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Cumstains makes me wince
I solved this by avoiding dark coloured sheets....
Or is that the name of a Steel Panther album? If not, it should be.
Sorry - immature and puerile but I couldn't help it.
binners
Full MemberIt seems it’s perfectly fine to undermine the UK economy for personal profit as long as you wave your little Union Jack as you do so and talk like Mr Chumley Warner
If you’re a disaster capitalist then English Nationalism really is the gift that never stops giving
Sadly so true, there are a few deluded fools at work who honestly think we still have an empire and spout guff about "once we are free from Europe the world is ours!"
I just shake my head and slowly walk away.
Yep... a big chunk of the UK population have had images of spitfires and talk of the blitz spirit used to sell them a sepia tinted dream of empire.
In reality Boris and his fellow snake oil salesmen, responsible for this, are doing the polar opposite of restoring ‘Britain’s glorious colonial past’.
They’re going to cause more damage to the British economy than any foreign power could ever dream of inflicting. We’re placing economic sanctions on our own economy. Declaring a trade war on ourselves.
Utter madness! And they’re doing this to make a quick financial killing for them and their mates, then they’ll be off, leaving carnage in their wake.
They’re correctly assumed that if you wrap it up in red, white and blue while singing Rule Brittania, you can literally get away with anything
It’s tragic
'Blitz Spirit'.
The big difference being that there actually was a proper threat in those days, which wasn't self-inflicted.
I imagine the rest of the world look at us with a mixture of amusement and pity.
People were utter arseholes to one another during the blitz. No change really.
The Stranglers played Grassington Festival a couple of years ago, during No More Heroes they added an extra refrain:
"Boris Johnson, he ****ed the country and did a runner"
Sadly prescient so far.
The thing about the "blitz spirit" is that in this case, brexiteers, covid spreaders, mask deniers, and government racketeers are the luftwaffe.
That’s what influenced people’s vote for or against Brexit though, wasn’t it?
Do you deal in reality? Or some mythical fairy tale of glorious pluckiness sold to you by a cartoon character?
Do you deal in reality? Or some mythical fairy tale of glorious pluckiness sold to you by a cartoon character?
You take the easy fantasy option if you have spent the last 25 years reading 'newspapers' that tell you how outraged you should be by stuff that actually doesn't really affect you. And that direct your unwarranted anger at strategically chosen minorities.
I don’t know if public enquiries will still be a thing when this lot are done.
They will, but they'll probably resemble this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nPk43lZPkTI
Today's tweet of the day had the line:
"Boris Johnson, out of his depth on a wet pavement".
God help me, but Piers Morgan is becoming a bit of a hero
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/morgan-slams-boris-johnson-on-gmb-1-6825157
BBC get the ministers - enticed by the underarm bowling of football focus presenter Dan Walker.
ctk - let's get the facts straight.
Piers has been hammering johnson and the other clowns since any of them last appeared on GMB - 133 days and counting; he hammered them before their boycott started.
Dan Walker is soft soap - but his employer is beholden to the gov so they put up their stooges regularly with no fear of being questioned or criticised.
The tory government now refuse to have ministers be interviewed on Channel 4 News, BBC Today programme, BBC Newsnight and Good Morning Britain.
Have a think about that. That’s democracy, apparently
Anyone who might actually demand some answers and not just ask us what our favourite biscuit is, is now barred from proceedings
That’s how much respect Boris Johnson has for democracy
Yep, dark times. Government by leak/twitter.... and resignations.
That’s how much respect Boris Johnson has for democracy
And that's what EVERY news outlet should trumpeting
The tory government now refuse to have ministers be interviewed on Channel 4 News, BBC Today programme, BBC Newsnight and Good Morning Britain.
Have a think about that. That’s democracy, apparently
Remember, we must protect our proud tradition of the free press from those Extinction Rebellion scoundrels.
I see that Mark Francois, of the tory headbangers cult, the ERG has been quietly removed from his post of Leader. Does anyone know of any reason why?
I see that Mark Francois, of the tory headbangers cult, the ERG has been quietly removed from his post of Leader. Does anyone know of any reason why?
Hasn’t he said anything in parliament?
I daresay a quick google search will reveal some possible reasons, unrelated to ERG matters.
No it couldn't be could it?
He’s not just been removed from the ERG, he’s literally disappeared off the face of the earth. Not answering constituency’s enquiries. Not been in Parliament. All social media accounts deleted, etc.
That’s the trouble with being such an annoying little attention-seeking gobshite. When you’re not around, people notice.
Why could little Mark suddenly feel the need to retreat from public view? It remains a mystery...
Self isolating after a holiday?
On manoeuvres?
Gone deep cover cant talk about it?
Super special important manoeuvres infiltrating the dastardly EU cabal - but shhhh - don't mention it.
Or perhaps something else.
Well, Monday's new Coronavirus restrictions have been made official now... and it of course means that from Monday Johnson isn't allowed to be with all his children at once, inside or outside... not that the older ones would be prepared to let that happen anyway.
[ Yes, that's an attack on the man not the policies. Not sorry. ]
Aaaand there it is. Schools shut as a very last resort.
Parents and pupils reassured that schools are safe no need to tell staff that because....
This is what I keep saying about even the US not being stupid enough to Express their racist/xenophobic tantrum in a way that is lasting in the long term.
If Trump isn't reelected, 'we' are the outlier still practicing politics by pant-shitting tantrum....
^^^
I'm currently reading Peter Oborne's book on ****stan cricket. I've only noted one error so far (in a footnote) in a huge undertaking of research and corroboration. He is a fine author and researcher.
Johnson never believed in Brexit. He just took the opportunity offered. Well, screw him. If you are destroyed as a result of your own lies and dissembling then tough titty.
And duly noted the emphasis on 'sober'.
The lovely Marina Hyde on great form.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/11/tories-trick-cock-up-dominic-cummings
No matter how much of a 360-degree shitshow the government’s handling of the pandemic or its own Brexit process has been, there are people even now claiming that every cock-up or exploding gambit is a genius tactic by our wisers and betters, brilliantly designed to achieve a very specific aim. I guess it makes these cheerleader analysts feel clever. Or to put it another way: every Rorschach blot looks like a fanny if that’s what you’re after.
That's worth much lolz. I may wait a week or so and pass it off as my own.
It really is Downfall isn't it. Only rather than a ranting Adolf in charge we've had the good sense to choose Goring.
Marina is a sort of court scribe for this period in UK history. We won’t need historians to evaluate the era. Just publish her columns.
Looks like the rumours are doing the rounds again in Tory circles that the fly-tipped sofa (another one of Marina’s) is going to be gone in January. Ill health and ‘personal issues’ apparently.
But the other news is that Rishi is now out of favour as he had the nerve to raise the idea of tax rises for the rich to pay for everything and is therefore now regarded as a communist.
Names in the frame as successors? Dominic Raab and Priti Patel.
Remember the good old days when we had Dave and we didn’t think it could get any worse?
Remember the good old days when we had Dave and we didn’t think it could get any worse?
One of those things you never expected to read.....
Mental, isn’t it? It’s been the law of diminishing returns ever since
The worst thing is that you know we’ve not bottomed our yet. Whoever the Tory party inflict us will be, somewhat unbelievably, even worse! 😳
Just think who those Daily Mail reading, retired majors and demented blue-rinse old racists are going to inflict on us next?
It’s going to be Dominic Raab/Patrick Bateman isn’t it?
Hold on, is Micheal Fabricant real or a Steve Coogan character?
fabricant is a cheap wig on legs.
fabricant is a cheap wig on legs.
Predominantly, though, he is a ****.
Talk about someone who is utterly useless in any other sphere rising through politics and you are imagining him.
No intrinsic merit whatsoever outside of his little group.
He says no time for questions
So, at a time of constitutional crisis he hasn’t even got the time to bothered to answer questions from his own MPs?’
And he’s doing what else, exactly? Seeing as he pops his head up once a week, for the half an hour he’s legally obliged too
The arrogance of the man is unbelievable!
If there’s any justice in the world then when the carnage he’s instigated plays out he’ll be swinging from a lamppost.
Gove and Cummings too
It’s what they deserve
Hmm… they don’t mind him being a part time PM… but part time leader…? That might worry them.
danny's - you said...
No intrinsic merit whatsoever outside of his little group.
Unfortunately, that is not unique to the tories; labour have many MPs who can be similarly categorised.
The majority of them are as thick as mince. The ones who weren’t have been booted out of the party
Just look at them! FFS!
I could put together a pub football team at my local with more intellectual clout than the morons presently occupying cabinet positions
They’re now doing things that any previous government would regard as unthinkable
Come next week though, every Tory MP will line up in Parliament and vote for Boris to break international law and plunge us into no deal, and all the resulting chaos because they’re all spineless, morality-free self-serving bastards
They’re going to bankrupt this country and make this nation a pariah state because they simply haven’t got the balls or principles not to
Dear god, I despise these ****s!!
binners, I don't agree with your assertion that
Come next week though, every Tory MP will line up in Parliament and vote for Boris to break international law
If there was ever a time for any MP of any party to demonstrate their integrity, it's now.
I'm still sufficiently naive to believe that MPs will vote with their conscience.
Let's see.
Having said that, my MP - caroline johnson, tory arse licker extraordinaire - will be voting for whatever johnson promulgates.
No relation to the bag of malignant cells masquerading as PM, apparently, despite the shared surname.
She is utterly useless - as is her namesake.
I know my ****er of an MP (Mark Jenkinson) will back Boris - the shite even revels in the Independents' description of him to the point of quoting it on his twitter feed 'bear of man'.
https://twitter.com/markjenkinsonmp?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
The good bit is the responses to his retweeting of the Telegraph front page - he's not getting as much love as he thought 🙂
Those replies are great. This country isn’t entirely lost.
These are not stupid people, they can be clever but wrong. Sure they're mishandling the crisis but there's some very very serious sums being extracted out of taxpayers' money and private firms being bought into the civil service. Could do with a modern day Anthony Sampson to design a web of this lot's contacts and deceit. It is much more serious than most realise.
Recurring rumours on the net about Boris's lifestyle and domestic arrangements but press silence.
Recurring rumours on the net about Boris’s lifestyle and domestic arrangements but press silence.
Four words.
Super injunction. Cynical bastard.
Why can't we read about whatever has been super injunctioned via non-British media outlets?
Because it is decided to be of no importance when Boris shags around when Carrie is pregnant?
https://quillette.com/2020/09/13/the-failure-of-fusionism/
The contradictions of conservatism camouflaged by cultural wars. It is fascinating how the right can whip up support from people who clearly have not done very well out of the system and getting them disparaging socialist ideas and socialists. Boozo's masterly stroke.
NB Is Suella Braverman's mouth and head a fusion from two different people?
It is fascinating how the right can whip up support from people who clearly have not done very well out of the system and getting them disparaging socialist ideas and socialists. Boozo’s masterly stroke.
Don't give them too much credit. They haven't created some masterly 'all things to all men' policy fusion.
They've worked out how to segment some data to determine which lies to tell to which segment knowing that any chance of cross reference by the targets themselves is minimal.
They haven't done anything of intrinsic merit. They've taken the most cynical possible viewpoint and extrapolated from there.

from the comments....
Those voters still - broadly - support him and his goals. Just goes to show that the qualities we often think of as intrinsic to the British character, of honour and the belief in fair play, are just self congratulatory bullshit. When push comes to shove we’re snivelling, weak willed, dishonourable shits who’ll abandon any principle if we decide the prize is worth the cost.
Jesus wept, I’m ashamed of us. I honestly don’t understand how Tory voters can look themselves in the eye.
Nazarin Zaghari-Radcliffe's life still being made an utter hell by Iran, at least partly thanks to good old Boris.
umm, it’s not just shooting though is it.
I can still get in a 5 man Skiff this weekend for example.
Milliband did a number on him today. Took him apart on bill and even said "For the first time in your life take some responsibility" ! Enjoyable watch
Millband's speech I found very interesting today. There were a number of pointed comments which went far beyond anything I've heard before.
He remarked this was all Cummings' idea and just being implemented by Boris. I hadn't heard anyone say anything so blunt previously.
There was also a barbed comment about knowing Boris had a lot on his plate so hadn't time to read his own bill. I wonder what he was alluding to? He didn't tie it to anything specific. I was expecting him to follow it up with a reference to Covid for example but he just left it hanging in the air.
The personal responsibility point was excellent.
We have probably witnessed one of the of the best Commons "assaults"ever seen. It was unrelenting, accurate, witty and there was no response.
Boris does not take well to this...
Ed slinging a bit of s**t keeps Kier clean, good cop bad cop.
Labour need to keep this up.
Is there a highlights show, like Match of the Day? Sounds like I missed a good one.
Enjoy....
https://twitter.com/sebdance/status/1305574401346240513?s=21
Ed should have done a mike drop once he’d utterly taken him apart
I've missed all if it as I've been in A&E since 4pm.
So far...blood test x 1, bp x 2, pulse x 2, temp x 2, cup of tea, ham sandwich.
From what I've read, Ed M has delivered quite a performance; I loved reading the jibes about cummings and johnson ...having a lot on his plate.
I would 100% keep dropping hints at Bojos private life. Not just the Russian but find ways to talk about his kids etc
From the telegraph.....
From seven-stone weakling to strutting muscleman... it’s the incredible return of Ed Miliband .
During the crucial debate on Brexit, Boris Johnson looked on in bewilderment as the former Labour leader came out fighting
good thread here about what comes after johnson
https://twitter.com/RussInCheshire/status/1305610355574558720
Wahaaay! I’ve actually received a reply from my MP. That’s a first. Well... one of his lackeys sent me link to a statement
He’s a lawyer, so it’s full of waffle, but to summarise: I’m voting for this because Dominic Cummings told me to
https://www.jamesdaly.org.uk/news/internal-market-bill-second-reading
Looks like he’s even reading the statement Dom wrote for him
Ed was absolutely sublime, he took de Pfeffel apart and made him look like the vacuous charlatan that he his.
Public appetite for the Tories' desired no deal Brexit has waned now we know that it entails lots of lorries waiting, lots more (not less) "red tape" and potentially food shortages from January. Gove is unelectable, Raab a nonentity, Patel seems to be playing up her sadistic tendencies as a means of distraction from her incompetence, Truss is a national joke. The only thing that seems to be keeping them going is the constant lurching from manufactured crisis to manufactured crisis.
Already emailed my MP, he's already in the doghouse as far as this small town is concerned - we're less than five miles away from a Brexit lorry park.
And once more, a Tory backbench rebellion fails to materialise
I’m shocked!
Probably the wrong thread… but today Johnson spoke about the prospect of the EU stopping all food and agriculture imports from the UK… even the “Project Fear” merchants didn’t go that far when describing how bad Brexit could be for our exports. Sunlit uplands…?
Never underestimate Tory cowardice....however, I think the amendment bill could be interesting.
This is more about exposing Tory infighting/incompetence over Europe AGAIN for all to see.👍
kelvin
Sunlit uplands…?
Sh*tpit downlands? 😆
Only just watched the excerpt of Milliband's speech. Absolutely wonderful stuff. It actually shows you what happens when bull sh*t gets absolutely spanked by simple intrinsic truths.
Anywhere I can watch the full debate/ arse kicking??
kimbers, your post about what comes next reminded me about this one from a few days ago; the entire article is interesting but Oborne's analysis of the johnson-gove-cummings triumverate is highly plausible.
BillMC
Free Member‘sober’
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-brexit-crisis-boris-johnson-Posted 3 days ago
Don't forget that gove owed his continued political career to cummings who helped him out of a couple of major problems - potential resigning/sacking issues - as education secretary.
This clearly shows that cummings has found his useful idiots in gove and johnson.
Anywhere I can watch the full debate/ arse kicking??
With the Russian he has a super in junction.
I’m still sufficiently naive to believe that MPs will vote with their conscience.
Let’s see.
How’s that naïveté workin’ out for ya?
Someone pointed out on twitter that in 2019 Tory MPs were threatened with the whip if they didn't vote for WA and now in 2020 they're being threatens with the whip if they don't vote against the WA. But obviously Boris and Cummings have a long term plan and aren't just bodging along.