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eddie - yes!
Tis amazing news indeed. Now we just need BoJo to cry a bit in his fridge, get his big boy pants on and admit he is not fit to lead a cubs troup let alone the country and sod of to the US as a Republican
It’s neither here nor there though really, is it?
We’ll all be left suffering from the car crash he’s orchestrated. They’re all just going to wander off to count their millions and leave the grown ups to try to clear up the smouldering wreckage they’ve left in their wake
Cummings getting out before the inevitable train wreck, glad he's going, would like to see him pay for his crimes against the state though.
Edit beaten by Binners.
don't believe a word out of no 10
Giventhat I think its likely once they have secured the no deal brexit they have been after and Johnson will go shortly into the new year
He said he'd go by the end of the year, I think we were all too cynical to believe him.
I fear he hasn't technically committed crimes against the nation he can be tried for, but it bloody feels like it.
Edit - he's not leaving Boris to coordinate Gove's campaign to succeed him next year, is he? 😱
I don’t see Cummings leaving as good at all. As binners says, he’s just scuttling off before there is a chance he can be held accountable. The damage is done and he has ‘won’ so why stick around?
The guardian yesterday said that an MP had been saying BoJo was one more mistake away from being replaced. The shambles-o-meter is at an all time high. You’d have to be deranged to want to pick up his mess so Gove must be a shoe-in
Edit – he’s not leaving Boris to coordinate Gove’s campaign to succeed him next year, is he?
That could well be it.
Gove’s campaign to succeed him next year
I don't think Gove could ever be made PM by the Conservatives after what happened...twice. I don''t even they're that cynical/desperate. (mind you they did make Howard their leader, so what do I know?)
I think they need to keep the clown in charge until brexit is done (whatever shape that will be) because no one in their right mind will want to oversee that shambles (might as well credit Bozo with the whole mess) once delivered they will try and distance themselves from 'that' tory party, don't let them they have all sat back and watched this happen from the sidelines.
I'm not convinced that him going is a good thing.....after a decade of thinking that things can't get any worse, I'm now fully awake to the fact that it can....and would if Gove got in. A truly horrifying thought.
Disappear sharpish before the actual reality of Brexit hits everyone. He's got what he wanted, Boris was just the useful idiot to carry out the plan and now, having nicely managed to get millions in contracts awarded to his father-in-law, the little weasel is getting out.
Boris is soon going to find himself completely abandoned. The people he thought were his best mates and closest advisors have used him ruthlessly and ****ed off. His party think he's a total liability and an embarrassment. Europe know he's a liar. America's new president thinks he's inept.
Boris is going to be left standing there like the bewildered parent at their teenage son's houseparty looking around at the chaos and destruction. Everyone around him has drunk all the booze, had a lovely time and buggered off taking the family silver with them and leaving the walls smeared with shit and vomit.
Cummings meanwhile will have a little get out clause somewhere. Dual nationality or some connection via his wife and in-laws. Teflon coated little shit.
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Crazy-legs has it.
But you are selling De Pfeffel short.
Both the US and EU know he is both inept and a liar.
He used them nearly as much as they used him, though. He got to live out his little Churchill fantasy for a bit too. He'll be off in fairly short order as well.
Long covid, stress of the job, broke himself for his country in fighting the biggest national crisis since the war etc.
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He got to live out his little Churchill fantasy for a bit too.
Couldn’t keep up with the drinking, mind...
That was my thinking too, that there would be a visa to somewhere like America where he had a job lined up for some senator or something, maybe with some sort of honour in the system for his work leading up to Brexit from Johnson and Gove
some sort of honour
If Cummings or Johnson end up on an honours list it’d be a national disgrace of the highest order.
some sort of honour
Cummings will get his Hero of the Russian Federation, probably at the same ceremony as Melania
That was my thinking too, that there would be a visa to somewhere like America where he had a job lined up for some senator or something, maybe with some sort of honour in the system for his work leading up to Brexit from Johnson and Gove
As a senator (or mayor) - After a short time sobering up, that'll be Johnson's next job.
Cumming's - after meeting his "airline" mates at a Black Sea resort, along with Banks and Farage, will be off to NZ/Oz to wreak their special blend of ****ing shit.
There's enough politicians in Europe and the US who want to give Johnson a bloody nose. Gove is too close to Cummings, bold brexiteers are not going to be too popular. Boris will be left to face Jan 1st and then the business owners will be getting very loud about parking up in Kent, bureaucracy and devaluation. Lots of news coverage for the silly season, drums beating in NI. Cummings is already doing a runner.
I have read that Carrie was/is getting 150k as a 'spad'. The fact that all this goes on without too much comment reflects the venality of parliament, millionaire snouts in the trough and so many of them are landlords (Squirmer is onside) that it won't pan out well for renters. The Tories are brutally effective with their replacement service but you'd have to be naive to think an absent Cummings or Johnson will make much difference.
'Respect, integrity and trust' (B Jenkin R4) 'is the message of what's needed', it's all about f messages and messengers, Cain, Coulson, Saatchis, Tim Bell, nudgers, this is the respect they have for the electorate.
Boris is soon going to find himself completely abandoned. The people he thought were his best mates and closest advisors have used him ruthlessly and **** off.
Apprently Boris doesn't really have friends, and I'd assume his relationship with the Vote Leave campaign was a marriage of convenience in which both parties got what they wanted.
Of course Brexit will have a much longer-lasting and more-damaging legacy than anything BoJo manages not to achieve as PM - and we can all take some very dark schadenfreude from the timing of Covid rapidly accelerating his failure (and from the reality of his premiership being so wildly different to the way he probably imagined it).
His party think he’s a total liability and an embarrassment. Europe know he’s a liar. America’s new president thinks he’s inept.
Absolutely. He's shedding these controversial aides in a last-ditch attempt to save his own skin. But he's living on borrowed time for sure.
I fear Boris needs to stay until the Brexit disaster begins to play out properly, because no rational Tory will want to take the role and have their own reputation destroyed by it, and we don't want any more irrational Tories in power, thank you very much. Short term, it's better the devil you know.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, there is an EU summit on the 19th on November. A decision is needed by then or there is no time to get anything through by the end of the year.
They've - we've - run out of road. Caught in a web of lies and sheer incompetence.
Very true Morecash, never has there been a more poisoned chalice than this.
But also, it's not like you wouldn't have a good selection of excuses available.
From Coldwar Steve:
Absolutely. He’s shedding these controversial aides in a last-ditch attempt to save his own skin. But he’s living on borrowed time for sure.
I think it's the other way around. They're shedding him.
Boris is quite useful to people like Cummings. He's short on details, likes the perks of the job but without really wanting the responsibilities and (for a while at least) he was popular with both party and people. That allows him to be used, you can run all sorts of laws past him without him really cottoning on to what you're doing. Now they've made their millions, got what they wanted and Boris is no longer useful, he's a liability.
They're getting rid of him.
Is that Ringo Starr making off with the last leg of lamb?
crazy-legs+1
Boris is a useful idiot.
Cummings has done his job. There's no time or space to turn the Brexit Bus around now, it's all but in the bag. He'll be there for as long as he thinks necessary to ensure he Bags a Brexit. And then off to his own personal sunny uplands, another gig manipulating another public for another billionaire.
Wait, what? Carrie is getting paid as a SPAD? Citation needed for that as I am amazed that no one has be FOI-ing that and publicising it
Re. Summit on the 19th. So this is one final last dead cat to get them over the line without scrutiny?
Re. Summit on the 19th. So this is one final last dead cat to get them over the line without scrutiny?
There is nothing left to scrutinise. The choice is simple, no deal or the thinnest of thin deals. Boris needs to decide. It's displacement activity while he avoids the decision.
It’s displacement activity while he avoids the decision.
The answer.....will be.....at the.....bottom......of......that next bottle.......I......just......know it!
Cummings walks out and then Boris has to self-isolate for two weeks. Coincidence? Or him panicking because he’s not got anyone to tell him what to do?
And will anyone seriously notice if Boris is missing for 2 weeks. That’s just the norm anyway
https://twitter.com/bbcbreaking/status/1328077100016865282?s=21
Johnson is just such a dickhead it is just getting boring now.
How long until he ****s off?
The useless dipstick.
Coincidence?
Just another balls up, I imagine.
So, supposedly getting it, then recovering doesn’t make you immune? Or is he the kid at school who had more than 4 grandparents shuffle off?
Been in contact, has to self isolate.
Irish have already tracked 3 or 4 who have had C19 twice tbf.
Christ he's a useless shite.
2nd time lucky perhaps?
God, that's going to set off the "Boris never had covid" people...
Very convenient excuse for it not being BoJo’s fault when the final Brexit talks fail!
Social distancing not happening in No 10?
If he’s self isolating on his own, away from Carrie and the (unknown number of) kids, that’s going to be one hell of a drinks order with Ocado
What an absolute f**** farce this guy and his f*** government is.
He must go down in the history books as the most incompetence PM of modern time, perhaps ever? Leading the most incompetent government.
Go and self isolate again whilst "WFH" (yes I know and agree he should isolate of course) you utter turd of a man.
Breath......
Can't he get tested?
I would have thought that in a position as "important" as his, there would be regular anti body testing to track the strength of his immunity.
Genuine question though, can you still be a speader if you're immune?
Why's Johnson saying "I'm as fit as a butchers dog" again, on the news this morning.... he looks like he just got out a coffin to me.
He was misquoted. Fat. Fat as a butchers dog.
Why doesn’t he find out what his mate trump took and do the same?
......or is he going to trial the vaccine and magically be better by the weekend?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/16/dominic-cummings-no10-boris-johnson
Pretty damning summary of Boris' government. I wish more within the party would speak up.
Hmm... Just watched his video announcement. He looks rough as f***. This sounds like an excuse to hide away from the events of last week.
Probably been on a huge bender since classic Dom did one. I'd look rough too.
Cummings gone, Brexit needs done, busy week of that ahead......ah, eh, uh, oh yes, Covid, someone had it, I snogged them, better go off the grid for a bit, Cue pictures of the (current) missus in Lapland or some ****
a vacuum of detail, industry and integrity
Grieve sums Blohard up perfectly....
Nice epitaph.
Why’s Johnson saying “I’m as fit as a butchers dog” again, on the news this morning…. he looks like he just got out a coffin to me.
Because he is based solely on reverting to the same lies and the same spiel.
He used to do dinner parties telling the same jokes no matter the audience - the act was always the same bluster which, because he hadn't wrecked the country at that point, was actually fairly amusing to the slightly tipsy business classes who attended these sort of things.
He finds a slogan or phrase and sticks by it:
Oven ready deal. Get Brexit done. Fit as a butcher's dog.
Cover it in some nationalistic pomp and circumstance, chuck in some basic Latin, wow the audience, go and shag someone else's wife. That act has long since been seen through and he's got no new material.
Boris's butcher's dog.
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Why’s Johnson saying “I’m as fit as a butchers dog” again, on the news this morning…. he looks like he just got out a coffin to me.
Agree, he did look pretty rough. Although people he has worked with in the past said he doesn't really believe in getting sick and you just battle on and keep going, his downfall last time.
I think the bigger concern is him telling the world hes "bursting with antibodies" its pretty common knowledge peoples antibodies go down after having covid, chances are he had it so long ago he doesn't have any antibodies... unless hes had an antibody recently that is. Give it a few days and the tories will push out the same lines we know its a virus that doesnt discriminate, (unless your of cause your black, poor or both), PM has shown great courage and all that nonsense.
he doesn’t really believe in getting sick and you just battle on and keep going
Which does rather explain so much of the uk gov too-little-too-late response to the pandemic.
PM has shown great courage and all that nonsense.
I've seen him playing tennis.
Etc.
Agree, he did look pretty rough. Although people he has worked with in the past said he doesn’t really believe in getting sick and you just battle on and keep going, his downfall last time.
I think the real story ,is that the useless bag of shit may have post viral fatigue(Long Covid) and he is trying to cure it with booze.
Chatting to my better half over lunch she made a good point about Boris's comments.
If the App pinged him to say he had been too close to someone found to be positive, then he can't have been social distancing as he claims, because the App is set only to trigger is you are within xm for y amount of time (not sure of values for England). The App assesses exposure time and proximity, not actual exposure to virus.
If he was correctly social distancing, then the App shouldn't have picked up a potential exposure, unless it is flawed.
So, Boris fibbing about social distancing or App is less than world-beating? Of course, it could also be both! (or neither and he's just looking for an option to duck out of a potentially awkward PMQ on Wednesday)
he doesn’t really believe in getting sick and you just battle on and keep going
When his best is barely functioning, who would notice if he just died at his desk or battled on?
“But it is very very important that in this conversation we don’t allow whatever I may have said or done to cloud the issue.” (Guardian) Says it all really.
'Johnson’s fiancee, Carrie Symonds, and other staffers this week...' (Guardian)
So: no masks, windows closed, much less than 2m apart - and lo and behold....
Also, let's remind ourselves about the other person pictured here:
Lee Anderson, who is standing for the Tories in Ashfield in Nottinghamshire, forgot he was wearing a live microphone while he phoned his friend to set up the fake encounter to impress a journalist
“Make out you know who I am... you know I’m the candidate, but not a friend, alright?” Mr Anderson was recorded saying as he spelled out instructions to his friend minutes before bringing a journalist to his door.
The candidate also appeared to lie about the content of the phone call, commenting to the reporter as he hung up that it was about “some leaflets that have just come for me”.
I can’t believe that Johnson is getting away with yet another skive. This is 2020, he can do a press conference and take question from within No10, but no, he makes a stupid little video about being bursting with antibodies. Truly a PM for our reality celebrity TV times.
Trump and Boris are brothers who were separated at birth I think.
Most world leaders have avoided being exposed, by the oh so difficult means of just doing exactly what they're telling the public to do and no more. Johnson is one of the few who failed at that, and one of the tiny minority that have actually caught the thing, and now he's failed at the basics <again>. And not only that but exposed half the government.
It's obviously a total lack of competence but more seriously it's an absolute absence of leadership and even the slightest effort to lead by example. Literally every skeptic in the country is going "one rule for you another for me" tonight. What an absolute ****.
I can’t believe that Johnson is getting away with yet another skive. This is 2020, he can do a press conference and take question from within No10, but no, he makes a stupid little video about being bursting with antibodies. Truly a PM for our reality celebrity TV times.
He's not got long left to hold out now, though. Jan 1st and No Deal = mission accomplished.
Just when you think Boris can't be more inept...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54965585
He's probably only concerned because Sturgeon is running rings around him from a political point of view.
Once again proving his complete ignorance to anything outside of the M25.
The SNP will be loving those comments.
Alexa Stratton has only been PM for a day & already her deputy has gifted the SNP another tranche of vote
Hes also having to isolate because he & his MPs can't use Zoom and are seemingly exempt from distancing & mask rules like the rest of us have to deal with in work
I think it was Hancock on R4 yesterday suggesting they didn't need masks or distance because No10 is a covid secure environment. That went well then.
Boris's thinking:
We're in the middle of a global pandemic with the country under lockdown, over 50,000 are dead, Brexit is looming with the talks about the collapse, leading to no deal economic chaos in January and because I'm a *ing idiot, incapable of following my own guidelines, I'm stuck self-isolating during this critical time. I've just lost my closest aids and the chaos in number 10 is now the big news story
Should I maybe show a bit of contrition? Try and bring about a period of relative calm and stability? Attempt to be statesmanlike?
Nah... * that! I'll open up another front and pick another completely unnecessary fight that will further alienate another huge tranche of people and further distract from the critical matters I actually should be dealing with.
I don't know about just being the most inept clown of a PM we've ever had, he's in hot contention for being the most incompetent national leader the world has ever seen.
The UK now looks like a complete Banana Republic. And the blame for that lies completely at his door.
I still find it completely beyond belief that this utter ****ing moron is in number 10, playing occasionally at being PM.
It's embarrassing. And this is just the warm up act for the true calamity that awaits us in January under the 'leadersship' of this buffoon
Yeah but....under Corbyn....
I think it was Hancock on R4 yesterday suggesting they didn’t need masks or distance because No10 is a covid secure environment. That went well then.
'Honest Bob' Jenrick's turn today, bullshitting and lying for his master. Both Jenrick and Hancock are cut from the same cloth. Jumped up little pillocks who would never have got near the top table in normal (non-Brexit) times and now being trotted out to look like tossers defending this oaf.
They are wedded to him through lies and bullshit.
Once again proving his complete ignorance to anything outside of the M25.
I don't think it is ignorance, or a mistake... he is where he is by riding a wave of English Nationalism... especially in the seats taken by the MPs he was speaking to... he wants to send them "home" (many don't live in their seats) with an "English First", "Put those Scots in their place", soundbite for their voters.
I did find it ironic that they wheeled out John Redwood this morning to have a pop at Scottish Nationalists, and decry nationalist policies. Seriously.... the lifelong cheerleader for Brexit, which is basically just an exercise in toxic, falg-waving English nationalism
You really couldn't make it up. They don't really do irony these Brexiteers, do they?
In the meantime I see Boris himself in the deploying that perennial old favourite of his, the 'Jedi Mind Trick' defence, where he comes out and states that he didn't actually say what everyone clearly heard him say.
It basically means that he's drunk enough vodka already today that he now thinks he's Yoda.
Remind me again when the Brexit deadline is?
I wonder how many people will die of Covid today?
God help us, with this drunken idiot flailing around number 10
When can we get rid of this odious turd?
There must be someone in the "conservative" party that can do better? No?
No10 is a covid secure environment
I detest that phrase.
There must be someone in the “conservative” party that can do better? No?
Be careful what you wish for...
No 10 is Covid secure, it seems to contain it very effectively.