So what we have now is a situation whereby the Leave campaign won the referendum but were singularly unable to field a candidate for PM within the Tory party and as a result we will have a PM who was on the Remain side (albeit only just) in charge of negotiating our exit from the EU that she didn't really want.
Does anyone else think they are living in some kind of farce?
Does anyone else think they are living in some kind of farce?
Armando Iannucci has ruled out a revival of TV satire The Thick of It because today’s “alien and awful” world of politics would be hard to match.The award-winning writer and creator of the popular BBC series, which made a star of Doctor Who’s Peter Capaldi, talked about the irony in a column for the New Statesman.
Iannucci said people write to him and suggest the return of The Thick of It every time something “stupid” occurs involving politics and politicians.
[b]“No. Absolutely not,” he wrote. “I now find the political landscape so alien and awful that it’s hard to match the waves of cynicism it transmits on its own.” He added: “Fiction is winning out because fact is no longer making sense.”[/b]
- Armando Iannucci.
Not to mention after all the unelected beaurocrat stuff, we have about as unelected as possible a PM.
Someone who sat on the fence like May did, does not fill me with confidence that she can deliver.
Does anyone else think they are living in some kind of farce?
My palm seems permanently stuck to my face at the moment.
Not to mention after all the unelected beaurocrat stuff, we have about as unelected as possible a PM
Well it's the third time it's happened in my lifetime and as been pointed out many many times it's perfectly correct and consistent with our electoral system.
Someone who had the sense to stay away from both the Leave and Remain campaign's more fantastical claims is smarter than all the people who have been tripped up by their own lies.
Not to mention after all the unelected beaurocrat stuff, we have about as unelected as possible a PM.
As elected as Gordon Brown, John Major, James Callaghan, Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Neville Chamberlain, Alex Douglas-Home and I could go on. This is not a new principle that the elected government changes leader during the term of government.
as been pointed out many many times it's perfectly correct and consistent with our electoral system.
Unless, of course, it is done by [i][b]Them[/b][/i], you know, the bad guys, the ones you don't agree with.
Let those that manned the barricades against the coronation of Gordon Brown cast the first stone.
No one Theresa May is our next PM.
She's the loser in a stepping-backwards competition
gonefishin - MemberNot to mention after all the unelected beaurocrat stuff, we have about as unelected as possible a PM
Well it's the third time it's happened in my lifetime and as been pointed out many many times it's perfectly correct and consistent with our electoral system.
Yes I completely agree. However, from a farce point of view it's an added facet of humour given one of the rallying cries of leave was 'get control back from the unelected officials' and we now have a PM voted for by 199 people.
So what we have now is a situation whereby the Leave campaign won the referendum but were singularly unable to field a candidate for PM within the Tory party and as a result we will have a PM who was on the Remain side (albeit only just) in charge of negotiating our exit from the EU that she didn't really want.
It certainly seems odd, but its probably better that we do have a 'Remainer' and a woman to boot, to negotiate our exit. She won't engender the 'hate' from EU that someone like Boris or Gove or even Leadsome would have....hopefully! The leave camp have got what they want and probably don't really want to do the dirty work, as Boris showed.
However, from a farce point of view it's an added facet of humour given one of the rallying cries of leave was 'get control back from the unelected officials' and we now have a PM voted for by 199 people.
That's a fair point and one that I missed. In my defence though it's difficult to keep up with [I]all[/I] the farcical points of this on going debacle.
Hurray for Taking Back Control
I feel so empowered!!!
I think you have to give credit to Theresa for her leadership campaign strategy of sitting back and doing absolutely nothing while her opponents individually commit acts of Seppuku
we have about as unelected as possible a PM.
that's because you vote for the party not the [s]president[/s] PM, in our seemingly inexorable drift towards US style presidential politics it's a point many seem to miss.
Maybe if the EU had a president elected by all in the EU then it would be perceived to be more democratic (but our outgoing PM didn't like that idea)
Given Mays track record for implementing things, I'm quite positive, brexit is being implemented by someone with a track record for failure to complete. Hooray.
Hurray for Taking Back Control
Taking Back Control: TBC
Given Mays track record for implementing things, I'm quite positive, brexit is being implemented by someone with a track record for failure to complete. Hooray.
i like your thinking! fingers/toes etc crossed.
Will May do another Abu Quatada?
.......... and miss the deadline for A50 renegotiation so we'll get dumped out with no deals in place whatsoever?
the tory press are going to frottage themselves into a gibbering mess with all the Thatcher comparisons
at least as leadsome kindly pointed out May doesnt have kids tho!
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You simply couldn't have made up the last few weeks.
She's probably the least worst candidate though.
flanagaj - Member
Someone who sat on the fence like May did, does not fill me with confidence that she can deliver.
Her position (and I am not a fan historically) was probably the best of the lot. She recognised the flaws in the EU but also recognised that despite them it was in the UK's best interests to remain on the basis of the unique conditions that the UK enjoyed.
Totally sensible position, in fact, the only sensible position.
No need to get embroiled in the lies and BS, just make you point and sit back and wait. She is the only senior politician who comes out of the past few weeks with any credit.
She recognised the flaws in the EU but also recognised that despite them it was in the UK's best interests to remain on the basis of the unique conditions that the UK enjoyed.
Just a shame the Brexiters didn't recognise the second point.
I wonder what she promised Andrea "stupid as mud" Leadsom to stand aside...
nickc - Member
I wonder what she promised Andrea "stupid as mud" Leadsom to stand aside...
magic beans i suspect
Or a bible Michael Gove left behind.
Loving this democracy! 😕
DaRC_L - Memberthat's because you vote for the party not the president PM
Holy moly, someone that understands how general elections work.
The amount of stupidity being spewed out about "I didn't vote in Theresa, what a farce". No you're right you didn't and nor did you vote in Cameron, you voted for your local MP.
seosamh77 - MemberLoving this democracy!
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True - but you voted for a local MP affiliated to an organisation which is supposed to have a democratically elected leader.Holy moly, someone that understands how general elections work.The amount of stupidity being spewed out about "I didn't vote in Theresa, what a farce". No you're right you didn't and nor did you vote in Cameron, you voted for your local MP.
Just confirmed May will be Prime Minister on Wednesday
but you voted for a local MP affiliated to an organisation which is supposed to have a democratically elected leader.
Except when, under its rules, one is elected as leader unopposed.
Anyhow, a vote involving mainly conservative blue-rinses isn't exactly the paragon of democracy. I for one am relieved that the party hasn't been given the chance to lurch even further to the right by electing Leadsom.
It's OK though, she can still put it on her CV.
It doesn't matter anyway - it's just something that opposition will try and use against her - fact is that May would have won with a huge amount of support from the Conservative MPs.
The leadership of the tories is irrelevant. The fact their manifesto doesn't state, in any way what-so-ever, the form that Brexit should take, is what makes all this anti-democratic.
It would still be anti-democratic even if the tories had a leadership contest. This just amplifies it.
i thought this was meant to be a comedy, why is everyone taking it so seriously? 🙄 😆
Just confirmed May will be Prime Minister on Wednesday
Whose turn is it on Thursday?
[url= http://order-order.com/2016/07/11/pm-hums-happy-tune-following-departure-announcement/ ]Cameron is humming a happy tune.[/url]
Cameron is humming a happy tune.
He must be so freakin relieved,
Theresa May now has to swallow the entire shit sandwich that is post Brexit UK
He must be so freakin relieved,
You are Lewis Hamilton and I claim my £5.
You are Lewis Hamilton and I claim my £5.
who do you think you are, the Taxman?,
Im off back home to Monacao
Theresa May now has to swallow the entire shit sandwich that is post Brexit UK
Are we up to Brexitageddon-ageddon-ageddon yet?
It is highly amusing to see all these demands for new referendums or a general election from those on the losing side of a democratic process.
The Tories have had a democratic leadership contest and one of the final two has decided to withdraw not least on the basis she knows she won't win the head to head vote. Pragmatic.
What's the plan, jamba?
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36767880?SThisFB#video-36767880 ]Time to chillax....[/url]