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I've always liked bread.

When I was a child I existed on sandwiches grabbed from the kitchen at half time in our all day soccer matches, or stuffed into back pockets when we went on adventures. In later life I used bread to fuel racing before gels and energy drinks, I had peanut butter sandwiches handed up to me at the 3 Peaks many years ago.

I was happy with bread, and it was happy with me.

This year I've been suffering with bloating, indigestion and mad diarrohea after eating bread, so I gave it up. Being of a medical nature, I wondered if I had developed some kind of problem with gluten, so tried some gluten-free bread, but had exactly the same result.

So, bread; like it but it don't like me.


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 3:51 pm
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I loved bread and most of my diet revolves around it.

I'm hoping nothing like this happens to me, I'd have to eat a salad without croutons!


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 3:53 pm
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same problem here..

ulcerative colitis was the diagnosis (after much prodding and searching)


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 3:54 pm
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I dream about toast.
If a naked lovely lady walked into my bedroom this evening carrying a crumpet, I'd have the crumpet.
I walk past bakeries and inhale.

It's bloody murder.


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 3:56 pm
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love bread and it does not disagree

Is just over 10 stone and mocks the idiet


 
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Hmmm... Ulcerative colitis isn't something I considered, but might be a possibility. I did think of IBS, but I don't really know.


 
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Yep, that sums it up...


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 3:58 pm
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Have you tried making your own bread? Perhaps your intolerant to the additives and preservatives in shop bought bread (which the gluten free bread would also have)?


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 3:59 pm
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Was it Real Bread, or that stuff that comes in bags from the supermarket?

Have you tried making your own sourdough bread and seeing if that has the same effect?


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 3:59 pm
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I'd go into mourning if I couldn't eat bread. Does it not make any difference if you cook it. I'm thinking cheese on toast, pate on toast here?

And do you eat a lot of pies, pasties, potato cakes and crisps to compensate? I'm just thinking what I'd do


 
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I'm crikey, and I was a bread addict.

I would eat crumpets, pitta bread, pizza, home made bread, shop bought bread, cheese topped muffins, oven bottom muffins, floury baps, toast, eggy fingers, bruschetta, ciabatta, and any other bread product you can name.

I am bereft.


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 4:06 pm
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Condolences. Have you had the ATA antibody test for coeliacs? Crohn's and UC could manifest with high CRP.

I'm a complete bread addict - everything from Soda to malt. Of course they all live in the "carb cupboard". You can always try potato farls.


 
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djaustin - sodas and potato farls, I guess you're from NI? Cant find decent sodas on the mainland!


 
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No, had no tests. I'm a nurse, so hospitals and doctors make me nervous. Just need to forget about bread.


 
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Interesting you've been suffering from bloating. Despite running and riding frequently I'm a bit lardier than I'd like to be, I do eat more than I should but not that much more (in my opinion of course!)

I realise a lot of this is age but I have been wondering for a while if I should try cutting out bread as I eat quite a lot of it, my problem is I don't know what I'd have instead. I bring sandwiches to work and cannot be arsed to make a salad every day, have thought about making a big pasta salad type thing once or twice a week but it's still carbs.... If we don't have dinner of an evening I'll make beans on toast or have a sandwich.

Heard an interesting conversation on radio the other week, some French chef saying that British (supermarket) bread is rubbish because it's cooked too quickly and consequently is doughy and stodgy, this made me wonder if that's making me fatter than I should be.


 
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In the first week I got a bit desperate, and made a 'ham sandwich'.

Two slices of ham with coleslaw in the middle; bit messy, but worked a treat.


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 4:29 pm
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No, had no tests. I'm a nurse, so hospitals and doctors make me nervous. Just need to forget about bread.

Hee hee. My mums a retired nurse, used to run and ICU. She is [i]The[/i] Worlds Worst Patient. Most of the nurses / medics I know are maniacs for self diagnosis, alternative medicine and hypochondria 🙂

Maybe its not the bread. Maybe its the butter 🙂


 
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Just wondered do you get similar symptoms when you eat pasta or such like, as pasta is made from wheat using plain flour It could be a way of narrowing down what is causing this disorder.


 
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I run an ICU now, and I'm not keen to let anyone tell me I've eaten my last slice of toast.

Pasta seems to be ok, but I've not eaten loads of it.

The foods I can eat seem to be an ever shrinking pool...


 
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I've cut out all non-soluble fibre, and cut back on stuff with wheat in..

I've re-kindled my old love of spuds and oat cakes are erm.. an arranged marriage.. something that I'm sure I will grow to love in time..


 
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And do you eat a lot of pies, pasties, potato cakes and crisps to compensate? I'm just thinking what I'd do

considers binners to be a spiritual brother


 
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Hmmm, oatcakes are featuring in my current attempts to eat enough to stay alive, not really the same as a nice slice of toast...


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 4:57 pm
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Crikey,

The antibody test is available on line for about £20 (or possibly from boots or other pharmacies?).

I'm surprised that gluten free bread caused you the same problem as it bears little resemblance to real bread. Did you cut out everything with wheat in it (so pita bread, bicuits, etc)...

But if one of your own patients was trying to unscientifically self diagnose what would you say (appart from the fact that his sedation had obviously worn off)...


 
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[i]if one of your own patients was trying to unscientifically self diagnose what would you say [/i]

... I'd tell him not to be silly.. Point taken.

Changing to gluten-free stuff with little effect seems to be a problem though, and maybe I should start on the possibly-something-else-is-wrong path.


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 5:05 pm
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Crikey - Get some lovely fresh cooked ham, put on an proper staffordshire oatcake, cover in grated extra mature chedder, bit of Worcester sauce in there, roll it all up and whack it in the microwave for 30 seconds

Food of the gods, that is 😀


 
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Heard an interesting conversation on radio the other week, [b]some French chef saying that British (supermarket) bread is rubbish because it's cooked too quickly and consequently is doughy and stodgy[/b], this made me wonder if that's making me fatter than I should be.

It's called the Chorleywood process, and is used for mass-market bread because it's cheap and quick. Either make your own or find a good baker. Trouble is, the bread tastes better so you eat more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorleywood_Bread_Process


 
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Heard an interesting conversation on radio the other week, some French chef saying that British (supermarket) bread is rubbish because it's cooked too quickly and consequently is doughy and stodgy

100% true.


 
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I went round all the local bakers when I lived in part of town that had them. The best bread? Tesco.

I had this really pleasant sensation of taste when I ate it, but I can't imagine why since it's so rubbish 🙄


 
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Heard an interesting conversation on radio the other week, some French chef saying that British (supermarket) bread is rubbish because it's cooked too quickly and consequently is doughy and stodgy

It's not the cooking too quickly, it's the process by which they get it to prove so quickly. (chorleywood as above)

Proving bread brakes down the gluten such that the body can process it.


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 5:25 pm
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I've eaten half a loaf of cheap morrisons white bread today if that helps.


 
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I had this really pleasant sensation of taste when I ate it, but I can't imagine why

sugar and flavour enhancers?


 
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sugar and flavour enhancers?

You tell me.


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 5:43 pm
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All very well, but I'm put in mind of the famous Scandinavian joke;

Lady; 'Would you like super sex?'
Man: 'I'll just have the soup thanks...'

I'm off bread, I loved it and now it's gone.


 
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I went round all the local bakers when I lived in part of town that had them. The best bread? Tesco.

I had this really pleasant sensation of taste when I ate it, but I can't imagine why since it's so rubbish.

You'll not be iEating iBread iAnyway, surely?


 
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Posted : 05/03/2012 5:56 pm
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Can you not do naan bread Crikey? You could live off kebabs


 
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I'd end up in a korma.


 
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You'll not be iEating iBread iAnyway, surely?

Yeah that was a long time ago when I had local bakers!


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 6:00 pm
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I have a similar problem to the OP, suddenly couldn't eat wheat about 18 months ago. GP had me tested and drew a blank...just have to keep trying things to see what works.


 
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A wholemeal and rye sourdough might be low-GI and low-wheat enough to not set off any allergies?


 
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No, but if I asked for my chips on one I'd get battered along with the fish...


 
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I'm off bread, I loved it and now it's gone

I'm sorry for your loss..just remember there's penty more loaves in the sea, it's not you it's the loaf..and anyway that loaf was a tart and your better off rid.....
Sorry... 😥


 
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