Is that the best you can do @dannyh ?
You really are a vile individual.
You don’t get to be offended by someone pointing out the stupidity of voting for Brexit, especially if it negatively impacts your quality of life. I’m fed up of leavers acting all butt hurt because they don’t like us nasty remainers pointing out that you broke it, you own it.
I’ll tell you who can be offended by Brexit, my Finnish wife who no longer feels welcome in this country amid an increasingly nationalistic and right wing populist nation, or even me, an owner of a business that that exports the vast majority of its services and STILL doesn’t know what financial impact this absolute bit of a mess will have on my business and employees.
It’s not vile to point out the stupidity of voting for Brexit, it’s vile to have voted for it in the first place, and legitimised the nasty, insular racist rhetoric that factions of the media and the English population now feel emboldened to spread.
Anyway, I don't know what the Brexies are so antsy about.
I mean, all that has to happen is for Brexit to be a roaring success. A success that creates jobs and wealth rather than destroying them. Piece of piss. And that would mean the likes of me shutting my gob forever about it.
Many of the Brexies seem confident it is the best ****ing thing since sliced bread, so they don't need to be so angry as they are going to be ones saying 'I told you so', right? Nothing to worry about.
It might happen. But then a squadron of low flying pigs might roar overhead any minute too.
Can you let me know what will happen to my elderly fathers healthcare?He lives in Spain and is completely reliant on reciprocal healthcare agreements.
Thanks.
I believe that is ok - as long as he stays put. The withdrawal agreement agreed healthcare for life (for existing residents) - https://www.thelocal.es/20200128/brexit-four-rights-for-brits-in-spain-that-are-guaranteed-with-withdrawal-agreement
Can you let me know what will happen to my elderly fathers healthcare?
He lives in Spain and is completely reliant on reciprocal healthcare agreements.
Thanks.
No he can’t. That would mean knowing stuff about the detail.
But if he does try it will be a load of words that could be neatly summarised as “I’m sure we’ll sort something out”.
I’m in the same position , I actually think that Brexit was an act of total selfishness,there was clarity on all these things before but now No ones got a scooby doo.
I’ll tell you who can be offended by Brexit, my Finnish wife who no longer feels welcome in this country amid an increasingly nationalistic and right wing populist nation, or even me, an owner of a business that that exports the vast majority of its services and STILL doesn’t know what financial impact this absolute bit of a mess will have on my business and employees.
I have a few Finnish friends, yes, they ain't my spouse etc but I can tell you many Finnish don't think exactly like you think they are. They are trying to comply with the EU system but they are not that happy put it this way, they can bear with it but for how long we don't know. For Finland they join EU partly because they just want to keep a safe distance from their mortal invaders from the east.
What I am trying to say is that you cannot expect 100% of the people to welcome everyone coz that will be a silly assumption.
I have a few Finnish friends, yes, they ain’t my spouse etc but I can tell you many Finnish don’t think exactly like you think they are. They are trying to comply with the EU system but they are not that happy put it this way, they can bear with it but for how long we don’t know. For Finland they join EU partly because they just want to keep a safe distance from their mortal invaders from the east.
And this sums up Brexiters in a nutshell. You know a few Finns apparently that aren’t happy with the EU, well I know or I am related to hundreds that will call that utter bollocks.
Some of my best friends are Finns. 😂
And this sums up Brexiters in a nutshell. You know a few Finns apparently that aren’t happy with the EU, well I know or I am related to hundreds that will call that utter bollocks.
Yeah, but some bloke down the pub says that we aren't allowed bendy bananas.
Also, you don't need to be Finnish to call that utter bollocks.
And this sums up Brexiters in a nutshell. You know a few Finns apparently that aren’t happy with the EU, well I know or I am related to hundreds that will call that utter bollocks.
That is my own experience and my friends are from Turku and Helsinki. You know perfectly well how they make jokes of each other even in their own country. "Oh ya ... he is from Turku they are weird" replied my friend from Helsinki. I asked why but I got funny answers.
Some of my best friends are Finns. 😂
I have friends but I have only few best friends that I grew up with (in other parts of the world).
However, I have some good friends from all over the world.
Just been watching Dominic Raaabbb on Andrew Marr he seems nervous and not very convincing. Like he doesn't believe what he saying himself.
I believe that is ok – as long as he stays put. The withdrawal agreement agreed healthcare for life (for existing residents)
The CHEAP words of a member of the British government though.. Any Spanish source?
How effective has our British American ambassador been in extradition of that woman who falsely claimed diplomatic imunity after causing death by dangerous driving?
With the UK Gov making it very awkward for EU nationals in the UK, what if the UK denies reciprocal healthcare to EU citizens after the WA period ?
You think that won't change thier attitude?
Nothing has been legally agreed, it's all just 'trust us, it'll be fine'...
... From a bunch of people who have repeatedly proven to be completely untrustworthy.
Just been watching Dominic Raaabbb on Andrew Marr he seems nervous and not very convincing. Like he doesn’t believe what he saying himself.
It is starting to dawn on them.
Another absolute priority is making sure these bastards carry the can for what they have done.
They know the damage this is going to do, but they proceeded and told lies to enable it.
I call it 'treason'.
Poundshop Trump
He isn’t Poundshop Trump.
He’s Poundshop Berlusconi.
Just been watching Dominic Raaabbb on Andrew Marr he seems nervous and not very convincing. Like he doesn’t believe what he saying himself.
Is that because he’s telling whoppers and knows that it’ll be screengrabbed and used against him?
Just been watching Dominic Raaabbb on Andrew Marr he seems nervous and not very convincing. Like he doesn’t believe what he saying himself.
Also, everything in politics is a double edged sword to some extent.
The Tories' majority cuts off a line of retreat for them. Much more difficult to say "we didn't get the deals we wanted because of remainer obstruction in parliament".
. We have no trade deals currently, we only have 11 months to negotiate loads of deals,
We have less time than that, the deal has to be ratified by EU Parliament before the end of the year. Negotiations start in March(!) I make that around 7 months max. I still have my paddle but the creek is full of ordure and I don't have firm grasp of the means of propulsion.
Edit. The Finns, a nation that knows what it is like to try and hold a much larger neighbour at bay.
He’s Poundshop Berlusconi.
Poundshop Von Papen more like.
Trade Secretary Liam Fox:
“We’re going to replicate the 40 EU free trade agreements that exist before we leave the European Union, so we’ve got no disruption of trade,”
“I hear people saying ‘oh we won’t have any [free trade agreements] before we leave.’ Well, believe me, we’ll have up to 40 ready for one second after midnight in March 2019,” said Fox to cheering Tory activists.
“All these faint hearts saying we cannot do it"
Now we've got Liz Truss.. How many trade agreements has she ratified?
Poundshop ...
What is wrong with Poundshop?
Drac : Thats the vid i linked to in my post on page 4/15hrs ago, utterly disgusting behaviour by rats that have crawled out of the sewers now that it is deemed acceptable to be overtly racist, there is far-far worse than that if you explore the many brexit tweets.
We have to realign the people’s future anger not at one another but at the people who preside over this.
That's not how it works currently, the tories are very good at the divide and conquer tactic, they sold council houses cheaply to people to make them homeowners, making tory voters out of some of the working class as it was back then, they created the need for foodbanks...why is that division you might say? well, there's a new class of people around to sh*t upon, everybody likes to do that to people on the ladder rung below them, and of course Brexit. Divide the country up, **** the consequences because we are still in power.
Election promise:
Mr Javid said: "No department will be cut next year. Every single department has had its budget for day to day spending increased at least in line with inflation.
"That's what I mean by the end of austerity."
Post election:
he wrote to cabinet ministers, asking them to draw up cuts of up to 5% of their spending plans.
They’ve been told to go through their budgets “line by line” and be ready to justify any spending plans and projects they want to keep.
In the note, Mr Javid wrote: “We have been elected with a clear fiscal mandate to keep control of day to day spending.
“This means there will need to be savings made across government to free up money to invest in our priorities.”
Draw your own conclusions.
Divide the country up, **** the consequences because we are still in power.
Exactamundo But now they’ve no one Left to blame and are on the hook to deliver something and they can’t blame remainers,the opposition or the eu.
They’ve no-one left to divide but their own mps 🙂
What is wrong with Poundshop?
Most of the goods are of inferior quality. Whether or not the VALUE is better or worse is more subjective.
Anyway, stop trying to derail the thread by being obtuse.
This thread is going down the crapper based on some of the vituperative posts above.
No-one who voted in the referendum knew how a leave majority would translate into policy, trade deals etc.
Each side lied about the other and there was an absence of demonstrable facts; many/most leavers (probably) voted based on instinct, re-inforced by their news source of choice.
In my view at the time, in event of a leave vote only two things could be said with any certainty:
i) the 27 would not be accommodating; why would they? The balance of power would sit with them and they would use it to their advantage
ii) any suggestion that undoing 47 years of integration would be straightforward was clearly
delusional
Since then the problems and downsides have become increasingly clear.
Some leave voters see Brexit as a vindication of their views and has empowered them to unmask their previously hidden xenophobic, racist views.
The process of johnson & co walking back 'commitments' has already started and will continue steadily.
Right wing press are shifting blame onto the EU - they won't give us what we want, complain, whinge, stoke the divisions which are now clear; that will be lapped up by leavers - not all but a high %-age.
When things go wrong it's always good to shift the blame - and not to ask pointed questions which would expose uncomfortable truths.
So johnson wants - and expects to get - a Canada style trade agreement with the EU; the EU will, rightly, extract significant concessions before giving any ground - on anything.
This tory gov completely own everything that will result from this and no-one should be allowed to forget that.
Vociferous/influential leave voters own this as much as the gov.
As for the rest of the leave voters, they will have years to reflect on the consequences of their vote.
As for the posters in Norwich council tower block, let's hope there's a CCTV system so the police can review and act. If a resident is responsible, council should evict them and refuse to re-house.
dannyh
Member
Anyway, I don’t know what the Brexies are so antsy about.
I mean, all that has to happen is for Brexit to be a roaring success. A success that creates jobs and wealth rather than destroying them. Piece of piss. And that would mean the likes of me shutting my gob forever about it.
Honestly this a million times. Boris Johnston doesn't think brexit is going to be a success. The tory press that campaigned for it don't think it's going to be a success. If they did, they would be smugly waiting to be proved right. Instead they're already moving onto the next stage, Blaming Johnny Foreigner.
And there's a pretty good chance that this'll work. But it's insane.
Promoting hate speech on a cycling website ain't gonna help nobodies daddy in Spain I'm afraid so people need to get a grip.
Over the next few decades we can take back control from the shortsighted and become a more outward looking country.
The poorly educated whooped us this time but that implies there is a serious problem with education, let's fix that first. Onward and upward, the battle for a better UK has begun.
Each side lied about the other
Example where Remain lied about Leave, please....
Over the next few decades we can take back control from the shortsighted and become a more outward looking country.
Why wait?
Education takes time man.
As for the posters in Norwich council tower block, let’s hope there’s a CCTV system so the police can review and act. If a resident is responsible, council should evict them and refuse to re-house.
I noticed that one of them partially obscured a fire door sign. I would be looking at a charge along the lines of endangering lives. Nothing wrong with a bit of creativity in this case methinks.
Education takes time man.
Education is a waste of time if you aren't receptive to it or capable of adapting it for critical thought, man.
Over the next few decades we can take back control from the shortsighted and become a more outward looking country.
The poorly educated whooped us this time but that implies there is a serious problem with education, let’s fix that first. Onward and upward, the battle for a better UK has begun.
You're calling @cinnamon_girl short-sighted and/or poorly educated but don't want to promote hate speech?
Over the next few decades we can take back control from the shortsighted and become a more outward looking country.
"Take back control", I like the sound of that! It's a shame we literally gave it away the day before the weekend.
A little perspective scotroutes please
If we gave it away Pondo then we can take it back, the journey is long.
Actually my last post was shit.
I've been drawn into being argumentative for the hell of it. Not the first time, won't be the last.
I'm going to concentrate on the rugby for a bit.
If we gave it away Pondo then we can take it back, the journey is long.
Awesome! Long and totally unnecessary! I was really depressed about Brexit but now you've cheered me right up. 🙂
Promoting hate speech on a cycling website ain’t gonna help nobodies daddy in Spain I’m afraid so people need to get a grip.
I take offence to that.. Who's promoting hate speech other than those that blindly want brexit?
Give me some facts.
One thing i find ironic is the promotion of the Union flag,presumably by Brexiteers. If ever there is a chance of the union flag being consigned to history it's due to the actions of so called Unionists..
This thread is going down the crapper based on some of the vituperative posts above.
100% it's total c$%p now, shut it down and reopen MG's thread. This is beyond the pail regardless of the morons on the vide.
Dry your tears, snowflake.
Promoting hate speech on a cycling website ain’t gonna help nobodies daddy in Spain I’m afraid so people need to get a grip.
No one is promoting it.
No one is promoting it.
How about promoting violence.
Ah! That’s different I’ll address that now.
