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Geidt Gone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61819747

I wonder if it was reading John Crace's excoriating article that did it

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/14/lord-geidt-ultimate-establishment-stooge-struggles-maintain-illusion-of-authority


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 7:58 pm
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That's no surprise.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 8:07 pm
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That’s no surprise.

It is somewhat. Nothing has really changed since the last person resigned and he took over despite knowing he was a living can of whitewash.
so why now?


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 8:08 pm
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Love to see the job advert for a replacement


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 8:33 pm
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It's no surprise because the stink from the tsunami of shit washing over and around johnson has been building to the point where any right-minded person would say...enough.
That is what Geidt has done.
It's far worse now than when Alex Allen resigned.


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 8:52 pm
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Love to see the job advert for a replacement

Wanted Old Etonian …...


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 10:02 pm
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His resignation letter was one sentence. It might as well have been two words…

**** this!


 
Posted : 15/06/2022 11:37 pm
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Where is his resignation letter? Normally it would be published, yes? No one believes it was a sentence long, do they?

Anyway, a reminder about the ECHR, as we’re supposed to be getting angry about it this week (well, “we’re” not, but the idea is that millions of others are, isn’t it?)…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfmAY6M6aA


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 12:58 am
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Protect people from abuses of state power

Can’t wait to see what the UKHR version looks like.


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 7:20 am
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One more rat trying to launch a lifeboat!


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 8:42 am
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Can’t wait to see what the UKHR version looks like.

Binners was on the right lines

It might as well have been two words…

**** them!


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 8:44 am
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Anyway, a reminder about the ECHR, as we’re supposed to be getting angry about it this week (well, “we’re” not, but the idea is that millions of others are, isn’t it?)…

This is even funnier now, and it was pretty funny then!!


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 8:45 am
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The UK is a ****ing joke and a source of much amusement here on the continent.


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 8:54 am
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No, they’re not idiots, but the claims they make are beyond idiotic. They knew this was coming. To admit it was predicated would lead people into discussing how it could have been avoided, or at least better mitigated… and then everything points to Boris Johnson and his team. Paint it as something that has come as a surprise, and people might not notice that the mess Johnson claims that he and his team are best placed to sort out was actually of their own making.

Standard 'corporate' FU management.

Notice how when company/agency/Govt are hacked that it was a "sophisticated" hack by "professionals" etc.


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 8:54 am
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Here’s an absolute demolition of the farcical nature of the oxymoronic role of ethics advisor to Boris Johnson by John Crace

Given that it took him 5 months to find someone daft enough to take the role last time around, I doubt they’ll have any applications this time

https://twitter.com/nikephorius/status/1536804743439343622?s=21&t=EWdMNLfVAn6feQPO_4atYA


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 10:46 am
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Theres a lot of speculation about what his resignation letter says

but I really think he couldnt face being associated with Johnson any longer (Crace's sketch skewered him)


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 11:51 am
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Given that it took him 5 months to find someone daft enough to take the role last time around, I doubt they’ll have any applications this time

I think there would be plenty of people willing to apply but they would all fail the key test of actually holding him to account. I would definitely do it so long as it was a guaranteed years salary. About 5 days work before leaving and then a year having fun.

The letter hasnt been released yet but they have agreed to do so.


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 11:51 am
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but I really think he couldnt face being associated with Johnson any longer (Crace’s sketch skewered him)

Yes that committee meeting must have left him wondering what the hell he was doing. He batted the questions aside but inside must have been quietly dying.


 
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Has this replaced the bi election results as the second strike?


 
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I’m pretty sure that the proposed deliberate breach of the ministerial code relates to state aid for CF industries and erection of tariffs to protect their revenue.

CF industries operates the only two manufacturing sites in the Uk that produce Carbon Dioxide - as a by-product of fertiliser production.

One site is already due to close - the other is running at a crippling loss due to the surge in the price of oil.

Without domestically produced Carbon Dioxide the reliability of uk originated foodstuffs would be severely impacted - more so if (Road) tanker based imports from Europe became subject to industrial action.

At a stroke, production and movement of all chilled / frozen foodstuffs would cease causing a food crisis.

So Johnson’s choice is:

1. Follow the ministerial code, do not agree (illegal) state aid and tariffs to enable CF to continue UK production of fertiliser - and then carry the political can when everyone is rioting about food shortages

Or:

2. Deliberately break the code by providing trade finance guarantees to CF industries / impose tariffs on fertiliser imports and run the risk of retaliatory action by other governments.


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 1:27 pm
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So youre saying 12 years of Tory incompetence and mismanagement of the economy has left Johnson no way to keep feeding the nation that doesnt start a notoriously long & expensive WTO trade dispute & break the ministerial code yet again?


 
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“So youre saying 12 years of Tory incompetence and mismanagement of the economy has left Johnson no way to keep feeding the nation”

Perhaps I’ve missed it but could you point me to Labour’s specific policy related to this?

Given it’s a supply side issue (ammonia) created by Covid and then amplified in the last 12 weeks / the war in Ukraine it’s hard to see how any government could have seen this issue coming - not least as it takes 5-10 years to site, plan, procure, build and commission new manufacturing facilities.

The FT also reported last year that supplies of Carbon Dioxide were reduced by 50% across many EU countries - and they are still facing the same problem as us now.

https://www.ft.com/content/475ca564-66b1-49b7-b6ce-f6f682deeac8


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 1:41 pm
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Suggestion is that it’s to do with Chinese steel tariffs


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 1:43 pm
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Yup steel subsidies going to Tory donors, so standard Johnsonian corruption

Geidt also quite clear that it wasnt just that:

"Your letter in response to my annual report was welcome. It addressed the absence of comment by you about your obligations under that ministerial code up until that point. You explained that, by paying a fixed term penalty, you had not breached the ministerial code. The letter did not, however, address specifically the criticism in Sue Gray’s report about your adherence to the Nolan principles (on leadership, in particular). Neither did the letter make mention that, despite being repeatedly questioned in the House of Commons about your obligations under the ministerial code (after paying a fixed penalty notice), your responses again made no reference to it.

I reported to the select committee yesterday that I was satisfied that you had responded to my annual report to explain your position. I am disappointed, however, that the account you gave was not fuller, as noted above. Moreover, I regret the reference to ‘miscommunication’ between our offices, with the implication that I was somehow responsible for you not being fully aware of my concerns. These inconsistencies and deficiencies notwithstanding, I believed that it was possible to continue credibly as independent adviser, albeit by a very small margin."

erm

Perhaps I’ve missed it but could you point me to Labour’s specific policy related to this?

over a decade of Tory misrule & youre still trying to blame labour! 🙂


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 1:49 pm
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Part of me is sad at just how cheaply our politicians can be bought.


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 2:26 pm
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Part of me is sad at just how cheaply our politicians can be bought.

Some of our politicians. Overall I would agree though. They hand stuff away for a fraction of its worth in bribes.
Whereas if you look at Al-Yamamah for example the Saudis demanded decent bribes.


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 2:45 pm
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Perhaps I’ve missed it but could you point me to Labour’s specific policy related to this?

Bet you also blamed the Remoaners for anything Brexshit related.

Have I missed the 'steel tariff' issue - bankhanders/donors/something?


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 2:52 pm
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Part of me is sad at just how cheaply our politicians can be bought

They don’t come much lower rent than this shower.

Can you imagine where any of this lot would be in anything resembling a meritocracy? So they need to scrape together as much as they can for what little ability they possess


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 2:58 pm
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@cheddarchallenged

You missed:

3. Nationalise an essential asset paying the bare minimum compensation as it's about to go bust. (Like happened to the East Coast Mainline which then ran faultlessly).


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 3:10 pm
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Part of me is sad at just how cheaply our politicians can be bought.

Yeah, this! If I was going to bribe a senior politician it'd never occur to me to try with £10000. Like, you could barely bribe me for £10000.


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 3:25 pm
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Maybe it's just being inherently venal and also a prevailing sense of the Last Chance Saloon. That with a compliant opposition, media and judiciary, whyever not?


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 3:39 pm
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What you think the Starmer thread has been “derailed” because it is focused on politics and not who’s shagging who?

Well this is pretty much the core problem in this country. Even among the politically engaged politics has been reduced to a combination of sport and soap opera. Oppositon in the case is reduced to whingeing like infants about how terrible those evil tories are, without ever questioning or wondering just what those who might replace them should do. We get what we deserve.


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 5:53 pm
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Yeah, this! If I was going to bribe a senior politician it’d never occur to me to try with £10000. Like, you could barely bribe me for £10000

With the kind of people we’re talking about here - Tory donors - I reckon they’ll have paid multiples of that to bent Italian traffic cops to make speeding fines go away, and that’s before you get on to the price of disposing of dead rent boys. You can add a few noughts for that

They’re effectively chucking their loose change at Boris, like he’s a homeless bloke sat by a cash machine. But then given what he usually looks like, I can understand the confusion


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 6:31 pm
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So Boris Mussolini is now reviewing Lord Geights job description before he employs the next candidate.

Of course he is #corrupt


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 6:51 pm
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They’ve already advertised it


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 7:21 pm
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Just your friendly reminder that CO2 is the primary coolant for the 14 AGR reactors across the UK and every single one of them needs it to keep running (and in fact stay in a safe state). Even the ones that are shut down.

So if there was a ever a need to ensure a supply could be provided, this is it.


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 8:52 pm
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@dazh One doesn't give your enemy a get out of jail free card by publishing ones solutions to the current mess. Let them own it and give their press promoters nothing to work with long term.


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 8:56 pm
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They’re effectively chucking their loose change at Boris, like he’s a homeless bloke sat by a cash machine. But then given what he usually looks like, I can understand the confusion

One of many reasons why the Russians chose Londongrad to wash all their dirty money. To them, it's cheap. The son of a former KGB agent can buy a peerage for a few hundred thousand. Why waste money on football clubs and London mansions when you can buy the British Government for a tenth of the price?!


 
Posted : 16/06/2022 9:56 pm
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One doesn’t give your enemy a get out of jail free card by publishing ones solutions to the current mess.

You seriously think labour have solutions? Labour's wafer-thin proposals to help people with energy bills were easily outdone by the tories, and that's just one example.


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 9:52 am
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Oh Christ! Another escapee from the Keir Starmer thread!

Guys, can you remember to shut the door on your way out, if you for some inexplicable reason go in there.

Anyway, the news this morning is saying that Boris, if he replaces his ethics adviser at all (and seriously… what would be the point?), will re-write the job description himself first, before appointing whichever nodding dog he can find who’s stupid or desperate enough to want it.

After the last 2 years of his antics, is there anyone who still believes they’re actually living in a functioning democracy?

Seems to me that our ‘constitution’ such as it is, more closely resembles some kind of medieval court, where King Boris gets to make the rules up as he goes along, and there’s absolutely nothing that anyone can do about it

I did see one good suggestion on Twitter for his ethics advisor, and he has the time at the moment too…


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 12:52 pm
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where King Boris gets to make the rules up as he goes along, and there’s absolutely nothing that anyone can do about it

There's loads that can be done about it. The right wing of the labour party can't be arsed though because they would lose their grip on the party. They're more than happy with Boris as PM, otherwise they wouldn't have gone out of their way to put him in power.


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 1:13 pm
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*sigh*


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 1:19 pm
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*sigh*

That's the problem right there. Anyone who wants anything different to the current shitshow of a world where a tiny few rich people get ever mor rich and powerful on the backs of working people is portrayed as a nutter. This unswerving devotion to something that's not in your interests is no different to a cult. Like I said, we get what we deserve, and some deserve it more than others.


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 1:39 pm
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Anyone who wants anything different to the current shitshow of a world where a tiny few rich people get ever mor rich and powerful on the backs of working people is portrayed as a nutter.

Yes, that's right, everyone apart from you is happy for the rich to get richer, and the working people to struggle more and more. That's exactly what those complaining about Johnson in this thread want, isn't it.


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 1:43 pm
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Many of us want something different from the current world shitshow - we just don't think the problem was caused by what is a schism within the membership of (on an international scale) a minor political party on a small island. Cult you say?

(Now this thread is ruined too)


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 1:47 pm
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everyone apart from you is happy for the rich to get richer, and the working people to struggle more and more

No just centrist/rightwingers who pretend they're not happy about it but are perfectly content to keep everything the same. To quote Enstein, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result'. That's exactly what we're currently doing.


 
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On the internet, all quotes are attributable to me.

-- Albert Einstein, probably.


 
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Oh Christ! Another escapee from the Keir Starmer thread!

Guys, can you remember to shut the door on your way out, if you for some inexplicable reason go in there.

Can't you just focus on ranting about the Tories and leave out the hyperbole concerning other forum users who have a different opinion to yours?


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 2:11 pm
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One doesn’t give your enemy a get out of jail free card by publishing ones solutions to the current mess

Sorry but this is absolute rubbish.
It works if your "enemy" is another country but not when they are the ones currently running the country you share.
Not a lot of point waiting another 2 years for the situation to be irretrievable even if it comes at the cost of the arsehole getting the credit.


 
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Many of us want something different from the current world shitshow – we just don’t think the problem was caused by what is a schism within the membership of (on an international scale) a minor political party on a small island. Cult you say?

Superb comment, absolutely spot on.👌


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 2:14 pm
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Can’t you just focus on ranting about the Tories and leave out the hyperbole concerning other forum users who have a different opinion to yours?

You have to feel sorry for him. He spent years spewing bile and hate wrecking threads with his hilarious memes and comments about Corby being down the allotment and then the great saviour is, ermmm, where?
Perhaps if people started posting photos and talking about Starmer being down the donkey sanctuary or something he may feel its a safe space again and stop lashing out.


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 2:16 pm
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Oh goody. The whole gang’s here

Always a joy


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 2:21 pm
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Superb comment, absolutely spot on.

The problem isn't a schism or disagreement within the labour party, it's the exact opposite: The almost total agreement within the UK and wider western society (which includes the labour party) that neoliberalism is a good thing despite 40 years of evidence to the contrary.


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 2:22 pm
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On the internet, all quotes are attributable to me.

I believe that was one Abraham Lincoln!


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 2:33 pm
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Are you sure it wasn’t Hitler?


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 3:05 pm
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It was Gandhi.


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 3:06 pm
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This seems like an own goal

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1537774927700545537?t=7bDzaIszqR6ryrO2tEsVWw&s=19


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 3:27 pm
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He won’t resign, my hopes went up and back down again in the 5 seconds after I read that.


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 3:35 pm
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Maybe he forgot his hi-viz jacket?


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 3:36 pm
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What could possibly be a 'sufficiently significant' reason to avoid going to Doncaster?


 
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Court hearing to set another super injunction?


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 4:01 pm
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He realised it was for the Northern Research Group which given the previous "Research Groups" would be reason to call in an airstrike rather than attend.


 
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Boris does 'Wartime Leader' rather than go near dirty northern bastards. 🤣

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61842137


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 4:54 pm
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Trying to be the great warleader.
I guess we are lucky he hasnt gone for the "if unpopular start a war" approach (so far) and is just trying to nick someone elses.


 
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Boris does ‘Wartime Leader’ rather than go near dirty northern bastards.

Hard to know the more deprived region to be honest. Doncaster or Kyiv.
Guess the difference is that if you shelled Doncaster, you'd probably cause several hundred pounds worth of improvements.


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 4:58 pm
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Zolensky is going to be having a quiet word…

“Listen… can someone tell him to go? I mean, thanks for the missiles and everything, but he’s been here every week for days at a time now…”

Flying to Kyiv for no apparent reason the week before a by-election does seem pretty desperate. That’s how far he has to go nowadays to find someone who doesn’t think he’s a ****


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 4:59 pm
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Back on the topic of the missing Ethics Advisor...

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/wanted-ethics-adviser-no-knowledge-of-ethics-necessary-20220616222256


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 5:01 pm
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That won't be the first time he's pulled out at the last minute though and he has n kids to prove it!


 
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Shame he didn’t run away to Afghanistan like last time.


 
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does anyone think he’s gone to talk VZ out of joining the EU ?


 
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does anyone think he’s gone to talk VZ out of joining the EU ?

😹

Or he’s gone there to try and corner and meet the leaders of Germany, France and Italy… who don’t seem to in be a rush to see him.


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 5:40 pm
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The irony of him trying to tie himself to Zolensky is that when he was offered a flight out by the Americans and replied ‘I don’t need a lift, I need ammunition’, we all know that the flytipped sofa would have been out of the country like a rat up a drainpipe at the first sign of trouble and would have set himself up in exile in a suitable luxury hotel


 
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But then there’s the moral in question of using the Ukraine war and all the suffering it entails as a dead cat. Although we know Johnson has no morals, that’s a very low thing to do.


 
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Have they got a fridge for him to hide in in the event of an missile warning?


 
Posted : 17/06/2022 6:20 pm
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Have they got a fridge for him to hide in in the event of an missile warning?

Then toss him over the Russian border with a trebuchet, he can report back to his paymasters


 
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