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Those charts just seem to reinforce that pretty much everyone seems to like the message that the Tories are putting out, that you can be a bit racist, hate the foreigners, not GAS about Northern Ireland.
Is that how "most" of the UK identifies now, or just the bubble that this poll was taken it?
Those charts just seem to reinforce that pretty much everyone seems to like the message that the Tories are putting out
Not everyone. In fact they indicate that most people (still) don’t.
Latest Westminster voting intention (12-13 Oct)
The ten percent lead for the Tories is bigger than it's been for a while but support for the Tories doesn't seem to have changed much.
41% isn't that much more than 39%, which is the lowest it's been for the Tories in over a month.
31% for Labour might represent no change from the last Yougov poll but it is significantly lower than Labour support in other recent polls.
No great surprise really when consider that the last time the Labour Leader made the headlines was a while back when he announced that in his opinion the next James Bond should be a woman.
No great surprise really when consider that the last time the Labour Leader made the headlines was a while back when he announced that in his opinion the next James Bond should be a woman.
Was that before or after he called for geronimo the alpaca to be killed? I can’t remember.
Trying to work out which thread to put this one in… I suppose this is the key one, as it sums up Johnson…
https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1448379454431055883?s=20
Wow. If that is not sticking the knife in, I don't know what is.
Takes one to know one springs to mind
Absolutely. Both narcissistic sociopaths. Both have “successfully” reshaped this country though, and got their time on the throne (or trestle table in the number ten rose garden).
It's a very good description though. I know someone IRL who fits it very well - they aren't lying exactly it's just that they don't really know or care whether it's true or not, they will just say whatever suits their purposes to get what they want. Similar superficial 'charm' also. Pretty classic sociopath/narcissist traits.
it’s just that they don’t really know or care whether it’s true or not, they will just say whatever suits their purposes to get what they want
Sounds like everyone on this forum who posts to these silly political threads. 😄
So is this the start of the Rishi camp's smear campaign? Yes he operated within the law by forming a Childcare support bubbble, but why did the story emerge now?
In Sumamry BoJo had a friend round last Christmas claiming she was part of a Childcare Support Bubble.
BBC News - Budget 2021: Ministers pledge £500m to support young families
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59018031
Or SureStart as it used to be known, pre-austerity.
I remember MrsMC bring up till 3am on election night prepping a court report to get some kid taken in to care at a cost of hundreds of pounds a week, and saying that early intervention via SureStart would probably have prevented it, for much lower cost.
Bunch of ****ing idiots.
Or SureStart as it used to be known, pre-austerity.
Some £82m will be given to 75 local authorities to fund the new family hubs
Shoe string budget? Or ready to blame local authorities for not delivering? SureStart budget was well over a £billion a year.
Anyway, closing SureStart centres damaged people’s lives and cost the country far more than was saved by closing them. They do need to return (the government can call them whatever they want if it saves them having to admit to the damage they’ve done), but they need to fund them properly. Done right, they save money.
Anyway, closing SureStart centres damaged people’s lives and cost the country far more than was saved by closing them. They do need to return (the government can call them whatever they want if it saves them having to admit to the damage they’ve done), but they need to fund them properly. Done right, they save money.
SureStart wasn't always spent wisely - our affluent middle class village with its various mums and toddler groups, and a "proper" Surestart 2 miles away, really didn't need one, but absolutely, invest in solving problems early before they become bigger, wider and more expensive problems
That SureStart centre would probably be covering a far larger geographic area than one in a less affluent area though. And like many services, more people may need them in more deprived areas, but all areas have some people who need them.
New Truss trade deal! We are now exporting Brown Windsor soup
When do we let the leopards loose in number 10…?
https://twitter.com/kateemccann/status/1452587817398415361?s=21
Johnson spotted @ cop26
I'm just been having a read of the BBC coverage of the COP26 summit.
I don't think I've ever believed anyone less than I believe Boris Johnson when he claims to give even the teeniest tiniest **** about climate change.
I despair for our future when we put it in the hands of self-serving clowns such as he.
I’m just been having a read of the BBC coverage of the COP26 summit.
I don’t think I’ve ever believed anyone less than I believe Boris Johnson when he claims to give even the teeniest tiniest **** about climate change.I despair for our future when we put it in the hands of self-serving clowns such as he.
+1
What is he up to now? I don't for 1 minute buy this new environment evangelist shtick. What's he trying to cover up?
He's just having his 15 minutes of fame hosting it, he doesn't believe in any of it (or anything else), the recent budget showed that, cutting tax on internal flights FFS.
Boris wants something other than the Brexit shambles to be his legacy, so he's waving the flag for global warming, other than that he couldn't give a toss.
He always does the same.
He tells any given group of people exactly what they want to hear, but it means absolutely nothing to him. He literally forgets them the second the words leave his lips and he’ll then happily stroll into another room and tell a different group of people the total opposite
He appears to be maintaining the tradition of being on the lash in Glasgow and sleeping it off at the conference. If anyone wondered why his suits looked a bit slept in...
He needs rendering down into soap.
I can't believe he'll be remembered for anything other than the things he's already infamous for.
He tells any given group of people exactly what they want to hear, but it means absolutely nothing to him. He literally forgets them the second the words leave his lips and he’ll then happily stroll into another room and tell a different group of people the total opposite
this
he is the boris johnson character performance artist, expert at reading the room
actually doing any of the stuff? who cares... his job as prime minister is to say things that the simple folk think are prime minister-y sorts of things to say, in order to get the prime minister re-elected.
So the buffoon blusters through another one of his word-soup after-dinner speeches about his commitment to the environment and combatting climate change, then heads straight to the airport to fly by private jet back to London
Because he leads by example and a private jet is obviously the most environmentally friendly way to travel from Glasgow to London
Because he leads by example and a private jet is obviously the most environmentally friendly way to travel from Glasgow to London
To be fair though, I was reading an interview with an activist who had just flown in from Brazil, so self-awareness deficiency syndrome is not unique to delegates it seems
an activist who had just flown in from Brazil
Should have got the train.
🤷🏻
Or a boat or maybe even swam for ultra eco points.
private jet from Brazil, must of cost a fortune.
He needs rendering down into soap.
bad idea, that would probably leave you with itchy skin, and the odour wouldn't be too pleasant either.
It's a shame video conferencing is still in it's infancy and hardly used anywhere for anything.
To be fair though, I was reading an interview with an activist who had just flown in from Brazil, so self-awareness deficiency syndrome is not unique to delegates it seems
I thought Prince Charles private jetting in from his latest jaunt to Italy to condescendingly lecture us plebs about our carbon footprints was a bit salty
He needs rendering down into soap.
Imperial Blather
<ripple of applause>
I thought Prince Charles private jetting in from his latest jaunt to Italy to condescendingly lecture us plebs about our carbon footprints was a bit salty
Far be it for me to defend Prince Charles, but what you've just done there is fallen into the trap of focusing on trivia rather than engaging with the bigger picture. He may not practice what he preaches, but he is right. There are much worse people to have a go at than Prince Charles on the subject of carbon emissions.
He may not practice what he preaches, but he is right.
Its not trivia to note that his belief in protecting the environment ends where his enjoyment starts.
So just after Black History Month, we have an article to say that a Johnson relative may have been a white slave but it did them no harm. What a co-incidence when BHM brings up the issue of reparations.
Its not trivia to note that his belief in protecting the environment ends where his enjoyment starts.
It is though isn't it? Because every one of us is guilty of that. Until we abandon this ridiculous and childish game of pointing out the failings in others the climate issue will never be solved. I'm surprised at how many people here who are normally 'on the left' don't seem to get this. Climate change goes far beyond rich vs poor or right vs left.
It is though isn’t it? Because every one of us is guilty of that
Speak for yourself. I can, hand on heart, honestly say that I’ve completely cut out my personal private jet and helicopter travel and I’m now using chip fat in my fleet of Bentleys and getting the servants staff to collect and shovel McDonalds packaging into the furnace to heat my 150 room stately home
Should have followed his old mate Jimmy Savile's advice & used the train!
every one of us is guilty of that. Until we abandon this ridiculous and childish game of pointing out the failings in others the climate issue will never be solved
Because it is so hypocritical of people like Bezos to pledge $2bn to "restore nature" after grasping Earth's fragility after his big joy ride into space. How much resources and carbon did he use just to get Capt Kirk into space for 5 minute?
Plentyof people know action is needed without the need for the vanity project.
Its all PR... lots of special people banking their "i was there and i told you so" position for 20 years down the line while climbing back into their private jets safe in the knowledge it wont be their shit show to manage in 2050.
Wont even be in the news by Wednesday.
I've just been listening to Daliso Chapanda (sp?) on radio 4
He's just come out with....
"At Cop, the African countries are asking how they see the world leaders such as Boris Johnson. And you know, it's awkward, because we have had terrible leaders like Gaddaffi, Idi Amin and Mugabe.
But you, YOU ELECTED THEM!"
Even Africa is laughing at Blojo..
Johnson supports changing the rules to bail out Owen Paterson from being suspended and Special K abstained. What was considered a crime in the 90s has now been institutionalised.
Special K abstained.
I thought he wasn't there today? That's why Rayner did PMQs.
What was considered a crime in the 90s has now been institutionalised.
Indeed. People mock other countries because they find their politicians guilty of crimes. Where as our politicians make sure that their actions are made legal, no matter how "corrupt" they would be in another country... in a democratic country.
Johnson supports changing the rules to bail out Owen Paterson from being suspended and Special K abstained.
Thats because he is isolating still!
Did he pair?
The government imposed a three line whip, so he wouldn’t have been able to arrange a pairing.
The story here is nothing to do with Starmer or any other Labour MP, not sure why you want to make it so.
My m.p abstained, so he’s got some principles just not enough to do the right thing, even though he thought the amendment was not compatible with the high standards expected of mp’s - spineless.
slavery whitewashing
So just after Black History Month, we have an article to say that a Johnson relative may have been a white slave but it did them no harm. What a co-incidence when BHM brings up the issue of reparations.
Reading the article, my take is that Stanley Johnson’s great-grandfather (and Alexander Boris dePfeffel Johnson’s great-great grandfather) was a 43 year old child rapist.
One of our local Tory MP headbangers voted against, which is a real surprise. Must be bad for him to rebel
Did he pair?
I think we can safely assume that there's no way of finding out, and therefore the only possibly conclusion to be drawn is that he did not, and it's probably a no-brainer that the reason he definitely did not pair is because he couldn't be ****ed because he loves corruption and the Tories.
Hanging's too good for him!
How can I find out how my MP voted guys?
I'd put money on how she voted but just want to check!
The vote split... Aye, 247 tories, 1 DUP, and 1 "independent" who is actually a Tory suspended for sexual harassment of one of his employees who again would have had his ass fired in almost any other job.
no, literally everyone ****ing else because of course.
I think Johnsos base won't care much about it all but in vulnerable seats Tory exceptionalism will cut through
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1456041552871100418?s=20
no, literally everyone ****ing else because of course
Of course. And if it wan’t for the cult of Johnson, more Tory MPs would have done the right thing as well. They’ll vote for anything if he insists, no matter the future damage to their own reputation, or the reputation of parliament and politicians more generally.
Hanging’s too good for him!
Is this satire?
The idea that Starmer, or Miliband, or Trickett, or any other Labour MP absent today would have done anything other than vote against if present is for the birds.
No pairing would have been in operation as Conservative MPs were under a three line whip.
Riksbar
Full Member
Vote results here.And this is Chris Bryant MP’s speech explaining the standards committee’s decision.
Yeah, just as as expected, she voted for the amendment.
I ******* hate this government.
17 vote gap and 40-odd abstentions from opposition parties. I know some will have been isolating but t<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">here were also a number of tories that abstained - do we know that some pairing wasn't done against the whip anyway?</span>
I read on Twitter there was pairing.
The Mails front page is after them.
Torygraph and Express seem to have missed the whole thing.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/03/owen-paterson-his-claims-and-how-they-stack-up-in-analysi s">Guardian Summary
Yuck
40-odd abstentions from opposition parties
MPs who were absent. The leader of the house stopped voting remotely because the “pandemic is over”. Yet we now have an outbreak in the House of Commons that prevents many MPs from attending and voting.
Paterson is clearly a squirrel here. Johnson and the Tory top brass are happy for all the headlines to point in that direction and after the new sleaze commission is set up they will sacrifice the expendable Paterson in a wholly unexpected explosion of zeal to root out corruption ….thus allaying all those who are hard of thinking that actually everything is above board.
Meanwhile all the proper criminality which this bunch of scum have been getting away with as they shamelessly trouser public assets and associated wealth will be brushed under the carpet by this sham committee set up specifically to protect the top generals.
Paterson is clearly a squirrel here. Johnson and the Tory top brass are happy for all the headlines to point in that direction and after the new sleaze commission is set up they will sacrifice the expendable Paterson in a wholly unexpected explosion of zeal to root out corruption
Boris was supposedly the next one up in front of Standards Committee (again) over the Downing Street flat refurbishment so yes, I'd say there's definitely some self-interest in making sure that it gets a major overhaul before he has to face it again.
Cummings really is fun these days
https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1456192905580843009?t=PeUnRzR0E1g3fdb6v1VG5A&s=19
The Paterson farce could well have been Johnsons Black Wednesday
That said he still isnt that unpopular among voters
its his own party hes alienated with his incompetence
interesting to see how that plays out
https://twitter.com/mrjimbob/status/1458491930111795207?s=21
You have to admit, the man is funny…
"I think what you have got is cases where, sadly, MPs have broken the rules in the past, may be guilty of breaking the rules today. What I want to see is them facing appropriate sanctions."
🤡
It would be funny if it was over.
Only last week he 3-line-whipped to prevent sanctions against Owen Paterson.
I know people will often knock the source but in this case obviously the singer from Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine is obviously above reproach.
He is in my mind. I have a Twitter list set up for musical heroes (and wannabes) that I go to when trying to avoid politics. That came up and ruined it all… but so few words holding so much truth in them… led by donkeys… and Johnson is King Donkey.
Does anyone know what the point is of Allegra Stratton?
She’s on channel 4 news now. Since she was taken on as ‘Boris Johnson’s spokesman’ this is the first time I’ve seen her
So much for appearing in his 2 million quid press room. The one that looks like something they’d knock up at a Travel Lodge for a photocopier sales conference
Spokesperson for a man with absolutely nothing to say. As non-jobs Goni bet it’s pretty well paid
I think you mean "nothing valuable to say" he says words, frequently.
Slight hijack.
While you guys are agonizing on PM Johnson you have taken your eye off the main issue which is the Communist China (not Chinese people but the Communist govt). If you think HK is now living in 1984, think again as their next target is Taiwan. If Taiwan falls, Asia will fall and your current lifestyle will come to the past. They will use all the tricks in the book to ensure they dominate over Asia. Your global warming agenda etc will be history.
Current issues in China:
1. Property bubble burst
2. Panic food buying or stocking in many regions (government encourages the people to stock up ...)
3. Coal shortage (price has increased by 50% to 100% in some region). Officially no central heating is allowed until 1 Nov
4. Price inflation - food price increase.
5. Shortage of petrol
6. Increase surveillance of people movement (try HK to experience for yourself)
7. Xi may need to boost his profile by 2022 to remain forever
8. May initiate first mover advantage to take Taiwan while "Let's go Brandon" is in power
9. Trusted sources from the east is that all the information i.e. numbers or data, Chinese Communist govt presents to the world is all cooked up
10. Oh ya they buy people to influence or to help them continue their propaganda
The question now is trying to figure out how deep their tentacles have embedded in the western system. i.e. stealing tech secret etc. Also their influence in the western democracy.
Your climate change, global warming whatever ambition will come to the past once Asia is in China's total control.
Wake up!
Knock!
Knock!
Wake up!
The world greatest danger now is Chinese Communist with their invisible hands.
Turn your attention to China.
I was about to say we might have a new trollbot but no, we don't.
Shhhh! Don't feed the Trash Panda.
Nigerian anti corruption czar calls out Johnson's claim that UK is "Not Corrupt"
It's Ok everyone we have an anti-corruption Czar as well, his name is John Penrose, he's married (just in case you were wondering) to Dido Harding...so ner ner to the Nigerians, eh?
Have the Chinese developed a death ray yet?