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Basking sharks hibernating on the ocean floor during the winter, they don't.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2785-basking-shark-hibernation-a-fishy-tale/


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 10:54 am
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Well if we're going down the road of taxation.

"higher earners pay twice the rate of income tax as lower earners"

Aside from the fact that we all pay the same rate at the various levels of income one little nugget the most moaners miss is that at the same level that income tax goes from 20% to 40% NI drops from 12% to 2% so really total deductions go from 32% to 42%, add in the fact that unless you're doing very well the majority of your income is taxed at the same rate as everyone else - the difference is actually negligible.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 10:57 am
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The 'food triangle'....?

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Posted : 24/11/2015 10:58 am
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And in fact proves the concept of the thread quite well.

That people believe bullshit made to mislead them?

Panorama certainly did a good job on the weak minded...


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 10:58 am
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binners winz dafred

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Posted : 24/11/2015 11:25 am
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Well if we're going down the road of taxation.

"higher earners pay twice the rate of income tax as lower earners"

Aside from the fact that we all pay the same rate at the various levels of income one little nugget the most moaners miss is that at the same level that income tax goes from 20% to 40% NI drops from 12% to 2% so really total deductions go from 32% to 42%, add in the fact that unless you're doing very well the majority of your income is taxed at the same rate as everyone else - the difference is actually negligible.

Push it further, and beyond £100k you lose your personal allowance in stages, so abouve £100k life becomes almost unbearable due to taxation alledgedly.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 11:30 am
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House prices will go up for ever and ever and ever and never ever fall again. Ever. Amen
Leveraged BTL is a foolproof, guaranteed investment rather than a speculative gamble based on historically low interest rates which will never ever go up. Ever.
We'll never ever have to pay off all the debt we're in and it's all ok so long as we can afford the monthly repayments...


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 11:34 am
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Push it further, and beyond £100k you lose your personal allowance in stages, so abouve £100k life becomes almost unbearable due to taxation alledgedly.

Bit of a straw man there. I don't know of anyone who said anything like that although it is the case that if you are earning just over the £100k it makes good financial sense to do whatever you can within the law to reduce your gross income to less than that figure.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 11:37 am
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Welshfarmer,

If I keep saying its true, it will become a meme, correct ... ?


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 11:46 am
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Can't seem to turn on the news these days without hearing some politician repeat that if someone has somehow been identified as being involved in terrorist activities that the government would somehow be remiss in its duties if it didn't go bomb the shit out of them regardless of nationality or what country they happen to be in, without any sort of trial or publication of evidence.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 11:51 am
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Bit of a straw man there. I don't know of anyone who said anything like that although it is the case that if you are earning just over the £100k it makes good financial sense to do whatever you can within the law to reduce your gross income to less than that figure.

Indeed. I had this conversation in the office and it went two ways:

a) General advice - stick anything that approaches 100k and beyond into your salary sacrifice pension - for sake of argument - at work, so you only "take home" 100k but the rest goes into your potential future.

b) Even every 50p in every £1 is a contribution toward a new <insert essential purchase item here> should I need the money available.

Note we are not talking my salary here fwiw..!


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 11:51 am
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a) General advice - stick anything that approaches 100k and beyond into your salary sacrifice pension - for sake of argument - at work, so you only "take home" 100k but the rest goes into your potential future.

Yeah that's exactly what I did, although it needn't be a salary sacrifice scheme; any pension scheme will do the same job you just need to wait a little longer to get the cash. Other sacrifice schemes like buying additional leave will do the same thing.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 11:55 am
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That people believe bullshit made to mislead them?

Absolutely.

Couple of good examples.

http://www.davidicke.com/

http://www.infowars.com

Lots of stuff for sale on both those sites, and lots of advertising revenue.
There's a shed load of money to be made spreading "the truth"


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 11:57 am
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Push it further, and beyond £100k you lose your personal allowance in stages, so abouve £100k life becomes almost unbearable due to taxation alledgedly.

Quite - as we have seen recently, people have complained to the Telegraph about how earning a fortune has left them in penury.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 12:01 pm
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If you remove a pen drive from a computer before closing it properly, the e-horsemen of the apocolypse will be unleashed and will do untold damage... I've tried it - it doesn't.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 12:17 pm
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was going to say "trickle down economics" but already covered

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Trickle Down' economics
The existence of the theory of "Trickle Down" economics - see here for discussion.

[url] http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/04/sorry-but-trickle-down-economics-doesnt-exist-and-never-has-done/ [/url]"

now I'm lost - trickle down never existed and there are articles that tell me that - if there are multiple articles I guess that makes it true?


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 12:19 pm
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trailhound101

If you remove a pen drive from a computer before closing it properly, the e-horsemen of the apocolypse will be unleashed and will do untold damage... I've tried it - it doesn't.

That can actually happen.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 12:19 pm
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Boost 148.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 12:20 pm
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The idea that people once thought the world is flat is bollox, it's never been a widely-held belief.

Erastothenes calculated the circumference of the earth in 200 BC (without leaving Egypt 8) ), so anyone educated has known the world is round since ancient times. But even an illiterate peasant would appreciate it if they lived by the sea, and know for a fact if they ever saw / sailed a boat.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 12:20 pm
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Lots of stuff for sale on both those sites, and lots of advertising revenue.
There's a shed load of money to be made spreading "the truth"

It's a tricky one~ not sure if it's a money making enterprise, or a means of sustaining their work, but you do have a fair point... surely if truths of such significance were being revealed, someone would do it for free, for the common good...

That said, the money made trying to prevent war pales in comparison to the money made by those who make war...

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Posted : 24/11/2015 12:27 pm
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If you remove a pen drive from a computer before closing it properly, the e-horsemen of the apocolypse will be unleashed and will do untold damage... I've tried it - it doesn't.

I have lost data this way. I usually format my USB drives to write data instantly so that you can just unplug them. One drive I forgot to, then did indeed lose data.

You [b]can [/b]lose data, doesn't mean you [b]will[/b]. Likely OS's have improved since XP too and don't write data to removable drives like they used to.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 12:33 pm
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Knee over bullshit
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/kops.html

6 degrees of bullshit
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/more_or_less/5176698.stm


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 12:34 pm
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The idea that people once thought the world is flat is bollox, it's never been a widely-held belief.

ain't that a kick in the head


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 12:40 pm
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"Turkey is a democracy."

Next in lines is "Turkey is ready to join the EU".


 
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Why is Adam Sandler talking to Prince Andrew and hasn't he turned grey. Makes you think?


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 12:48 pm
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[quote=GrahamS ]

NiMH cells remember how much they've been discharged

Sort of.

I'll make a note for when I next put batteries in a spacecraft equipped with solar panels experiencing a day/night cycle.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 12:58 pm
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Bears can't run downhill

Dogs can't look up

The moon landings...


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 1:08 pm
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it's all Li-Ion for spacecraft batteries now. Just for the avoidance of doubt, given the thread title, that's not BS that's become "fact".


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 1:10 pm
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The bloke out of Red Dwarf who was on Robot Wars was convicted of rape.

He wasn't.

Something the press have a poor record with (on the very long list of poor practices) is giving coverage of the allegations in court cases but not following that up later with the verdict. Not just in cases where theres a celebrity involved but just any ordinary joe where the papers think the allegations are entertaining enough to publish - they have the all the extremes of the allegations made against them published nationally. But if those allegations prove to be groundless, or if the most salacious aspects are dropped by the prosecution, or if the defendant is found innocent the papers don't bother to publish.

I don't know if the record has improved of late but about 10 years ago the UK papers were only reporting the verdict of about 1 in 10 of the court cases they'd given coverage to.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 1:15 pm
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Reminds me of the Diana inquest, the verdict of which was [b]Unlawful Killing[/b]...

This is an interesting watch, though not unbiased:


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 1:18 pm
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Captain Pugwash [u]didn't[/u] actually have any characters named after euphemisms.. Seaman Staines, Roger the Cabin boy etc didn't exist, despite everyone "remembering" them..

[url= http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/captain-pugwash-creator-traumatised-urban-5896636 ]http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/captain-pugwash-creator-traumatised-urban-5896636[/url]


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 1:31 pm
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the previous generation of Alfa Romeos suffered from terrible rust which this new model addresses...


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 1:35 pm
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Well half of that statement is true


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 1:51 pm
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Clint Eastwood is Stan laurels son.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 2:00 pm
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Reminds me of the Diana inquest, the verdict of which was [b]Unlawful Killing...[/b]

Which was widely reported at the time as far as I remember.

The only thing that relates to the theme of this thread about the whole Diana thing, is that people have said it wasn't just a car crash so often, it's become a "fact" to some people.

Also, You've missed out the bit of the verdict after "unlawful killing" and replaced it with a few dots.

Any reason for that ?


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 2:00 pm
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Reminds me of the Diana inquest, the verdict of which was Unlawful Killing...

the bit after the ... is "through grossly negligent driving"
No need to derail another entertaining thread.

There are some genuinely enlightening busted myths so far (for me anyway).

Edit: I see someone beat me to it 🙂


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 2:01 pm
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the bit after the ... is "through grossly negligent driving"

and not wearing her seatbelt...


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 2:17 pm
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Well half of that statement is true

no rust on my last 3 alfas, you have to go back a fair way to find the rusting ones...


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 2:18 pm
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it's all Li-Ion for spacecraft batteries now. Just for the avoidance of doubt, given the thread title, that's not BS that's become "fact".

It's why they keep blowing up in the kitchen


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 2:39 pm
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no rust on my last 3 alfas, you have to go back a fair way to find the rusting ones...

Well, if you only keep them for 6 months from new then you wouldn't experience rust problems. The rust only sets in from month 7. 😉


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 2:41 pm
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Got anything to support that Jammers? Or is it just more Jambernomics that we just have to take at face value, because... well.. it just 'is'

This one's actually true. The amount may not be exactly right but the principal is, the average wage earner takes more out of "the system" than they put in directly via tax.

And some people like that stat, so they carefully ignore the fact that the tax an average earner pays is the smaller part of their total contribution. Their real value-added comes from the work they do. Which ironically is what allows other people to be paid more.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 2:46 pm
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Long Range Weather Forcasts predicting coldest winter in years, presumably spun to hike gas futures, we had one last year and again this.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 2:50 pm
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no rust on my last 3 alfas, you have to go back a fair way to find the rusting ones..

There was no rust on my 159 when I owned it, but I'd be confident there is now.


 
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