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It's time for the 2nd edition of cynic-al's "BS of the week" thread, where bunkum and nonsense are celebrated. This week...

Aluminium does lack sufficient fracture toughness, for bike frames.

...is my favourite. Of course I won't identify the poster.

What's yours?


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 1:21 pm
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what's BS?


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 1:31 pm
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While I'm certain it was very much tongue in cheek, sfb's camera observation.

[i]"50mm is still 50mm and I'm not sure 4 times as much light and less depth of field is that much difference."[/i]


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 1:31 pm
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BS = B S


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 1:32 pm
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BS = bullshine.

Some of the diet stuff again was rather amusing.


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 1:32 pm
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The argueing over 1x9 chainlines.

But there is to much BS on this forum, most of which makes me laugh.


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 1:36 pm
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*randomly picks a thread*

Yup, there's BS in there.


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 3:50 pm
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sign language can be rather inventive and I especially like this
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Posted : 02/07/2010 3:53 pm
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It weighs 22lb.


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 3:57 pm
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most of this thread

[url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/audi-allroad-or-a4-estate-whats-the-difference ]a4 or A6 allroad what's the difference[/url]

god help anyone asking for car advise on here


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 3:58 pm
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Oh this pic was a highlight 😀

[img] http://lh6.ggpht.com/_NatZ15w0GLM/TCqE-Qv26bI/AAAAAAAAARU/SaLIR_dfX2E/s800/P1020409 [/img]


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 4:19 pm
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can i nominate the "england footballers rape and pillage, its true, i read it on the internerd" thread.


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 4:27 pm
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Good Christ. I missed that picture. That is the worst looking bike I have seen...was it from here?


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 4:30 pm
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So is this the armchair warriors smartar5e geek thread?

Thought so.


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 5:29 pm
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Any thread with SPOILER in the title.
WTF is that all about?
If people are interested enough in something they'll find out about in real time.
It's happened...knowing about it sooner or later does not change that! 8)


 
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BS of the week?

Any internet post where the poster categorises others as "armchair warriors" while posting something critical about them, probably from his armchair.


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 6:15 pm
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So is this the armchair warriors smartar5e geek thread?

Thought so.

What took you so long to get here?


 
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I'm posting from an office chair actually. Apparently an "executive" one according to Staples... 😉

Come on though - this is a thread to pick at others using geek levels of pedantry.

Not really that good is it?


 
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Well Surf-Mat...you can't be that much of an "executive" or you wouldn't be posting from the office at gone 7pm on a Friday night. 8)


 
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Having my ****ing bike stolen on Tuesday was SH*T [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/recognise-anyone-bike-theft-enquiry-giant-defy-4-advanced-romsterjejames ]linky[/url], not BS i must admit, but a big fat dirty smelly dollop of SH*T end to my day Tuesday, and pretty much set me up for a SH*T week!

I thought this warranted being on the BS thread cynic, taking into account the amount of SH*T that was involved.....


 
Posted : 02/07/2010 6:39 pm
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So is this the armchair warriors smartar5e geek thread?
Thought so.

More like a bit of a laugh, but if you need to take it seriously that's up to you.


 
Posted : 03/07/2010 1:32 pm
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Any internet post where the poster categorises others as "armchair warriors"

Especially when said poster has a habit of using such terms...


 
Posted : 03/07/2010 2:57 pm
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Back on topic, I can't be bothered finding a specific instance, but it comes up often enough: "aluminium frames really beat me up - steel is so much more comfortable".


 
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here's one

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The phrase "look dope" in the context of a nice suburban garden just doesn't fit for me


 
Posted : 03/07/2010 3:59 pm
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Oh well I guess you are white, middle class and identify with gangsta rappers?


 
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One for your collection Al - and possibly a poster to look out for. displays a fine lack of knowledge, punctuation and coherence

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hahahaha! listening to all you guys with the know how, sitting there in front of your computer screens telling how to ride steep tech stuff when in actual fact if i put you in front of some of the stuff we ride you'd shit yourself !!! iv took people like you out before, jedi and tj, ha ha stick to your black routed trail centres!!


 
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That last post makes this entire thread worthwhile.


 
Posted : 03/07/2010 8:05 pm
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Gotta be Mark Datz.


 
Posted : 03/07/2010 11:30 pm
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[img] [/img]


 
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Oh well I guess you are white, middle class and identify with gangsta rappers?

Have we met? blud


 
Posted : 04/07/2010 11:49 am
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The phrase "look dope" has one of two meanings:

1) "I say, it would appear that gentleman standing nearby is smoking marajuana."

2) "Hi, I'm 12."


 
Posted : 04/07/2010 12:00 pm
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If counterculture slang didn't piss off the squares, it wouldn't be doing its job.


 
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I'll have you know, I'm home with the downies.


 
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If counterculture slang didn't piss off the squares, it wouldn't be doing its job.

lol wait to your 40s


 
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If counterculture slang didn't piss off the squares, it wouldn't be doing its job.

lol wait to your 40s

Word.


 
Posted : 04/07/2010 12:23 pm
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"Gnarly". Does my nut in every time I see it.


 
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referring to people as squares is so 1970s


 
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'Does my nut in' is annoying every time i see it.

Gibbon.


 
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lol wait to your 40s

Can't go back in time, laddie...


 
Posted : 04/07/2010 1:28 pm
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What is [i]fracture toughness[/i] anyway? 😆


 
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On the TdF commentary just now, in response to a question about using helium in tyres:

"they do use helium in tyres for downhill mountain biking because it compresses more evenly"


 
Posted : 04/07/2010 2:49 pm
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Look another one

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Oh well I guess you are white, middle class and identify with gangsta rappers?

i'm guessing you are indeed sir... a..

[IMG] [/IMG]


 
Posted : 04/07/2010 3:12 pm
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Ha, that is amazing. Helium compressing more evenly... Did they also say it can help you jump further.


 
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helium compressing more evenly: any pure gas will have more predictable compression and expansion properties than a mixture such as air. Helium would be a poor choice because is is a small molecule and escapes well. Nitrogen is pretty well accepted in formula 1 tyres.
so maybe not total bullsh1t, more like lazy reporting


 
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I'd be very interested in the science behind that theory, do you have a reference?


 
Posted : 05/07/2010 8:28 am
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any pure gas will have more predictable compression and expansion properties than a mixture such as air

*s****s*


 
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helium compressing more evenly: any pure gas will have more predictable compression and expansion properties than a mixture such as air

Can I make this my BS of the week please..


 
Posted : 05/07/2010 9:07 am
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Sorry Basspine you will have to wait until this week;'s edition of the thread.


 
Posted : 05/07/2010 9:09 am
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I'll have to remember that one for my next crash.
"It's not my fault, the air in my tyres compressed unevenly"


 
Posted : 05/07/2010 9:43 am
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We're talking about linearity rather than predictability, aren't we?


 
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I love the way this thread has become self perpetuating.


 
Posted : 05/07/2010 10:25 am
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This thread should be on the wiki page for stw forum.

It's so dope, it's gnarly. Right I'm off to bust a move to meet my homies and rail some rad, sick pipes. laters.


 
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What tyres for filling with helium for predictable compression and expansion? It's getting to the point where I don't even bother going out on my bike any more due to the unpredictability of it all. 🙁


 
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so - why do FI cars use nitrogen? There is some sort of advantage in doing so I believe

helium would make your bike weigh less ( but mass the almost the same )


 
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TJ [url= http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nitrogen+in+car+tyres ]google is your friend [/url]


 
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We've done nitrogen and helium in tyres before, haven't we ?
Nitrogen was touted for truck tyres a while ago because of the reduced change in pressure with temperature.
It never caught on. For vehicles that have already got air brakes and air suspension, On Board Tyre Inflation linked to the vehicle's ECU is a much better idea, constantly adjusting tyre pressures to suit vehicle speed and load.


 
Posted : 05/07/2010 12:52 pm
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This thread perfectly encapsulates everything that I hate about STW. Good job!


 
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This thread perfectly encapsulates everything that I hate about STW. Good job!

+1000000000


 
Posted : 05/07/2010 1:04 pm
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I'm gonna make it a weekly feature.

Along with a "pwned of the week" - I anticipate Surf Mat will feature heavily.


 
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Any thread with SPOILER in the title.

That's because they are threads about sporting events or films on which the ending of the subject matter may be discussed. The warning is there so that anyone interested in the subject but as yet not aware of the outcome or ending doesn't accidentally click on it and have that ending or outcome spoiled.

Seems fair to me.


 
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Cross bikes have slacker seat angles, which means less power on the pedals...


 
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That's not bs! Definitely easier to get the power down when you're sat more forward. Well known f-a-c-t.


 
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helium would make your bike weigh less ( but mass the almost the same )
😯
is it gravity that changes, then TJ


 
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anything davidtayford writes , pure bs


 
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I was about to accuse scaredypants of a Physics fail, then I started typing and I remembered thermodynamics.. but I was always rubbish at it..

PV = nRT

So if P and V are the same (same pressure in your tyres, same R and temperature, then n must be the same too right? Or almost the same.. because they'd both be similar to an ideal gas...

But n moles of helium would have less mass than n moles of air, by fair bit since a mole of helium is only 4g and a mole of air would be what.. 15g ish? So the density of gas in your tyres would indeed be much lower hence reducing the weight (due to buoyancy) and the mass would be significantly less, around a quarter.

So maybe scaredypants was a physics fail. Or maybe it's me.. 🙂


 
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Here's another one:

Definitely easier to get the power down when you're sat more forward. Well known f-a-c-t.

How come road riders don't use triathlon style steep seat tubes if it's that much of an advantage?


 
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So maybe scaredypants was a physics fail

clearly - if you can see why (under same gravity) mass is almost the same but weight is less, you're a better phyicist than me


 
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A helium balloon has no weight but it still has mass.


 
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Err, no.

A helium balloon has mass and weight (whilst its within a gravitational field). But it has bouyancy in Earth's denser atmosphere causing it to rise.


 
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I thought weight was what you measured on a set of scales?

a balloon full of helium has no weight surely - even tho it has mass.

Rest it on a set of scales the scales read zero.


 
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I was just thinking that,positive bouyancy rather than no weight,Helium weighs 0.1785 grams per liter, so a ballon full of helium can't have no weight.


 
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"Rest it on a set of scales the scales read zero."

yup, but if you have scales accurate enough and weigh a liter bottle of air, you will get the weight of the bottle plus the weight of the air shown on the scales.

If you then measure exactly the same bottle with a liter of helium in it, the helium will weigh less than the air, so you'll get a different reading.


 
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it has a mass of 0.1785 grammes per litre.

Does it have any weight? or is it only when in orbit it has no weight?

Wiki

Weight, by definition, is a measure of the force which must be applied to support an object (i.e. hold it at rest) in a gravitational field. The Earth’s gravitational field causes items near the Earth to have weight.

But the helium balloon does not require any force to support it in a gravitational field. Does it have weigt? or only mass?

I have convincingly confused myself now


 
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"But the helium balloon does not require any force to support it in a gravitational field"

It does require a force to support it, which is provided by its buoyancy. Just because nothing's visibly holding it up doesn't mean nothing's holding it up. If you put it in a vacuum jar and put it on a scale, what would the scale show? (well, the baloon would burst)


 
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I thought weight was what you measured on a set of scales?

Interesting theory. So the QE2 would weigh nothing.....until it sunk, and gravity pulled it to the bottom of the ocean ?


 
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I guess if you put the scales and the helium balloon into a vacuum, then it would register a reading no?


 
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In a world of Hydrogen, Helium is the fat bastard.


 
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My head hurts.

I guess if you put the scales and the helium balloon into a vacuum, then it would register a reading no?

yes it would

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Interesting theory. So the QE2 would weigh nothing.....until it sunk, and gravity pulled it to the bottom of the ocean ?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

My head really hurts now


 
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Ernie's example is way better than mine 🙁 But at least I got there before Deadlydarcy!


 
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Basically, forget about scales. The only time that'll ever cause you a problem is if you're baking a cake that has lighter than air ingredients (in which case just turn the scales upside down)


 
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