff and George, but they said they didn't seem too bothered:

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How much do you actually get?

Roughly one turd per day. Which equates to approximately 7 turds per week, or 30 per calendar month.

That is quite a lot of individual turds in a small suburban garden (obviously I don't let it "fill", I clean it up. It's not the end of the world, but it's a tedious externality to be dealing with as a result of someone else's choices.

For what it's worth, I have one of the larger gardens in my immediate neighbourhood, and I see at least 4 different cats coming and going. I suspect the people who own cats locally do not have gardens as large as mine.

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A simple Yes or No from the cat owners.
Is it acceptable for your animal to foul in someone else's garden?

They're shot on sight if they enter my property. If a cat is allowed to kill a bird or animal species that is protected by law, the owner should bear the full brunt of the law. It mystifies me why this isn't the case.

And it mystifies me why it is perfectly legal to shoot a dog that is worrying livestock, but perfectly illegal to shoot a cat that is killing rare or protected species on my land.

As far as I'm concerned, the OP's petition is a complete fail as all it seems to address is catshit in the herbaceous borders, and none of the more important aspects of the cat problem...

Is it acceptable for your animal to foul in someone else's garden?

Yes, it's a fact of life, you can't stop them. I'd rather birds didn't crap on washing etc, but they're not going to stop either...

Just squirt them with a water pistol.
It's fun, they don't get hurt and they'll avoid your garden.

That's coming from a cat owner. I squirt mine with a wee water pistol when they get out of line - it's fun.

I have one of the larger gardens in my immediate neighbourhood

Oh yeah, the old "I've got more turds in my garden" brag.

Just squirt them with a water pistol.

Or just squirt them with a lead-infused jet of cold air from a Weihrauch hw100. It guarantees that they won't do it again, and it's still fun! Yey! 😀

Yes, it's a fact of life, you can't stop them. I'd rather birds didn't crap on washing etc, but they're not going to stop either...

Not much of a comparison - birds are wild animals.

yourguitarhero - Member

Just squirt them with a water pistol.

i use a washing up liquid bottle; much more oomph. Range and aim not bad either.

It's fun,

agreed.

and they'll avoid your garden.

nope, if the cats that 'visit' my yard are anything to go by, cats are stupid as ****.

(it doesn't matter how many times they get a soaking, they're back soon enough, for another soaking)

Or just squirt them with a lead-infused jet of cold air from a Weihrauch hw100. It guarantees that they won't do it again, and it's still fun! Yey!

Do you really use an air rifle to shoot cats for pleasure kudos?

birds are wild animals

Humans aren't. So why are they buggering up the environment with all their crap ?

Not much of a comparison - birds are wild animals.

Except that in UK Law cats are considered untrainable:

The law relating to the trespass of domestic animals is contained in the Animals Act 1971. However, cats enjoy a unique position as the Animals Act 1971 does not apply to them. A cat cannot, therefore, in law trespass. As a cat cannot trespass its owner cannot be legally responsible for what their cat does outside of their property.

Footflaps, cat ownership is something you have chosen. It impacts upon your neighbours ,your view is selfish.
As yet Ive not had to clean any bird poo off my lawn , even though I'd like to see bird in Surrey that does a shit as big as a cat's.