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Truss did seem to say that goods mainland to NI that stay in those areas will have a green/red channel. Goods going outside UK or coming in will have to have checks. Which seems to say. "Hard" paperwork border for EU and soft green/red in Irish sea. Which seems to actually have put more borders up.
This was my quick reading of BBC coverage.
Which seems to say. “Hard” paperwork border for EU and soft green/red in Irish sea. Which seems to actually have put more borders up.
They had a customs expert on Channel 4 news last night who pointed out that Brainbox Liz's proposed 'solution' will just massively increase the amount of paperwork required by creating yet more different criteria for import/export which will need yet more people and infrastructure to check it
They're as thick as mince, the lot of them
Its all just posturing and bullshit, that wouldn't survive first contact with reality. But what do you expect from a gang of expensively educated morons who have never had a proper job between the lot of them, so have zero idea of how the real world actually functions
I’m also going to suggest that once again this highlights the issue of having folks in an administration who’ve come directly from Oxford and Cambridge debating societies who think that “winning” the debate is a better outcome than arriving at a solution to a problem
This.
Honestly I think they do a pretty good job.
Well, that made be laugh.
Truss' interviews have been particularly bad this morning. She got away with say that it was "a problem" that North/South trade was increasing. Why is she anti-trade?
Why is she anti-trade?
It's the wrong sort of trade.
Apparently trading is easier if you don't erect arbitrary barriers with your neighbours and instigate the need for many checks and restrictions that weren't there before?
Who knew?
She got away with say that it was “a problem” that North/South trade was increasing.
In fairness if you are the unionist party then it is a bit of a problem that your moronic brexit plan is driving NI even closer to Ireland vs the rest of the UK. I wonder if the DUP idiots are regretting the support for brexit and funnelling of cash (using the anti terrorism safeguards to hide the donors) to fund the brexit campaign in England.
Still any day soon we will have that magical technology for the NI/Irish border and it will be just like travelling between Camden and Westminster.
Johnson asked about a windfall tax at PMQs... what does he reply with? A joke about Starmer being careful when asked about trans-women. Go team distraction!
Seriously, is no-one ever going to ask whether Lindsay Hoyle is ever going to get the PM to actually answer a question...?
A joke about Starmer being careful when asked about trans-women.
Starmer missed a golden opportunity to point out that Tory MPs knowledge of women only seems to extend as far as abusing, assaulting and raping them.
Seriously, is no-one ever going to ask whether Lindsay Hoyle is ever going to get the PM to actually answer a question…?
I would totally overhaul the "rules" in Parliament.
PMQs is just a theatre show, more or less designed for morons
who’ve come directly from Oxford and Cambridge debating societies who think that “winning” the debate is a better outcome than arriving at a solution to a problem
or actually answering the question.
I'd also put a team of fact checkers in there so they can dissect the answer in real time and then say "actually..." and explain why the answer is a load of lies.
Not that a lot of MPs would care - sitting there ****ing over tractors on the backbenches.
Seriously, is no-one ever going to ask whether Lindsay Hoyle is ever going to get the PM to actually answer a question…?
I think its been obvious for some time that Johnsons human shield is never going to insist he answer a question
they are wedded to the Thatcherite idea that ‘The Market’ must decide everything
The only thing they are wedded to is headlines today and don't worry about tomorrow. At least Thatch had some principles even if they did end up screwing a lot of people she wasn't doing it for her own pleasure and advancement, this lot are.
Goods going outside UK or coming in will have to have checks.
Which is a border on the Irish border which is what the protocol was set up to avoid. The protocol is a border in the Irish sea, anything else will get retaliation from the US and EU.
How to win friends and influence people, eh?
So, not content to start a trade war with the EU, they're now having a pop at the US too, to see if they can get some economic sanctions coming from that direction as well.
I'm convinced that this lot think they're somehow living at the height of the British Empire and they're all working for the East India company. They're certainly behaving as if that's the case
Starmer missed a golden opportunity to point out that Tory MPs knowledge of women only seems to extend as far as abusing, assaulting and raping them.
No, they abuse, assault and rape men as well. They’re all about the equality.
Johnson asked about a windfall tax at PMQs… what does he reply with? A joke about Starmer being careful when asked about trans-women. Go team distraction!
faced with the realities of a cost of living crisis I do wonder/hope that the electorate might stop falling for this culture BS from the Tories
Yep it’s quite bizarre to see them now attacking their own deal.
This Government does this all the time, They attack their own policies/deals. What better way to destroy something you despise than to initially promote it? Very Trumpian.
The only thing they are wedded to is headlines today and don’t worry about tomorrow.
yep, those in Downing street believe very strongly in the "daily reset", and they have to, considering the cluster**** of a leader and cabinet they have.
I do wonder/hope that the electorate might stop falling for this culture BS from the Tories
The culture war is all they have, People are more concerned about the cost of living crisis than "woke" stuff these days, but as mentioned before, we will see the true power of thatchers children staying true to free market economics.
No amount of posturing, tub-thumping and tantrum-throwing will work. With the EU or the US. This is because we need them more than they need us. The exact opposite of the lie peddled in the run up to the referendum.
Johnson et al were a bunch of misfits who would never be considered suitable for high office unless they bypassed the traditional MO and found a cause to do it with. Enter Call Me Dave, the supposed PR expert who was actually a painfully insecure little man. A stupid question was posed in a stupid way and enough people were stupid enough to vote for it.
All the ensuing shit - partygate, the shredding of our reputation on the world stage, unnecessarily high inflation, MPs who think it is OK to watch grumble in the debating chamber and touch up female colleagues, the fake 'war on woke'...
All of it is the result of that fateful day back in 2016. Whether caused by it directly or as a result of those that lied their way into power trying to stay there.
Sure the US had its Trump moment, but at least they weren't stupid enough to have their little nationalist pant-shitting tantrum in a way that is largely irreversible.
We are ****ed. It is going to be a combination of the 70s and early 90s combined. No wonder Priti Nasty has effectively outlawed protest. A shrewd move in one way, but what it really means is that the conflagration, when it happens, will be worse as the stakes will be that much higher from the off.
The UK, run by idiots for idiots*.
*And a few very canny disrupters.
I don't think it's just due to the Brexit vote....as you say that was the entry point. They would have found another way.
And America have messed up just bad. Look at the supreme court and the way rights are poised to be taken away.
I think all of this is due to the concentration if wealth. Not sure how it ends....
Well this is certain to help people with their energy and food bills. 🙄
Sunak has realised he can do anything he wants and just say it's tackling the cost of living crisis, even though it never is. "We're going to lay off a bunch of people" "We're going to give tax breaks to companies". "we're going to hunt the poor"
I think all of this is due to the concentration if wealth. Not sure how it ends….
It ends with Priti Patel looking like this:
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I think all of this is due to the concentration if wealth. Not sure how it ends….
Guillotines and grisly lamp post adornments.
Guillotines and grisly lamp post adornments.
Some people have some disturbing fantasies
Of course he understands what he signed. It was simply a piece of paper that kicked the can down the road. it didn’t matter what was on it, simply that it wasn’t in front of him any longer and he could claim it was done.
Yep,he got elected on the promise of ripping the U.K. out of the E.U. As people were bored of hearing about Brexit and that was exactly what he did at any cost, without actually really worrying about the implications and implementation of the mechanisms required to do it in a timely manner.
I don’t think they really care much about the withdrawal agreement other than they needed it to sell a clean leave and fulfil that U.K. legal requirement to leave with a deal and N.I is just a pita as they have no clue what to do and were hoping that the E.U. Would quietly forget about it and let them have an easy ride.
Third country status sorta screws everything,you can’t even bring a choccy bar from the u.k to eu without an export health certificate.
Some people have some disturbing fantasies
I lie awake at night imagining how I would torture Jacob Rees Mogg if ever the opportunity presented itself. Is that wrong?
I didn’t realise Peston had his own TV show of which I caught a glimpse last night included Jamie Oliver using it as a platform to denounce Boris. It seemed like a very weird fantasy program of some kind.
I lie awake at night imagining how I would torture Jacob Rees Mogg if ever the opportunity presented itself. Is that wrong?
Not if looked at objectively. Personally I don't like to give in to that sort of fantasy, but now I can imagine you doing it for me...
Well, kinda. I mean, he's a self-centred, self-serving, smug, useless waste of DNA, but that does not mean he needs to be tortured.
I'd rather go with removing all his wealth and privilege and forcing him to live like one of the little people he sees as beneath him. I would also then use his property as refugee housing and release the grounds into a public trust for public use.
I lie awake at night imagining how I would torture Jacob Rees Mogg if ever the opportunity presented itself. Is that wrong?
Yes. Understandable, but wrong.
But if your entering the Unicorn world then
If you’re travelling from the EU (in this case it also includes European destinations such as Andorra, Channel Islands, Isle of Man, Liechtenstein, San Marino, Norway and Switzerland) then you’re able to bring in any fruit, vegetable, meat, dairy or other animal product to the UK with no weight limits.
I lie awake at night imagining how I would torture Jacob Rees Mogg if ever the opportunity presented itself. Is that wrong?
Yep, pretty much.
I’d rather shun him and his elk from society and not allow them to get elected into positions of power and close the loopholes on tax avoidance, disallow shady cayman shell companies owning property or doing businesses in the U.K.
If your going down your route its just a step to just putting the whole cabinet against the wall.
Any way I’m sure pretty evils got a law against your dreams,report to the reeducation centre immediately 🙂
I always remember the Ceaușescuha’s end, bet they weren’t expecting that.
but now I can imagine you doing it for me…
There are some fun medieval methods Which would fit with JRMs feudal outlook on life…
https://www.medievalchronicles.com/medieval-torture-devices/judas-cradle-torture-device/
If your going down your route its just a step to just putting the whole cabinet against the wall.
And the problem with that is?
I’m joking of course, but honestly, if in some weird turn of events anything like this came to pass, I wouldn’t be too bothered.
I mean, he’s a self-centred, self-serving, smug, useless waste of DNA, but that does not mean he needs to be tortured.
Correct - there are plenty of things he's done that justify torture, over and above his lack of personality.
If your going down your route its just a step to just putting the whole cabinet against the wall.
Need someone to pull a trigger?
I’d rather shun him and his elk from society
Still giggling. Better not draw attention to it or the puns will rein down.
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I’d rather shun him and his elk from society
What did his elk do to raise your ire?
I’m joking of course, but honestly, if in some weird turn of events anything like this came to pass, I wouldn’t be too bothered.
However much the thought may appeal, any discussion on acting it out rather plays into the culture wars trap, I fear.
But I'm quite partial to venison, so I'm all in favour of the elks getting shot - and hung afterwards!
how I would torture Jacob Rees Mogg
he behaves like he does because he knows it winds you up. It helps to remember that he's essentially entirely made up. His maternal grandad drove a lorry for a living. How entirely messed in the head do you have to be to "be" Rees-Mogg? There's ultimately nothing your torture chamber can do that he isn't doing a million times worse to himself inside his own head.
How entirely messed in the head do you have to be to “be” Rees-Mogg?
Matron has got a lot to answer for.
In a few years time he will not be worth your disdain. He has no real role and soon will be powerless.
This too shall pass.
Some people have some disturbing fantasies
Those who court populist policies come to a sticky end when they can no longer deliver the unicorns (other unlikely fantastical targets are also avaiable) as history has shown. Despite our pretensions we are all still an aggressive ape when push comes to shove.
Many things that try us pass, but few of them have so much potential to destroy so much and change it for the worse for so many years.
Instead of working towards something good to bring people together, locally and globally, these entitled, useless retards are driving wedges into society and alienating our closest neighbours. They will normalise this behaviour and make attempts to revert it difficult at best.
Sadly, despite wanting to say that this MUST NOT pass, I think it will and the change will stay, leaving the UK a poorer, even more broken place.
It's also worth remembering that he's younger than Kylie Minogue and Thom Yorke, and the same age as Jay-Z.
That is a man torturing himself for the crime of being the wrong generation.
126 fixed penalty notices in total for Johnson's team... we don't know who received them yet though. Let's see that (non-redacted) Sue Gray report next... yeah, right.