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Barrista’s can earn more than Barristers.
That deserves praise. Gold star.
And a (comic) example among thousands that remind us that low wages are the result of decisions made in government and by companies. People need to get past this idea that wage levels are set in a simple market where fewer people means higher wages... for most people in most sectors they face a double whammy of overwork due to understaffing and falling real pay year on year on year on year on year...
Although I think its a tad more involved that as you could lose staff from other sectors, like health.
This is becoming a huge issue. The current nursing crisis / planned strikes is quite unsurprising when you realise that Lidl and Morrisons will pay at least the same hourly rate to their shelf stacking staff as a newly qualified / junior nurse will earn.
Factor in that some nurses are spending 3k a year for parking at work on top and also the huge amount of extra stress involved in life and death care compared to stacking tins of beans....
And a (comic) example among thousands that remind us that low wages are the result of decisions made in government and by companies. People need to get past this idea that wage levels are set in a simple market where fewer people means higher wages… for most people in most sectors they face a double whammy of overwork due to understaffing and falling real pay year on year on year on year on year…
That reality is slowly sinking in for HGV drivers too, those headline wages from last year or so are gone. It's all back to low wages and/or high hours again. Quite a few drivers thought that kicking all the 'forrin' drivers out would increase wages but all it's done is mean less trucks running so there's more work being pushed on each run, especially on the multi-droo pallet work.
It’s actually quite shocking that one of the main advocates, who’s clearly an intelligent bloke, failed to notice that the whole project was fuelled by racism
He would have noticed, he just refused to acknowledge it publicly.
More in the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/10/brexit-next-boss-foreign-workers-uk-lord-wolfson
“In respect of immigration, it’s definitely not the Brexit that I wanted, or indeed, many of people who voted Brexit wanted,” he added.
I think he's kidding himself there
“We have to remember, you know, we’re all stuck in this Brexit argument. We have to remember that what post-Brexit Britain looks like is not the preserve of those people that voted Brexit, it’s for all of us to decide,” Wolfson said.
We've utterly and totally ****ed up so if all of you who said this would be a **** up and voted against would just take some responsibility for the **** up I encouraged that would be just lovely.
Thanks
Lord Wolfson
Factor in that some nurses are spending 3k a year for parking at work on top and also the huge amount of extra stress involved in life and death care compared to stacking tins of beans
Private Eye had a cartoon recently with someone collapsed in a supermarket and the staff coming to help with one saying "dont worry we all used to be nurses"
Factor in that some nurses are spending 3k a year for parking at work on top and also the huge amount of extra stress involved in life and death care compared to stacking tins of beans
3k parking for nurses? That is absolutely appalling. It should be free for all nurses if they wish to drive to work.
Who own the car park(s) anyway? Council?
Is this the way to reduce carbon emission or to discourage driving?
direct quote from a nurse on channel 4 news the other night.
Hospitals generally own the car parks on their grounds. Its a revenue stream they use to top up their funding
Always been a mystery to me why asylum seekers can't do some menial jobs for cash-in-hand. It's not like anyone else is doing them.
“We have to remember, you know, we’re all stuck in this Brexit argument. We have to remember that what post-Brexit Britain looks like is not the preserve of those people that voted Brexit, it’s for all of us to decide,” Wolfson said."
You're either part of the problem or part of the solution...
Notice how he doesn't includes himself in 'those' but does refer to himself as part of 'us' You are one of 'those' matey boy. The 'us in this conversation are 'those' that knew the whole thing was going to be a sh*t storm
This is one case where 'You broke it so you fix it' doesn't apply. You got it wrong, you broke it, now sod off and let some of those who got it right have a go.
Always been a mystery to me why asylum seekers can’t do some menial jobs for cash-in-hand. It’s not like anyone else is doing them.
its ilegal for them to work whilst their claim is being processed and if they get caught then its more likely to be rejected
a bonkers system that means the state has to pay for them, considering the current backlog is something ridiculous like 8 year?
Its absolute insanity, but I expect nothing less from our government
“In respect of immigration, it’s definitely not the Brexit that I wanted, or indeed, many of people who voted Brexit wanted,” he added.
I think he’s kidding himself there
Of course he is - they all are. Because there's always someone else to blame. That's how Brexit was conceived, won and is being implemented.
Perhaps a good change emerging?
Who knew that freedom of movement benefitted everyone....
TBH it wasn’t the Spanish who voted to keep us out 🙂
I’d be surprised if they don’t some type of long stay visa (a la france), they have just done a digital nomad one very recently.
But don’t expect it next week 🙂
London loses position as most valuable European stock market
Britain's stock market has lost its position as Europe's most-valued, as the economic downturn weighs on UK companies, data shows.
It’s okay, our great new trade deals will help us turn it around… oh…
Fmr Environment Sec George Eustice has spoken about the post-Brexit UK/Australia trade deal in the Commons. He says now no longer a minister: "I no longer have to put such a positive gloss on what was agreed...the Australia deal is not actually a very good trade deal for the UK."
[ source : twitter.com/lewis_goodall ]
Britain’s stock market has lost its position as Europe’s most-valued
err Covid, Ukraine, Worldwide downturn, Chinese supply issues, a typhoon, gas prices it wasn't our fault!
Eu could really chuck a spanner in the brexit system by offering free movement to Uk citizens if they can buy a property, support themselves and not claim benfits...
I would off sharpish
What an absolute shitshow.
Is there anything positive to come from this thus far?
I picked up a can of Brew Dog the other day.... Now brewed in Berlin because importing it from the UK is a ballache.
I'm back in the UK sometime next week.... I'm already dreading it.
Was there in August and it was depressing, but helped by the fact I was dog sitting (good excuse to walk to the pub), my family weren't there (hence the dog sitting) and the weather was good.
This time round none of that applies.
Short days, shitty weather and my sister inviting the (leave voting) aunties around is going to make for some awkward moments.
One saving grace this time round at least is that we're coming with the van so can leave and disappear into the countryside for a few nights before it gets too much. The second saving grace is that the GF can't stay for more than 90 days... Can't see us staying much beyond Xmas...
The absolute shit show that is Brexit is making the news more and more thankfully.
Going to become much harder to disguise what a mess it is behind covid and the energy crisis as the EU recovers and grows far faster than us.
Eu could really chuck a spanner in the brexit system by offering free movement to Uk citizens if they can buy a property, support themselves and not claim benfits…
I would off sharpish
TBH that’s more than what us ‘residents’ get we still have the 90/180 thing with countries other than our host.
But if you can prove you can support yourself you can still come over,it’s just a lot more than when you were in the club.
No Liz, THIS is a disgrace
Perhaps a good change emerging?
Who knew that freedom of movement benefitted everyone….
Isn't this just so Dave and Barbara, who didn't want to apply for residential visas or a change in nationality, can spend more time at their Villa pumping their pensions into the Spanish economy? It's a rather specifically targeted exemption for wealthier British retirees that want to spend more than half their year living in the sunnier parts of the EU...
TBH I think the Brexiteers should actually be fighting this sort of thing, Dave and Barbara should be spending their money in Blighty if they're not willing to make a change to their nationality or residential status, not letting the Spanish bend the rules on their behalf.
Freedom of movement was a two way thing when we were in and sadly it's removal has to be as well.
Freedom of movement was a two way thing when we were in and sadly it’s removal has to be as well.
TBH it’s the usual quality Brexit deal, a Spanish person can spend 6 months on hols in the U.K. go home a day and return for another 6 months rinse and repeat.
None of that 90 days nonsense for them 🙂
I picked up a can of Brew Dog the other day…. Now brewed in Berlin because importing it from the UK is a ballache.
Brewdog meets German purity rules?
Yet another ‘you couldn’t make this shit up’ moment to add to the lengthening list tge Brexiteers have gifted the nation
I’m need that will come as a huge shock to us all: Liz Truss was a crap trade negotiator and the deals she made were extremely bad for the UK economy
Well, who’d have thunk it?
https://twitter.com/peston/status/1592273087269339136?s=46&t=vLE5JtKZjgfiXv08sU9gNw
I don't remember Eustice arguing against Truss deals with Oz and NZ when they were agreed.
oh dear
https://twitter.com/grantshapps/status/1592141677426520065?cxt=HHwWgsDRsfGatpgsAAAA
#takingbackcontrol
Free private storage for Audi and BMW drivers but people who can't afford cars will still have to pay a fortune for bus fares or taxi rides to some out of town public transport desert that passes as a health facility.
It's always free parking for nurses, never free parking for cleaners, security staff, IT support, canteen staff, mortuary workers or all the other folk who make hospitals work.
How about free car storage for lowest paid hospital workers, and an equivalent cash payment for those who don't or won't use publicly subsidised private car storage. Or reduced private car storage charges for car sharers. Or god forbid the health authority starts to actively engage with local authority transport depts on planning public transport links around staff shift times, car pooling, park and rides etc etc
Private car use is a public health disaster. Health services need to recognise that and plan to minimise it especially in and around their own facilities . Easier said than done given the ridiculous inbuilt biases our society has around private car use but there we are.
And we're stuck with it
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1592925035739877376?t=UpDIRF0uKzzbQBw1P-UnWA&s=19
The penny has dropped, most Brexiteers i know "just dont want to talk about it"
Finally Brexit is getting a big mention on question time.
Ah well the failly express did a mention of the
'Shameful' driving licence situation means British expats can't drive in Spain 'shambles!
Just a day before the announcement that it’s pretty much sorted apart from the rubber stamping on both sides.(which probably won’t be rapid)
Only been from May( 7 months), good to see they have their finger on the pulse 🙂
Probabably something that should have been handled in the transition period by our government but another headline about the nasty Spanish (whose licences are recognised in the U.K.) 🙂
This rather shows just how much the brexit ultras have taken over the Tory party and just how much power they have grabbed
Anyone with any sense including the majority of the citizens of the UK know we need to have a much better and closer relationship with the EU but those lunatics seem to have the tories under their thumb
The Tory party effectively morphed into UKIP years ago. Now they think that even that’s a bit lefty and namby pamby so they’re aiming to become the National Front
Whoever it is who’s nominally leader of the party this week has to placate the headbangers, but you just can’t reason with fruitloops like John Redwood. No concession will be enough until we’ve recommenced the carpet bombing of Dresden
Unfortunately, this countries economic decline will continue until someone addresses the elephant in the room and we reach some kind of agreement with the EU over access to the single market and customs Union.
No chance of that happening with these loons in charge though
The Tories are harder line than UKIP. UKIP was in favour of a Norway or Swizerland trade deal the Tories now won't consider. From the 2015 UKIP manifesto:
We do not have to be members of the EU in order to trade
with the EU, or any other country. More than sixty non-EU
countries have trade deals with the EU. In 2013, the top
twenty of these, countries such as Switzerland, Norway,
Hong Kong, Canada, Nigeria, Mexico and Australia,
and
Being in the EU is no guarantee of greater financial rewards
than being out in terms of trade: non-EU Switzerland, with
an economy one-quarter the size of ours, exports four and a
half times more to the EU, per capita, than the UK does.
from here:
From the 2015 UKIP manifesto:
Pretty much all the brexiteer loons were only claiming that at the time.
Its only once they scraped a victory that it suddenly became the will of the people to go for an ultra hard exit.
They knew they could only fool people so much.
Bait and switch.
Have we done the genuinely beautiful moment where Martin Daubney is physically unable to say that 55% of voters in a GBeebies Twitter poll are against Brexit? 🙂
https://twitter.com/jemmaforte/status/1594271852934959105?s=20&t=mJVqpSNHnaDcwbCCtEot-g
It's not often you see a human being bluescreen is it?
TBH what’s a remainiac, sounds like the ‘we won get over it’ lot just can’t give up on it.
They don’t look appy thou 🙂
It’s always worth checking in with John Redwood to experience the full paranoid unhinged alternative universe these headbangers live in
https://twitter.com/johnredwood/status/1594574203218526208?s=46&t=J1R48ndCP0XNXrJFbIaXVQ
It would appear that there are a couple of saner voices in the Tory party prepared to try and re-engage with reality, but they’ve no chance while these loons are holding court
Thinking out loud then, if Labour stand on a "Swiss style" option, it should appease many of the Brexit protest votes from 2019, LibDems may do a deal as it moved towards their aims to rejoin, and should isolate the Tories as the true party of "watch us punch ourselves in the nuts"?
@ MCTD - do you really think that any shift by Labour towards a Swiss style Brexit option will encourage the Red Wall back to Labour? And any said shift won’t be seized upon by the right wing Tory press to bash Labour as an anti Brexit party?
The same forces that pushed brexit are still there and still ruthless about lying
Labour would need to do an election pact with the limp dems and the SNP to ensure no tory majority to get that thru. do it on their own they would lose.
That would mean standing down in multiple of the other parties target seats / giving the SNP a free run at the one remaining scots tory
Stand on a platform of rejoin and constitutional reform. We would never have a tory government again
Have we done the genuinely beautiful moment where Martin Daubney is physically unable to say that 55% of voters in a GBeebies Twitter poll are against Brexit?
I don't normally watch that kind of car-crash stuff but this time I did, and it's sodding hilarious, like a well-scripted comedy sketch.
Stand on a platform of rejoin and constitutional reform. We would never have a tory government again
I'm good with that
Who needs answers, when you have your belief in Brexit to fall back on and the desperate to attack as a distraction…
https://twitter.com/peterstefanovi2/status/1594672776639651841?s=21
Sunak "believes" in Brexit.
That's what it amounts to isn't it, you just have to believe hard enough.
The denial of how sh*t it is still amazes me.
Some of us have given up clicking Twitter links since Musk bought it, Kelvin. There are alternative ways to get news:
what i thought i heard last night was that 1 in 4 pensioners have a million in assets! I'd imagine the prime Brexit stock won't be as worried as the young.
Thinking out loud then, if Labour stand on a “Swiss style” option
Why waste their and our time? Neither the Swiss nor EU like the current arrangements. It isn't going to happen, even before we shit the bed and walked away from the best deal we all ready had. When we rejoin it will be as a full Euro using, Schengen member nothing else will be acceptable to our near neighbours.
what i thought i heard last night was that 1 in 4 pensioners have a million in assets!
Thats what property inflation has done. I would bet the vast majority of that is tied up in a single property and also a value for the pension pot. It doesn't mean you have much of an income or a rising income
nothing else will be acceptable to our near neighbours.
The Swiss type deal was offered last year and was acceptable to your neighbours.
There are alternative ways to get news:
I wasn’t posting news, I was posting commentary in the form of a video.
Here’s YouTube if you want:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IdkMyo4oHsU
But YouTube, Facebook, Twitter… anywhere this stuff is shared is utterly compromised. Something many of us warned of when the web was turned into privately owned silos. What’s your alternative?
Googling (well quanting in fact) got me a choice of about 10 French media and half a dozen English ones of which Euronews wasn't behind a pay wall so I linked that. None of them was more compromised than Twitter with the possible exception of the Daily Mail's YouTube channel.
I've never been much of a fan of Twitter because the stuff that's shared often lacks any grounding in reality - twitter twaddle, opinionated bollocks, spin it, twist it... . You're fairly selective in the Twitter stuff you chose to link and I respect you for that, Kelvin. However, now Musk owns it I really don't want to add my clicks.
Where should people post and share political commentary videos? I wasn’t posting a news item.
I share your concerns about Musk, but what services should people use instead? I don’t consider YouTube or Facebook as any less of a concern than Twitter is at the moment, just under less daily scrutiny. It’s all a mess.
what i thought i heard last night was that 1 in 4 pensioners have a million in assets! I’d imagine the prime Brexit stock won’t be as worried as the young.
1 in 4? Seems a little high to me.
I'd take YouTube/Google over Twitter at present:
compared with Musk.
Seems a little high to me.
Seems really high up here. Doubt the picture looks the same in Surrey.
I’d take YouTube/Google
I’ll post YouTube links where I can then, just for you. Personally I think it’s the most damaging player on the internet within our political and social landscape… but all the big social media players are tainted, so it’s lose lose either way, as far as I can see. Twitter is getting worse by the day though, so I might be behind the times and will be agreeing with you before the week is out, once I’ve read more and caught up.
Some of us have given up clicking Twitter links since Musk bought it, Kelvin. There are alternative ways to get news:
Go yourself Edukator, that’s exactly the insight and moral high ground we need to highlight on a Brexit thread
Brexit has failed to deliver any notable economic benefits, more than six years after the vote to leave the EU, David Davis has admitted. - Rob Merrick, Independent.
Ah when we rejoin the eu what will be the the be the greatest benefit you miss from Brexit 🙂
I’ll be honest, I’m not paying much attention to Brexit at the minute, there’s nothing that will change until Pro Brexit politicians get heavily defeated in a general election.
Beyond wanting to drive immigrants back into the sea, what are Brexiteers proposing at the minute to actually make the U.K. a prosper economically?
Treasury minister failed to name a single Brexit benefit after being put on the spot in the House of Commons - Bloomberg.
Andrew Griffith said the Prime Minister and the Chancellor were right to reaffirm "we must never go back" and pursue a relationship with Brussels that "relies upon alignment with EU laws".
Alignment benefits us all. Being isolationist out of dogma rather than any practical benefit is where the UK is, for now… depressing. Doubly so for the people of NI.
They’re proposing what they’ve always proposed
What they like to refer to as ‘a bonfire of red tape’ which is holding back Britannia Unchained
Which in reality means tearing up workers rights, environmental protections, food standards etc in a race to the bottom
This is an article of faith for Rees Mogg and chums, who want to completely deregulate pretty much everything and make the UK a tax haven with a sweatshop attached.
Now they know the next election is already as good as lost, expect them to massively escalate this to try and make everything irreversible
Absolutely stunning hypocrisy on show once again here. Really, you couldn't make this **** up.
Ex-minister Owen Paterson is taking the UK government to the European Court of Human Rights over a standards watchdog verdict that he broke lobbying rules.
Mr Paterson, a leading Eurosceptic who once campaigned for the UK to break away from the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), argues that the standards watchdog ruling "damaged his good reputation".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63714944
TLDR : UK no longer in the top ten of trading partners for Germany. Turns out that it’s been far easier for Germany to refocus trade and reorganise supply chains away from the UK than it is for UK to turn away from Germany.
They don’t need us more than we don’t need them
Well, that's what happens when you make yourself more difficult to deal with. Doing so with no decent reason why is just nuts. But here we are.
The UK will be de facto back in the EU in ten years, just with a far inferior arrangement to what we had pre-2021. The ongoing self harm will be minimised over time, but never fully reversed (or the lost ground recovered). It is just a hideous national balls up.
saucemerlin
Free MemberThe UK will be de facto back in the EU in ten years, just with a far inferior arrangement to what we had pre-2021. The ongoing self harm will be minimised over time, but never fully reversed (or the lost ground recovered)
And one of the really crap things is, people will never really beleive that the lost ground wasn't recovered. Just look at the period after the financial crisis for proof of that- britain's economy never recovered that lost ground, but most people have been convinced that a return to growth is a sign of good health, while other economies did so much better. And then, 10 years on, people thought that outperforming germany by .1% for a month was success, while not looking at the 10 and 20 year trends.
It'll be the exact same here, coming out of recession into weak growth will be proclaimed as a great victory
coming out of recession into weak growth will be proclaimed as a great victory
See recipe for boiled frog.
I'll just leave this from the ft here...
^^^
Investment is deterred by uncertainty. Not all, but, on average, some. How can you invest in something where the wider trading arrangements are uncertain - or certain and less advantageous (as they almost always will be with Brexit as the EU is a free trade area)?
Project Fear?
Project Entirely Reasonable Concerns About Totally Predictable Clusterfudge.
Had an interesting conversation about Brexit on Saturday with a friend who was quite pro Brexit. He obviously isn't now. He was ranting about the lies that were told and I pointed out to him that many of us saw through the lies. He then had the good grace to admit he'd believed the lies, took a lot to admit that. Just need a few more people to accept they were duped.
Project fear seems to have turned into project best case.