The bigger, fixed, LPG tanks do work out cheaper than the 57kg bottles though (ignoring installation costs, obvs)
not much - and speaking to the landlord the upkeep and maintenance responsibilities are passed to you + many houses don't even have suitable locations to site a bulk LPG tank.
suppliers wont take contract on your tank unless its fit for purpose you cant shop round like you do with oil.
Has anyone done it?
No, but in your shoes it would depend on the building and the land.
What's certain is that energy of any kind is going up in price.
I'd be looking at how easy it would be to massively reduce consumption by making the building itself more efficient, and then looking at PV, a heat pump (preferably ground source) and an out-building battery room.
I have to say, being a previous gas hob evangelist, we now have an induction one and think it’s great.
+1
Wow…. then you were done! Boilerjuice (who represent the maximum I’ll pay) are looking for 52ppl for 500L so 1000L would be less.
Not where I live, only 2 providers deliver - and that was the cheapest quote, the other quote was 67.2ppl.
I've just checked Boilerjuice for our postcode, and it's 66.4ppl for delivery on 30th Nov or 71.7ppl on 23rd Nov.
So I'll let you take it back, I wasn't "done", and Boilerjuice is never cheap IME where we are.
another +1 for modern induction hobs
And another
i like my induction hob - but cheap ones are shit ended up with an AEG hob as it was the only one we could find that had individual buttons and power setttings for each ring - most had a push to select ring then one power setting for all three.... total mare to cook with - and our previous induction was shit. It took a demo at the kitchen room to convince me not to fit dual propane tanks and a switch over for gas hob.
boiler juice is the last place ill look for oil it has in 14 years of using oil NEVER been cheaper than the local suppliers direct.
their graph is good for watching trends but they appear to be adding 3-4 pence/l cut onto the local companies prices.
but standard prices round here are about 60 pence right now for my area.
We fitted solar last year and have an immersion dump into oil heaters for the moment - when/if the grant boiler becomes unrepairable and/or the gov outlaws by taxation or otherwise oil - ill be putting a tank system in for hot water.
another +1 for modern induction hobs
I was very skeptical when we moved into our new place and it had one fitted. But I'm a total convert. Properly controllable in the same way as gas, instantaneous increase/reduction of heat, multiple plates to cook from for smaller and larger pans, a timer function and wipe clean in seconds.
Wouldn't change it now
I bought an AEG induction hob and installed it without consulting my better half precisely because she is so conservative she wouldn't agree to it.
Even she admits its better than gas. Really good for teaching little kids cooking too, since there are no naked flames.
We have no mains gas nor sewerage. House was heated with a multifuel stove with a back boiler but it was annoying - no heat when away for a weekend so home to stone cold house and hard to fine tune. We replaced it with a biomass boiler 5 or so years ago and haven't looked back. It's great and controllable from an app on the phone. We also have solar thermal and pv.
Theres a good energy cost comparison here :
https://nottenergy.com/resources/energy-cost-comparison/
We have a multifuel stove with back boiler that does heat and water duties.
It heats a water tank thermal store that then sends the water around radiators and gives mains pressure hot water.
It has immersion input so we can set the system to heat the house on electric when we are not using the fire more cheaply than our storage heaters and we can set it to warm the house remotely when we are away.
It can also accept solar and gas/oil boiler input but we don't use these.
If the house has a stove with back boiler this cost us less than £2.5k extra but it is a small house so only have six smallish radiators.
Yes, last year we moved into a house with no Mains Gas and only old storage heaters.
We had a cold and expensive winter and then got Mains Gas and CH installed in March.
We had gas in the street so connect was £800 and CH install (new boiler, new mixer shower, new pipes and radiators) was £8000.
Prices as at March 2021, in Scotland. Also got interest free loan from Home Energy Scotland to do this work on the condition we also got Cavity wall insulation.
So to help answer your question, can you afford to live as is?
Can you afford to improve insulation fit better / or cheaper to run / more eco alternatives?
I looked at both air source / ground source heat pumps but the costs didn't add up at the time.
i like my induction hob – but cheap ones are shit ended up with an AEG hob as it was the only one we could find that had individual buttons and power setttings for each ring – most had a push to select ring then one power setting for all three…. total mare to cook with
That sums up my experience of induction hobs so far - the controls/interface were utterly pathetic, seemingly designed by someone who doesn't actually cook. I expected there would be decent ones around with the individual ring controls, good to know.
I'd not be put off buying a house without mains gas, but equally I'd not go for any new install of anything gas, LPG or oil. We've currently got GCH and a gas hob. Hoping to replace a crappy/useless conservatory and flat-roofed extension at the back of the house in the next 5-8yrs, and at the time we'll get rid of gas. Not sure what route we'll take instead but we've got the time to wait and see what advancements are made in GSHP/ASHP and solar between now and then.
