pounds dropped nearly 1% on the release of the governments position
If you look at the governments demands its just pure cakism, that they know full-well the EU will never agree too.
It just confirms whats been depressingly obvious for some time, that they intend to crash us out with no deal, no matter what damage that will do to the economy
I assume that everyone else is assuming that it’ll be no deal, or a minimal deal to be built on later, slowly. How exactly anyone involved in the seafood industry (to pick a non-random example) is supposed to prepare for this eventuality, I have no idea.
Ladies and gentlemen… I may have found a positive to Brexit (if you squint hard enough, and don’t think about what it means for the private sector)…
https://twitter.com/johnjcrace/status/1232990494025814018?s=21
Boris Johnson is ready to walk away from trade talks with the EU if progress is not made by June – then prepare the UK for a no-deal scenario at the end of 2020, according to a government document published today.
The prime minister is also set to rip up a key part of the Brexit deal already agreed with Brussels. Mr Johnson is said to believe the Tory election win means he is no longer bound by the political declaration attached to the withdrawal agreement.
[EDIT: - sorry, broadly the same story as linked above.]
There's a blog version of the Twitter thread Klunk posted earlier, it has a preamble explanation and it's a bit easier to read if anyone's interested.
Perfidious albion
But won't recruiting and training 50,000 extra customs officers (which wouldn't be required if it wasn't for Brexshit) put a dent in the £350m extra per week for the NHS?
C'mon guys, it'll be the unicorns next... don't let me down.
Seeing as it looks like Joris Bohnson is now planning on renaging on the withdrawal agreement, then stomping out of negotiations, at what point do we officially become a rogue state?
Probably when you have nuclear weapons.
Luckily the UK ones are controlled (at least in part) by the US.
I'm beginning to suspect that some lies were told.
So the hard Brexit just becomes a little more likely ... “Post-Brexit talks: UK prepared to walk away in June if no progress” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51650961
I can’t understand how government doesn’t understand that they’re about to make it super difficult for any UK business that trades with the EU. They’ll potentially have to work to a ‘GB Standard’ and an ‘EU Standard’ and face all the checks and scrutiny as a consequence.
Boris has set the tone with "f*** business".
They do not, repeat, do not, care.
They’ll potentially have to work to a ‘GB Standard’ and an ‘EU Standard’ and face all the checks and scrutiny as a consequence.
It’s more likely that we’ll just work to one set of standards, set mostly by the EU, but still have to have twice the checks and scrutiny for no good reason other than UK English political willy waving, and making the UK market sweet for the USA to exploit without having to satisfy any standards but their own. The big exception is employment… rights will be eroded by new employer/employee relationships that have weaker and weaker protection in UK law, you can bet your job on that.
they’re about to make it super difficult for any UK business that trades with the EU
Deliberately tanking the pound to offset the tariffs and red tape.
Win, er, um, win....
https://twitter.com/stevepeers/status/1233086907942391810?s=21
Who needs International patents, enforceable across the continent and beyond, when you can have good ole British patents? Local patents for locals people.
https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1233095098709221376?s=21
https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1233095891579494401?s=21
https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1233097622770135041?s=21
Go and read the whole thread… every sector is being screwed.
Government memo leaked to Huffington telling all government ministers that the words "Brexit" and "No deal" are banned.
I smell Dom Cum.
Poops - I thought that was generally accepted and understood albeit no hard evidence until Huffpo.
As for Dom Cum, that's something I wouldn't wish to smell.
Government memo leaked to Huffington telling all government ministers that the words “Brexit” and “No deal” are banned.
Theresa Villiers was taken apart by Emma Barnett on Five Live yesterday for continuing to refer to an 'Australian Style' trade deal. She was repeatedly told to stop referring to it as that, as it was clearly just 'no deal' with a different name and they should stop treating us all like idiots
But then, why would they? It seems to have worked pretty well so far.
There surely can't be any doubt now that 'no deal' is the desired destination as far as this bunch of lunatics are concerned. They're barely even pretending otherwise now. Looks like we're all in for the full on Disaster Capitalism experience
will the corona virus trigger the next global recession at the same time Britain throws it self off the cliff with a no deal.....feels like a perfect storm brewing ....Investment money will dry up, Business go bust,, and no safety net left...
Am i seeing the worst or is this the likely outcome?
50,000 new customs staff won't come cheap, especially as many will need to be vets for phytosanitary checks, immigrants the Tories will need lots of immigrants to help them administer all the red tape they're creating, oh the lols!
So which will cost the UK more, coronovirus pandemic & the NHS at breaking point or Brexit? The 2 together seem like a perfect storm (speaking of which you can add the flooding to the list of plagues we've invited upon ourselves)
Am i seeing the worst or is this the likely outcome?
Its Disaster Capitalism. They need to create a crisis in order to use the resulting chaos to push through legislation that under normal circumstances they wouldn't have a cat in hells chance of getting through parliament. They want to tear up existing EU-based legislation on workers rights, environmental standards, food hygeine standards and any regulation on finance and the predatory businesses owned by their mates. They will use the upcoming self-created financial shitstorm to do it, as well as putting the NHS up for sale and slashing the welfare state.
Expect a stony faced Joris Bohnson and his minions as they stand in front of TV cameras starting a lot of statements wit the words 'we have no option but to....' before announcing some huge piece of legislation that will take a sledgehammer to the status quo
Massively aiding them in this, hence the newly shortened timescale of walking away in June, is the fact that there isn't an opposition party at the moment. In fact, you could argue that there hasn't been for a good few years now
And, add in the trade war coming after Trump wins his second term… oh, and the diminishment of UK education, especially science and languages (see my post above)… and I wouldn’t want to be stuck in Little Britain… oh, hang on… damn.
One of the punters at work gets the express. Headline today was ( I paraphrase)
" good old Boris threatens the EU with "no deal""
*bangs head on the floor*
Theresa Villiers was taken apart by Emma Barnett on Five Live yesterday for continuing to refer to an ‘Australian Style’ trade deal. She was repeatedly told to stop referring to it as that, as it was clearly just ‘no deal’ with a different name and they should stop treating us all like idiots
If only - if only - there'd been more of that the last few years. I hold the media largely to blame for not holding the bullshitters now in charge to account.
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1233013751227572224?s=20
Was quite amusing, you could see her face express the words WTF
The new euphemism is "non negotiated outcome" I understand.
Something good about brexit..
Have you thought this through? Rocketing food costs, secondary rural economy collapse, dependance on foreign powers for imported food with unregulated intesive, dubvious chemicals and high carbon footprint. Best case corporate super-farm monopolies turning the contryside into factories, bulldozing the woods and hedgerows, monoculturing to maximise profits.
I guess not.
Hmmm, my work contract is coming to an end soon - might get one of these customs jobs! Wee Brexit bonus of pilfering illegal fags and booze, bringing bike parts and guitars into the country tax free and extra pennies by becoming an inside man for a crime gang a la The Departed!
Worth reading this thread about why in government this Vote Leave team could well be setting things up for the No Deal outcome they claimed was Project Fear back in 2016:
https://twitter.com/davidgauke/status/1233670974308061184?s=21
https://twitter.com/davidgauke/status/1233672496811069443?s=21
(Reuters) - Britain is preparing to reject EU demands to guarantee that the country will continue to be bound by European human rights laws once the UK becomes fully independent, the Sunday Telegraph reported.
We don’t want no stinking rights.
trouble is you can’t tell whether this is real or a teaser to see if they can get away with it.
European human rights law is not a part of the EU. Its a completely separate entity although its a prerequisite for joining the EU. #We actually wrote most of the declaration of human rights post war. We would have to withdraw from it which would be problematic as its incorporated into the Scotland act which set up Holyrood and cannot be altered without the consent of Holyrood. England could withdraw but the only way Westminster could take Scotland out would be to abolish Holyrood and of course having Scotland in and England out ( dunno the welsh situation) would be utterly ridiculous and unworkable
customs jobs
My betting is that they will be all zero hour G4S contracts.
Not all of them. The customs jobs include such things as all the vets required to validate/sign off on such trivial items as a product containing ham.
Maybe all the retired vets can come and help...
My betting is that they will be all zero hour G4S contracts.
Cool, new Brexit opportunities in smuggling await, I wondered what the upside was going to be 🙂
Not all of them. The customs jobs include such things as all the vets required to validate/sign off on such trivial items as a product containing ham.
Maybe all the retired vets can come and help…
That was never a Customs role for vets when I worked for them. It’s up to the importer to make the correct declaration using a commodity code - (it’s all coming flooding back, I’ll probably end up in a freight channel at Dover now with this level of knowledge 🙁 ) if there’s a concern about mis-declaration a sample would be sent off, no vets involved. I imagine any increased customs role will be in entry processing and to a lesser degree frontier control. Fortunately there’s little infrastructure in place for all that - not sure there’s much full stop in the ports dealing with traffic from RoI, the benefits of being in a single market.
I fear the country will get really rinsed by organised crime moving into the export markets and claiming rebates of taxes and duties for exports. Outside the eu we will have no way of verifying exports and it will be like the early days of carousel fraud and excise fraud in the mid-90s again.
On the plus side - blue passports
The new euphemism is “non negotiated outcome” I understand.
I've got a new euphemism too.
"One who knows their own genitals very closely".
Mind you, 'Brexity' is also a handy euphemism for 'racist halfwit' so.....
Remember how once we were "shackled to the dying EU"? Well we are now almost certainly shackled to Brexit. A place where any rational decisions or even compassion are sacrificed in pursuit of ideology.
I don't care how you voted. Can anyone justify this?
https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1234242149530656768
That was never a Customs role for vets when I worked for them.
Fair enough. Just heard a vet who had that role talking about it on radio the other day.
We are going to need four times as many vets as regards exporting as currently… and at the moment a huge proportion of the current workforce are EU nationals. That increase isn’t part of the 50,000… that’s just customs officials, isn't it? One way around the vet shortage is not to have any additional sanitary and phytosanitary checks for EEA exports… by not exporting… and just retiring half our farmers, and nearly all of our seafood industry… which is starting to look like a possibility.
Anyway… the USA trade talks are being bigged up again, to try and, er, balance up the EU trade talks… except all they really do is make an EU deal harder for little gain…
https://twitter.com/davidheniguk/status/1234376061527429121?s=21
