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I am not cancelling Christmas - triple jabbed, feel a bit like shit. Both out works have cancelled Xmas get togethers - I'm seeing my family on Christmas Day...
What a toss pot
"I've said what I've said".... we're back to taking him at his word and being good little children and not asking any more awkward questions... or "playing politics" as the PM repeatedly calls it.
So he wasn't invited to a party in his own gaff? 🙂
The look in the eyes of the cabinet members behind Boris...they're not behind him in any other way.
The vile **** is sat there shaking his head.
Speaker being his normal useless self.
Letting him go off on his rants without telling him to answer the question.
Parliament TV not working for me. 🙁 I'm relying on this thread for info, keep it up!
Blackford putting the boot in nicely.
Guardian have it live.
Johnson is bleating about others playing politics.
Blackford is doing his best to cause some disruption in the tory benches and pushing him hard.
Dom certainly has a way with words...but you get the gist.
https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1468531753979678725
It would interesting to know what ‘parliamentary language’ would be appropriate to him. Everything appropriate seems to have been band, perhaps the Speaker should be asked to advise.
@crazy-legs, you can see it on BBC iPlayer here https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcparliament
Blackford doing Starmer's job.
Playing politics during the pandemic has been the excuse from day one. Look at where it's got us.
It's been the biggest political mistake of Starmer's career to not play politics with the the Tories.
That "playing politics" bullshit is getting tired, fast.
what a weak cowardly toady man he is.
Johnson is bleating about others playing politics.
He often says this I just don't get it. Its like oh Ronaldo hes such a pain always playing football... its his job.
PMQs was rubbish im just amazed so many of them turned up.
Genuine LOLd at Starmer's reference to Ant & Dec.
That “playing politics” bullshit is getting tired, fast.
And from a man that is (or at used to be when he had the right help) so good at "playing politics". He's a spent force... he'll need to get everyone back into the "all that matters is Brexit" mood to bolster his support. Expect lots of "control our borders" stuff in the run up to Christmas.
Everything is political, even a public health emergency. The competence of the government is a political issue. Boris says this because he has nowhere else to go to avoid addressing the question.
if that's true ^ he has to be toast
Why? He's not been toast yet and his actions have killed people by his decisions. He's lied to the queen. He's cheated on his wife. He's given billions to his friends.
He's still in power.
if that’s true ^ he has to be toast
Nope, no chance.
It's been said before, the Tories need him to take the flack for more Covid and Brexit based fun and games before they get rid. They want to be able to pin it all on him so any new person comes in with a cleaner slate.
He also knows where the bodies are buried, and he's the kind of guy who will take others down with him if he's pushed.
Boris getting downed by Carrie having a party to celebrate Cummings quitting would be delicious beyond belief.
the party at his flat on the 13th has been raised in the commons
I don’t get his constant accusations about Starmer playing politics. They’re politicians. It’s their job. It’s like complaining about plumbers doing plumbing.
Why?
Because the 'people' wlll care more about the party thing whereas they didn't care about lying to the queen lies concerning some parliamentary thing they don't understand.
He's now set it up for someone else to take the blame, unless it can be proved he was personally at some/one of them.
the party at his flat on the 13th has been raised in the commons
And he denied it. I can get that he might not attend the staff bash, so he has some deniability there, but a party, hosted by his wife, in his own residence?
If it happened, and a couple of guests stitch him up, I can't see how that's survivable. His reflex of lying first and trying to obfuscate later wouldn't be as effective in those circumstances.
Obviously, he'd chuck his wife under the bus given the option, the little shit.
Because the ‘people’ wlll care more about the party thing whereas they didn’t care about lying to the queen lies concerning some parliamentary thing they don’t understand.
That's right - 'No parties for me, but plenty for him' is a pretty simple concept compared to a primer on the conventions and powers of Parliament and the monarchy.
Allin-Khan's question hit hard. Well, hit me hard.
I almost miss having iPlayer available
I don’t get his constant accusations about Starmer playing politics. They’re politicians. It’s their job. It’s like complaining about plumbers doing plumbing.
It fits the narrative.
Boris isn't a politican, he's a man of the people, he's one of us, not one of those elite lefty liberal politicians, I could be Boris, good old Boris, he's trying his best, he's shaking things up, giving them what for, showing them who's boss.
Yes. I forgot that he’s not even achieved the level of a politician.
At least he didn't Tone Police Dr Rosena, like Javid did... Last week, was it?
He's still a p****.
The problem is not the opposition “playing politics”, the problem is Alexander Boris DePfeffel Johnson playing government. His actions, manner and style are those of a bossy child playing at being prime minister, issuing orders, dressing up on visits and blustering without doing any of the hard detailed work to achieve things, and without having a genuine political philosophy beyond self promotion to guide what he tries to achieve.
I'd like to think all of this will have an impact on Boris and his sycophants, but I don't think it will at all. There will be upset and anger which will go away all too soon and be forgotten about. Tired of it all, I would email my MP (Mark Spencer) but I did so before about Cummings and the reply just stuck up for him and Mark Spencer's tone towards me was one of "yeah whatever, you have already made up your mind". It was the first ever time I had emailed my local MP.
William Wragg; a Tory backbencher speaking about rumours in the press about Pan B and further lockdowns as "Diversionary tactics that will convince very few"
When your own MPs are starting to question your murdered cat routine...
I’m wondering if any Downing Street staff, having just been publicly thrown under the bus, might have a few things to leak this afternoon?
In the meantime we can all look forward to further restrictions just so that **** can try and change the news agenda
https://twitter.com/KirstyStricklan/status/1468575873091657729
at this point the only thing that will save Johnson is the next self-made crisis to come along & distract us from this one
Im sure he can fit in at least 2 more crises b4 xmas
In the meantime we can all look forward to further restrictions just so that **** can try and change the news agenda
With the problem being the restrictions are probably necessary but lots of people are going to assume they are not for this reason.
If there was a piss-up at No 10 last Christmas it’s very unlikely Boris organised it. Because, well, you know.
— Rory Bremner 💙 (@rorybremner) December 7, 2021
Hah, I like.
In the meantime we can all look forward to further restrictions just so that **** can try and change the news agenda
may well end up being his downfall, not going to go down well with the libertarian wing of the party and 1922 committee may receive more letters demanding change.
I’m wondering if any Downing Street staff, having just been publicly thrown under the bus, might have a few things to leak this afternoon?
Journos will have multiple threads to pull on over the next couple of days. <rubs hands>
The problem is not the opposition “playing politics”, the problem is Alexander Boris DePfeffel Johnson playing government.
I would [b]love[/b] to hear Keir Starmer say that in response to that phrase from Johnson!
Hey Mr Case, do you want to keep your job ? If you conclude rules were broken then you'll have to resign.
Im sure he can fit in at least 2 more crises b4 xmas
Two weeks to go. Given that we haven't heard much about Ireland or the French lately, perhaps the Northern provinces might have some floods or storm damage that Boris can avoid commenting on while he kicks back in his holiday retreat in Marbella or Monaco or wherever Carrie Antoinette has demanded they go this year to avoid the proles and that stressful, difficult, Prime Ministering job.
BoJo falling because of a Christmas party of fluffed speech is too low a crime for him to be recognised for. As a friend just tweeted - it is a bit like giving Harold Shipman a parking ticket.
He and the cabal around him are responsible for mismanagement, distraction, fraud, lies, putting personal gain before national interest. They and the staff around them, as was pointed out today, have blood on their hands.
While I would be pleased to see BoJo (and more) go, it actually lets them off the hook for the more serious crimes.
No investigations into others.
The PM promised to hand information about all parties to the police, not just information about the one on the 18th. I suppose he could argue that no investigation means that there is no information... but of course that's to pretend that there's no information in his own head about parties that happened under his watch, in his home, while he was there.
Bastard. Whamageddon!
Good job I hadn't clicked the link and sound is off anyway!
The problem is not the opposition “playing politics”, the problem is Alexander Boris DePfeffel Johnson playing government.
I would love to hear Keir Starmer say that in response to that phrase from Johnson!
Seems a pretty obvious response, would get loads of positive headlines and social media coverage, so I'm guessing not!
looks like Johnson has lost the cabinet (or they've refused to back plan B)
Well, there goes Ms Stratton under the bus. Sorted.
I think this might be the end of him. Or at least the start of the end. The scottish tory leader has now said he should resign if he lied to parliament. Won't take many more to make him go. Also some interesting theories out there about the fact that Stratton's husband is best mates with Sunak and godfather to his kids.
I'm amazed it took this long for Stratton to go
This piece in her husbands magazine today seemed particularly desperate, speccy really is a joke, their twitter feed has tweeted this out 5 times today
https://twitter.com/spectator/status/1468558381438930951?t=sg5gk-zEjJ06oCFpXgQOow&s=19
Well Allegra has just resigned. May this be the first domino to fall.
_If_ he lied? Just about this time, right?
Well, there goes Ms Stratton under the bus. Sorted.
only 49 ish to go.
Well Allegra has just resigned
From her massively paid non-job?
There was an article in the Guardian a few months ago saying that anyone who has anything to do with Johnson, in any capacity: private or professional, is ultimately betrayed by him and sacrificed on the alter of his ego
Another one bites the dust
You’d think that you could only go on making enemies of everyone at that rate for so long before it all catches up with you
He must surely be running out of road by now?
Allegra Stratton resigns. This is what frustrates me most about politics at UK level. It's nothing but a show, a farce. Sure there will great drama and tension,Various correspondents will gravely report about some one or other having no option but to "fall on their sword" or some other portentous metaphor. Then there will be some new faces but the same old show will roll on. You know that old Del Amitri song "Nothing ever happens nothing happens at all the needle returns to the start of the song and we all sing along like before"
I’m amazed it took this long for Stratton to go
I am also amazed that some people appear to believe that her not resigning might somehow have been acceptable.
This debacle has done, and will likely do further damage. It's all chipping away at his already diminished authority/credibility etc. While he'll probably survive this, he's one more scandal closer to the exit. And we know it won't be long before the next one.
Recent history suggests he'll be replaced by someone worse, but I'm not sure that's possible this time.
Resigned from the job of spokesperson for an event that is finished?
What a noble sacrifice
I have a special sort of loathing for the Telegraph / Spectator these days. Thanks to Fred Barclay, any decent journalists have long since departed and it's now the preserve of client journalism. Too many ministers publish op eds behind the Telegraph's paywall.
It's very interesting that the Daily Mail is in full on attack mode. I wonder if the DM's preferred candidate to replace Boris is about to get a leg up?
Recent history suggests he’ll be replaced by someone worse, but I’m not sure that’s possible this time.
I'm free!
Whamageddon!
nah. It's a cover. You're fine.
Whilst folks do rehearse 'lines', as they're known in the trade Allegra did rather lose the "n" ...
https://twitter.com/MarinaHyde/status/1468526979364368385?s=20
I have a special sort of loathing for the Telegraph / Spectator these days. Thanks to Fred Barclay, any decent journalists have long since departed and it’s now the preserve of client journalism. Too many ministers publish op eds behind the Telegraph’s paywall
It's a poisonous piece of work nowadays that's for certain. "Opinions", posing as news, for a long time.
It’s a poisonous piece of work nowadays that’s for certain. “Opinions”, posing as news, for a long time.
You are unbelievably naive if you think the likes of the Guardian are much different. Check out who the big philanthropic funders of the Guardian are and you can see that they are far from un-bias.
Same for the BBC and almost all others too. The Government followed by the pharmaceutical industry are by far the biggest advertisers with UK media. The media cannot afford to bite the hand that feeds it. Make of that what you will.
The Government followed by the pharmaceutical industry are by far the biggest advertisers with UK media.
What advertising do they buy on the BBC?
As much as I despise BoJo if he does go then he's just going be replaced by some Tory tosser that's a bit more astute when it comes to political games - they're not going to be any better for the country, so hard cause to celebrate 🙁
You are unbelievably naive if you think the likes of the Guardian are much different. Check out who the big philanthropic funders of the Guardian are and you can see that they are far from un-bias.
No-one mentioned the Guardian except you.
The Torygraph is still a poisonous sh*trag, regardless of what other papers are or aren't. I'm not 100% sure how advertising from big pharma and goverment factor into your point, but that's probably because I took the blue pill instead of the red one or something 😀
You are unbelievably naive if you think the likes of the Guardian are much different
Actually they are. The Guardian does a much better job separating news from opinions than the Daily Telegraph does.
And so does the BBC btw, since you chose to mention them.
The Government followed by the pharmaceutical industry are by far the biggest advertisers with UK media.
The government has indeed grown its advertising spend (Brexit + Covid) in recent years. Where does the pharmaceutical claim come from? I’d imagine consumer goods, retail and food dwarf drug advertising in the UK.