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The only sliver of hope is that the press seem to be all turning against him now.

Not all the press...

https://twitter.com/snb19692/status/1481034439492882433?t=BQWBiDeGAJHIrFwZSJeiIg&s=19


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 9:32 am
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Daily Express have an interesting headline..... 🤔


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 9:33 am
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A semi- apology? Or just a desperate attempt at deflection, a load of waffle, wait for investigation

It’ll be the now standard non-apology dressed up as an apology

“I’m sorry if the impression was given that blah, blah, blah…”

It will be delivered in a surly, begrudging manner (as he’ll have been told he has to do it) and certainly won’t involve any actual contrition. As an enormously entitled sociopath, he is aware that contrition exists, as a concept, but it’s certainly not something he’s ever experienced personally


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 9:43 am
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The last poll was conducted on Monday so I expect the margin to widened in the coming days for at least a while, depending how much more can be drip fed to the media.

And 40% of polled conservatives thought he should resign. That’s starting to look like a liability. A lot of conservatives were unable to attend funerals in 2020.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 9:43 am
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I think the sad fact is that people realise BoJo is an apalling leader, but the majority that do will continue to vote conservative. Always have, always will 🙁


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 9:49 am
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It’ll be the now standard non-apology dressed up as an apology

“I’m sorry if the impression was given that blah, blah, blah…”

An mp, when asked if pm should resign when found guilty on R4 was going on about needing to judge the p.m in “the round” rather than just on these multiple breaches so expect lots of bluster about one mistake whilst getting covid done.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 9:50 am
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I doubt that this whole palaver was intended as a dead cat, but while there's a dead cat (or two) on the table it's a great time to be getting on with other things that you didn't want spotted.

So - what's being quietly progressed while we're all distracted with parties etc ?


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 9:52 am
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Yep the one thing about Johnson is he’s not slow in reading the people, he doesn’t care about them but he knows how to play them.

I think this.

The statement before PMQ I bet will be waffle, wait for the investigation, I cannot answer questions in PMQ on it, waffle.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 9:57 am
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Yep the one thing about Johnson is he’s not slow in reading the people, he doesn’t care about them but he knows how to play them.

No he doesn't, If he knew how to manipulate people, the parties wouldn't have happened, or there certainly wouldn't be a trail (so easily followed) that led back to him. ALL Johnson wants is for people to like him, that way they feel conflicted when he lets them down, and that's their problem, not his. Being liked, for Johnson, is a suit of armour, it's lets him do the things he wants. That's the somethingion of his character for me.

All the frantic apologies and  waffle is just him trying to disarm you back into liking him again.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 10:11 am
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going on about needing to judge the p.m in “the round”

A brave stance. So we should be taking the corruption into account as well?


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 10:13 am
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ALL Johnson wants is for people to like him, that way they feel conflicted when he lets them down. Being liked, for Johnson, is like a suit of armour, it’s lets him do the things he wants.

They are two opposite things though. Being liked does (to a certain extent) allow you to do what you want but then when you end up doing stuff that everyone finds objectionable, you end up not being liked.

It's why there's such a massive power grab going on behind the scenes - outlawing protests (so that even when people don't like you, they can't protest about you!) as well as gerrymandering and FPTP to make it more likely that Conservative candidates will win.

Bottom line is that he's in power with a large majority, he can (more or less) still get away with doing whatever he wants as he simply doesn't believe in being held accountable for anything.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 10:21 am
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So no senior conservatives or most con MPs bothered to turn up for parliament today. Go democracy.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 10:24 am
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The only issue which concerns the Tory Backbenches is whether Johnson is an asset to them or not.

The last 3 national opinion polls only gives Labour a 4 percent lead over the Tories which isn’t too shabby at all for the government at this stage of the electoral cycle.

Surely asset-ness is relative not absolute. They may be doing OK, but if they would be doing better with another leader, for both the local and general elections, then surely they should change? Why wait for the local elections to prove he is a liability? Is local government control not a little bit important?


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 10:37 am
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Saving up the new leader bounce for when it really matters?


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 10:45 am
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Tory MPs are in a bind, there are no strong alternatives to Johnson, but if they leave it too long they'll have trouble detoxifying the party (see corbyn & Labour)


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 10:47 am
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I refer the honourable gentleman to the statement I just made.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 10:48 am
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Is local government control not a little bit important?

Not really. You could turn the loss into a benefit by screwing over the local authorities and then saying look how bad they are doing.
Traditionally it was useful for training up prospective MPs but now that seems mostly done as central party officials instead.
In addition I am not sure anyone would want to take over so close to the elections. Its quite possible they would go bad anyway and then the new leader takes the blame. Add in the cost of living skyrocketing and its better to keep him in place to take the blame for all of it.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 10:54 am
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I don't want him to quit.

The longer he stays in PM seat, the more damage he does to the Tory vote and the less chance there is of them winning the next election.

Hang on in there Boris.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 10:56 am
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The problem the tories have is they have become addicted to winning elections & referendums. Bozza has emerged as their match winner, their star striker and they don't have another match winner waiting in the wings. This means they will do everything they can to keep hold of him and hope this all blows over. The tories simply don't care about anything as much as they care about winning. Sleaze, parties, bullying, lying, manifesto promises broken, chumocracy & greed will all be excused as long as they keep winning elections.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 10:58 am
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Anyone else think he'll announce a cut to VAT on fuel just b4 PMQs?


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 11:14 am
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I have said it before,but I don't think Labour/Starmer really want the gig just now.
They may be happy just to let the Tories take everything to ground zero,then have the public beg them to fix a trashed Britain.
The line for the next decade or two would be "Please bear with us,we are trying our very best,but the previous caretakers have left things in such a state."


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 11:17 am
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I have said it before,but I don’t think Labour/Starmer really want the gig just now.
They may be happy just to let the Tories take everything to ground zero,then have the public beg them to fix a trashed Britain.

That's fine, they don't even have a chance to get the gig for another 2.5 years, (or is it even more than that?) When BoZo goes, we just get a different flavour of scum, (thanks Angela, and I'm not going to retract that after a couple of days) not a general election.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 11:25 am
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“Please bear with us,we are trying our very best,but the previous caretakers have left things in such a state.”
The Torries are still using that one.

Expect more dead cats than an animal cemetery.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 11:28 am
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The longer he stays in PM seat, the more damage he does to the Tory vote and the less chance there is of them winning the next election.

Not as much damage as Liz Truss will cause. She's the final nail in the coffin of an arrogant, entitled, and clueless party. Bring it on.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 11:33 am
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He should resign if he did what's been suggested. Keeping him on for election purposes suggests power is more important than morality.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 11:37 am
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They watch Newsround in school, and apparently whenever Boris Johnson is on he gets booed. By 10 year olds

Outstanding, but this is South Wales where they consider the only good Tory is a dead one.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 11:39 am
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The problem the Labour Party faces is the same problem that faces all centrist and leftist partys across the western world...

Too many old people. Demographic shifts due to ageing populations due to inreasing lifespans and falling birth rates mean that the majority of the active electorate vote for the past.

Back in the day (any day), the median age of the electorate was much younger, so the majority of voters voted based on what the future had to offer. Being of working age and usually with children, matters around the economy, employment and education mattered to them greatly, to an older population? not so much. Perhaps the health service being the only common ground.

It means the Tories haven't had to work as hard for the past few years, they don't have to have a vision or a plan for the future when there's an ever increasing number of voters who don't care too much about the future as they haven't got much of a future left. They vote to preserve, (who can blame them)

We end up with a situation where those no longer working, and with all the assets, tell the working population what to do so that they can preserve the assets of those no longer working.

I don't know what the answer is?


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 11:41 am
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The trouble is that the Met is led by someone who’s also as brazen as Boris and similarly doesn’t see herself as accountable to anyone

The Good Law Project are sorting that one. Time to bung them some more funds.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 11:44 am
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Revolution.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 11:46 am
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Yeah it feels like another ‘tenner to the Good Law Project’ kind of day what with The Met, Baroness Undies and her highly profitable PPE business etc.

The closing paragraph of this article on the politicisation of The Met is enlightening…

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/12/police-should-not-ignore-any-law-breaking-at-no-10-says-senior-ex-officer


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 11:53 am
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So – what’s being quietly progressed while we’re all distracted with parties etc ?

Police and Crime Bill, Borders and Immigration Bill.....


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 11:58 am
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I don’t know what the answer is?

I do. Don't let anyone vote who is over 50 as the vote tends to be more based on greed and bitterness than anything else and never about changes to make a better/fairer society.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:03 pm
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Moan to your mp and donate to these people
https://goodlawproject.fundraise.tech/


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:17 pm
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I do. Don’t let anyone vote who is over 50 as the vote tends to be more based on greed and bitterness than anything else and never about changes to make a better/fairer society.

If only the Brexit vote had been run that way!

On which subject, the lockdown parties are simply Brexit in a very local nutshell. In it for themselves, not giving a shit about the wider issues, lying, manipulating, doing what they want with no thought for the damage...


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:33 pm
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https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1481205520270868481

Excited to be as far away from the shit-show as I can! - says man hoping to be next PM...


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:37 pm
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Donated


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:37 pm
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'Don’t let anyone vote who is over 50' ...kinell there's plenty of rightwing whippersnappers and smearers under 50, even on here.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:38 pm
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The line for the next decade or two would be “Please bear with us,we are trying our very best,but the previous caretakers have left things in such a state.”

To be fair, that's been a common refrain from governments of all colours for at least the past 25 years, and probably much longer than that.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:50 pm
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Pity it's Starmer and not Rayner at PMQs today.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:53 pm
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Keeping him on for election purposes suggests power is more important than morality.

I think you'll find that's precisely what the current Tory lot do think.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:54 pm
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The line for the next decade or two would be “Please bear with us,we are trying our very best,but the previous caretakers have left things in such a state.”

That is why BloJo's flat needed renovating, apparently.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:54 pm
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We end up with a situation where those no longer working, and with all the assets, tell the working population what to do so that they can preserve the assets of those no longer working.

I don’t know what the answer is?

It'll be interesting to see who's missing from the front bench today, having remembered they had an urgent appointment somewhere else. And how empty the seats behing him are. Rishi and Liz being the obvious ones to maybe have a dentists appointment today

Apparently Jeremy Hunt is presently drumming up support for another crack at the leadership. Its coming to something when he now appears to be the least worst option, by some distance


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:56 pm
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The good news for him keeps coming.
ppe court case loss
Although will depend on exactly what the court has to say about it.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:56 pm
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I do. Don’t let anyone vote who is over 50

Jesus.


 
Posted : 12/01/2022 12:59 pm
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So there we go - the non-apology dressed up to sound like an apology, but isn’t


 
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