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[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/diana-just-a-car-crash-or-a-murder-mystery-428355.html ]There are a few points which raise questions, that haven't been adequately addressed by the inquest[/url]:

[b]The CCTV cameras[/b]

There were more than 14 CCTV cameras in the Pont d'Alma underpass, yet none have recorded footage of the fatal collision.

Sources have claimed that they were turned to face the wall, or were simply switched off. The official French judicial enquiry into the crash was told that none of the cameras were working.

However, one motorist received a speeding ticket after being caught on a nearby camera 15 minutes before the accident.

[b]The Fiat Uno[/b]

A white Fiat Uno was seen to collide with the Mercedes as it entered the tunnel. Unexplained white paint was later found on the car's wreckage, and part of a bumper and tail-light were found near the scene of the crash.

An exhaustive database search of 112,000 similar Fiats never found the elusive car, and no driver came forward.

[b]James Andason[/b]

This French photographer, who had been following Diana and Dodi all Summer, was known to have owned a white Fiat Uno, which was sold and resprayed days after the crash. He was also a paid informant for both British and French intelligence, but insisted that he was not in Paris on the night of the accident.

Three years later, his charred remains were found in a locked car in remote farmland in the South of France.

[b]The bright light[/b]

In her memoir Spies, Lies and Whistleblowers, the former Mi5 agent Annie Machon claimed Brtitish intelligence paid to have Diana killed by shining a bright light at the car after it entered the tunnel, to prevent Paul seeing.

The operation would have borne similarities to an identical Mi6 plot aimed at assassinating Slobodan Milosevich during the 1990s. However, as a murder technique it is hazardous.

'some eye-witnesses have reported seeing a white flash at the time of the collission'

[b]The emergency services
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One of the largest concerns about Diana's death has been the length of time it took to extract her from the wreckage of the Mercedes.

Some experts have suggested that the Princess might have been saved if she had been operated on more rapidly.

[url= http://www.****/news/article-2407571/Princess-Diana-SAS-murder-claim--mad-think-says-SUE-REID.html ]Then of course there is the testimony of SAS involvement from Soldier N [/url]

and

[url= http://www.****/news/article-495189/Embalming-Diana-illegal-needed-Paris-heat.html ]the illegal premature embalming of Diana's body[/url]...


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 3:12 pm
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Diana? **** me! Does anybody actually care*

* Except the Daily Express who alternate their cover story between her and Madeline McCann ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 3:21 pm
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Well, I never the Daily Express has hacked this site.

22 seconds too slow


 
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Well, if you only keep them for 6 months from new then you wouldn't experience rust problems. The rust only sets in from month 7

2 years, 5 years and 4 years on this one, this one is now 11 years old. 2nd one had a rusty exhaust...

Maybe its my technique of hardly ever cleaning them that works well. If there's no green stuff forming around the wing mirrors, they don't need cleaning yet...


 
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Then of course there is the testimony of SAS involvement from Soldier N

you can see from that picture she didn't have her seatbelt on - maybe it was nobbled?


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 3:25 pm
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no rust on my last 3 alfas, you have to go back a fair way to find the rusting ones...

is it like those self destructing tapes in mission impossible. leave no evidence...


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 3:28 pm
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Binners + 1 ef&king Diana, should've been hanged as a traitor ๐Ÿ˜ˆ just for getting jiggy with Al Fayed's son


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 3:30 pm
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Stop derailing another thread Jive.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 3:33 pm
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Sadly, no matter how often jive repeats his theories, they never become true


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 3:34 pm
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Not my theories and not derailing a thread... just calling out bullshit, as per thread title...


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 3:35 pm
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You're not so please stop.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 3:38 pm
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Back on topic then...

UK Foreign Policy is based on protecting the Nation's citizens.

I call BS


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 3:40 pm
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Jimmy Saville had Diana killed. Everyone knows this!


 
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Thank you.


 
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Got anything to support that Jammers? Or is it just more Jambernomics that we just have to take at face value, because... well.. it just 'is'

This one's actually true. The amount may not be exactly right but the principal is, the average wage earner takes more out of "the system" than they put in directly via tax.

And some people like that stat, so they carefully ignore the fact that the tax an average earner pays is the smaller part of their total contribution. Their real value-added comes from the work they do. Which ironically is what allows other people to be paid more.

Yep, it's the one of the right of centre chants - "most tax payers" and how it's terribly unfair that those at the top are the only net contributors.

It's actually business and industry which 'makes up' the shortfall, because (RBS and HBOS aside) business shouldn't actually take anything from 'the pot'.


 
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Erastothenes calculated the circumference of the earth in 200 BC

That's not what I read. He calculated the correct figure, but he thought he was calculating the distance from the Earth to the Sun. He assumed the earth was a plane to calculate using parallax, but given it's not, and the sun is too far away to exhibit the effect he was looking for, he calculated the diameter of the earth instead.


 
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Got anything to support that Jammers? Or is it just more Jambernomics that we just have to take at face value, because... well.. it just 'is'

This one's actually true. The amount may not be exactly right but the principal is, the average wage earner takes more out of "the system" than they put in directly via tax.

And some people like that stat, so they carefully ignore the fact that the tax an average earner pays is the smaller part of their total contribution. Their real value-added comes from the work they do. Which ironically is what allows other people to be paid more.
Yep, it's the one of the right of centre chants - "most tax payers" and how it's terribly unfair that those at the top are the only net contributors.

It's actually business and industry which 'makes up' the shortfall, because (RBS and HBOS aside) business shouldn't actually take anything from 'the pot'.


Of course this ignores the fact that, per head, we generally take more out of the state than we put in. Which doesn't necessarily matter as money is an imaginary thing, and clearly there are enough people to do things/make things that we spend the money on...


 
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The operation would have borne similarities to an identical Mi6 plot aimed at assassinating Slobodan Milosevich during the 1990s. However, as a murder technique it is hazardous.

Murder techniques do tend to be hazardous for at least one person involved in the transaction...


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 4:24 pm
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The Labour party caused an international recession, the Tories would have regulated the banking industry better, and that the current government are reducing the deficit.

These are the most pernicious bits of BS that almost everyone seems to believe.


 
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Erastothenes calculated the circumference of the earth in 200 BC

That's not what I read. He calculated the correct figure, but he thought he was calculating the distance from the Earth to the Sun. He assumed the earth was a plane to calculate using parallax, but given it's not, and the sun is too far away to exhibit the effect he was looking for, he calculated the diameter of the earth instead.

Where did you read that nonsense - flatearth.com?

Erastothenes did also attempt to measure the distance from the earth to the sun, but understanding of astronomy / instrumentation wasn't sufficient for an accurate figure at the time - had to wait till the 1600s for that one.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 4:37 pm
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Kryton57 managed to get home before he crapped himself after eating a Phall curry!!
Hora is real.


 
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Where did you read that nonsense - flatearth.com?

A book by I think John Gribbin, or someone of his ilk maybe.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 5:24 pm
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Bob Holness played saxophone on "Baker Street".


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 5:26 pm
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50% divorce rate.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 5:27 pm
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Size doesn't matter.......until your wallpaper peels off.


 
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The idea that people once thought the world is flat is bollox, it's never been a widely-held belief.
Erastothenes calculated the circumference of the earth in 200 BC (without leaving Egypt ), so anyone educated has known the world is round since ancient times.

But bizarrely, in the age of YouTube and conspiracy theories, there are a growing number of people who genuinely believe that the world is flat and that the stars, sun, moon, ISS, space, NASA are all fake.

Because masons.

It's quite scary!

Boats and Erastothenes don't help either:


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 5:29 pm
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But bizarrely, in the age of YouTube and conspiracy theories, there are a growing number of people who genuinely believe that the world is flat and that the stars, sun, moon, ISS, space, NASA are all fake.

I doubt it is more prevalent, you just have a longer information reach than you used to.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 5:50 pm
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I can't believe we've got this far without mentioning global warming ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 5:53 pm
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Ninfan means what he says- then again not sure if anyone believes that

What mefty said

Its just easier to meet nobheads on the internet than in the real world as the internet lets you interact with millions/billions at a time


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 5:53 pm
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Ninfan means what he says

Jambalaya too


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 5:56 pm
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I doubt it is more prevalent, you just have a longer information reach than you used to.

That's true - but it also means the flat-earthers also have a longer information reach and so they are more likely to reinforce each others wavering beliefs and convert people to their cause. And so it becomes more prevalent.

Which is basically what Junkyard said ๐Ÿ˜€


 
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Ninfan means what he says- then again not sure if anyone believes that

I believe that the best way to keep people guessing is by never being quite sure myself ๐Ÿ˜†


 
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๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 6:13 pm
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Great post on Diana from jhj btw, don't think he was derailing the thread. It was just missing a single 'makes you think' at the end in order to please for all your fans.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 6:25 pm
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I can't believe we've got this far without mentioning global warming

It was tempting!!


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 6:59 pm
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That '-ize' is an Americanism


 
Posted : 25/11/2015 10:34 am
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I can't believe we've got this far without mentioning global warming

which no-one seems particularly worried about considering how the fires in Indonesia are being allowed to go on for so long and without much of an outcry...


 
Posted : 25/11/2015 10:37 am
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That '-ize' is an Americanism

That's one of my favourite bits of pedantry to bust out. Yes I am a riot at parties.


 
Posted : 25/11/2015 6:20 pm
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That Grum gets invited to parties.

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The long term economic plan.


 
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