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Starting a trade war with the EU and torpedoing any chance of a deal with the US to distract from you getting pissed with your mates during lockdown.
Rule Britannia!
They’ve given him a fine. They’ve given his team over a hundred fines. He should resign. They could give him a few more, and his team hundreds more… and it would make no difference. The can’t fire him, only his MPs can.
Maybe, maybe not. But they should issue fines the same way they did to Joe Public - thousands of quid for sitting on a park bench etc., not accepting ridiculous excuses ("strategy meeting", "ambushed by cake" etc) and dishing out derisory fines.
Maybe, maybe not. But they should issue fines the same way they did to Joe Public – thousands of quid for sitting on a park bench etc., not accepting ridiculous excuses (“strategy meeting”, “ambushed by cake” etc) and dishing out derisory fines.
The problem is that the cops know, if they do that, they're going to be tying up resources dealing with smart-arse lawyers acting on Johnson's behalf. And probably paid for by 'us'.
The issue here (and one that will be studiously ignored by the Brexity morons) is that we have a Prime Minister who is happy to lie to parliament, lie to Saint Liz Windsor, lie to police and tie up their resources doing so. He is an utter self-serving shit.
But the populace were warned. And they chose to elect a man who went back on his word re the leader interviews and hid in a fridge to avoid scrutiny. They were also warned about Brexit, but what the hell - so long as we deport a few swarthy looking blokes to Rwanda they'll be happy. Even as their standard of living collapses.
It would be amusing if it wasn't so tragic.
it would make no difference
One could be seen as a minor aberration, especially in light of the "ambushed with cake" excuse so could be easily forgiven by the more partisan or neutral public. Many as it obviously should be would paint a much different picture which would be much harder to forgive. I know the police shouldn't be doing politics but this just makes them look unprofessional and easily influenced.
If the speeding fine analogy still applies: when you trigger multiple cameras in a journey you still receive a NIP for every occurrence, they don't let you off with the one because "that'll cover it".
The problem is that the cops know, if they do that, they’re going to be tying up resources dealing with smart-arse lawyers acting on Johnson’s behalf.
Yup, and they openly said as much. They stated that they were putting a higher burden of proof in place to ensure that only fines that couldn't be challenged in court were issued... and obviously that includes taking into account that the PM will have access to legal counsel well beyond the means of ordinary people. The legal system is loaded in that way in the UK, sadly. But still... let's stop pointing at the Met... whatever they do Johnson would never resign. It's down to the MPs to get rid of him.
And meanwhile, while everyone is talking about Partygate, theres the small matter of this...
https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1529008000249241600?s=20&t=TwnZ9IXf7w_yhZLWLTZG2g
Maybe this whole thing is the dead cat, to distract from the real failures. Not enough of a problem to get Dominic Raab away from the poolside bar, all those people needlessly dying, but you know, priorities and all that.
Lets just remind ourselves of the genuine sub 'thick of it' level of this useless governments response
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1431557759804350464?s=20&t=TwnZ9IXf7w_yhZLWLTZG2g
And meanwhile, while everyone is talking about Partygate, theres the small matter of this…
It cones to something when Partygate itself - a litany of lies, leadership failures and lawbreaking - is a distraction from further ineptitude and cock up elsewhere. Normally, you'd distract the electorate by pointing out a recent success story but there haven't been any success stories for years now.
Anyway, Grant Shapps has just been on saying that Boris wasn't partying because he was mourning his mother. The minor problem being that it was 8 moths before she died...
Anyway, Grant Shapps has just been on saying that Boris wasn’t partying because he was mourning his mother. The minor problem being that it was 8 moths before she died…
What's funnier is that no.10 will have fed him that line. Comms staff probably hungover, to be fair.
It’s down to the MPs to get rid of him.
Hence the reason I've written to my spineless shit of a MP again today.
He won't do anything, though. He's already swallowed all his One Nation Tory and Remain principles and was rewarded with a low-level ministry post and a safe Tory seat. He doesn't give a shit because he doesn't have to for the sake of his own skin. And that is all that matters for these leeches.
Breaking news, no. 10 has Minority Report technology! 😮
Oh dear.
'We must wait for Sue Grey Report'
'We must wait for Sue Grey Report'
'We must wait for Sue Grey Report'
'We should cancel the Sue Grey Report'
It's utterly shameless.
And utterly stupid - how would they expect Sue Grey to respond? She's a civil servant, been ordered to draw up a report, she can either be ordered to stop drawing it up, or deliver it and leave it up to the PM as to whether it is published or not. She has no control over the process in that sense.
Text of my email to my MP. It doesn't matter, one of his kids (who he is probably claiming £50k a year salary for) will have logged on during lunch at school and deleted it. But just for shits and giggles. Names have been altered.
Dear F***face,
Here we are again. The Prime Minister is shown, again, as having lied to Parliament. The question is now, quite rightly, being asked - "If 'x' was fined by the Met Police for attending that event, how can Johnson not be?"
His latest antics have further eroded the faith that the public have in the police (faith in Johnson is pretty much non-existent). If a vaccine-resistant covid strain appears, monkeypox becomes a real problem or some other contagious disease appears, do you think the police will be able to enforce public health measures? I contend that a large section of society will laugh at the prospect.
There is a growing tide of anger amongst 'traditional' Conservative voters about Mr Johnson's disregard for ordinary citizens. A party that continues with Johnson as its leader is effectively endorsing his behaviour. This is playing very badly with traditional 'law and order' voters as they are rightly scared about the erosion of trust in the police that Johnson is causing. Much of the policing of the UK is done by consent. Eroding that consent is a slippery path. To support a Prime Minister whilst he does it is (or should be) unthinkable.
I suppose it comes down to what Tory MPs truly believe in - the values they espouse in public or their own position. With this in mind, I am pretty sure this will fall on deaf ears, but I urge you to submit a letter of no confidence in the Prime Minister.
The direction the Conservatives are currently taking means I cannot vote for you under any circumstances. A lot of people that you assume to be Conservative voters are thinking the same way too.
Yours Sincerely,
Gardentiger
Panorama sounds interesting tonight.
Looks like a few of the people present at the 'gatherings', who Boris just threw under the bus have subsequently given interviews to the BBC with a somewhat different description of events to the one given by Johnson.
So its all a pack of lies, and people the who witnessed it are now going on the record to confirm it was all a pack of lies
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1529070475187462146?s=20&t=kghiYPRgfI9YWU_BTtMXmQ
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1529075595962994689?s=20&t=kghiYPRgfI9YWU_BTtMXmQ
there's going to be more incriminating images on the way then
I read that BBC report with some excitement at lunch.
This actually could be the tipping point.
Just heard laura kuenssberg being interviewed on The World at One about this evening's Panorama.
Seems like a concerted attempt to seriously damage johnson - by being honest and truthful.
That's a must watch.
I wonder which tory idiot will be offered up to defend the indefensible on newsnight; yesterday we had bone and swayne - both repellent.
Well, that was odd...!
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I think that as far as the "Tory Devoteds" are concerned, the exact opposite is going to happen. They will see a group of people who were more than happy to party/booze the evenings away whilst people were dying and who are only now - out of spite - 'fessing up. It's a stretch to call them "honest and truthful" when they've been lying/keeping quiet for the last 2 years. No better than Dome-Head-Dom who did exactly the same thing after helping to see the UK down the river for the Tory paymasters.
This actually could be the tipping point.
You see, people say this and then it isn't. It's like Trump all over again - just when you think the giant oafish bore has said or done something truly heinous, everything moves on and the tipping point becomes ever further down the road. Trump himself once said that he reckoned he could shoot someone dead on Fifth Avenue and people would just assume he was Making America Great Again by taking out a terrorist / immigrant / black person.
BJ is the same - he's a shallow narcissistic cheating liar who should have resigned years ago over the lies, the spin and the bullshit yet the tipping point is just shifted each time, dragging everyone further down the same road.
Years ago, there was an interesting discussion about Lance Armstrong - said he had basically 2 ways he could go after the famous Festina case - he could go absolutely clean as a whistle, clear out doping, be a true ambassador for the sport or he could double down on it. He went the double down approach, dragging everyone - journos, other riders, the entire sport deeper and deeper into a quagmire of lies, denials and litigation.
This - with BJ now - feels like we're about half way down the Lance timeline. He's still winning, still claiming he's a winner, he's world-beating and so on. The reality is that he's basically dragged the entire Tory Party down into one giant corrupt sleazy cesspit of scandal.
As with Lance and the legal cases he won, with every bit of whitewash (like the Met Police fines), BJ becomes ever more cocky and arrogant, it's "everyone else" who is wrong and at fault...
This actually could be the tipping point.
Not according to my true blue mother this morning it's not, people should move on and focus on the big important stuff.
Like whether the government and prime minister are trustworthy and competent?
Ah, but, there's no one better to take his place
Not in the Tory party, no.
Oh my god... have your heard the rumours about how they'll keep their more nutty MPs on side when/if they u-turn on the windfall tax to help with household fuel bills this winter...
- oil and gas suppliers will have to promise to open up new fields (so much for net zero)
- renewable energy suppliers will be hit with the windfall tax as well (so much for investing in renewables)
Thanks to some dude up there ^^ I'm now permanently left with the most apt description of that horror-show of a human being "The Unflushable Turd"
I don't see this particular push of the button (or yank of the cistern chain if you're Rees Mogg) having much effect but we await the ballcock valve noise regardless, ready for another go.
You see, people say this and then it isn’t.
It could be the tipping point for enough Tory MPs to write letters of no confidence to the 1922 Committee, therefore triggering a leadership contest.
Easy to be cynical, and understandable, but he WILL go at some point and it might be sooner than people think. We know the Tories are ruthless when it comes to getting shot of once-popular leaders.
DrJ
Free MemberYou know when someone has a carrot removed from their arse at A&E, and they say they “fell on it while eating a salad in the nude”? This “just bumped in to a party” excuse is about as plausible.
Also it's the 8th time this week that they've accidentally fallen on a carrot, and they came to A&E with a bunch of mates who also had carrots up their bums. And a greengrocer.
Bring your own carrot
FTFY BoJo
Not according to my true blue mother this morning it’s not, people should move on and focus on the big important stuff.
My true-blue voting friend tried saying that the other day, i was having none of it and pointed out it was a big deal because the prime-minister broke the law whilst others were suffering.
My aunt died alone whilst they were having the parties. I don't particularly feel like letting them off or moving on
Lied to her royal celestial majesty the Queen.
That should be a hanging offence in the eyes of every true blue patriot gammon.
Remind them of that.
BBC are talking up this programme - does sound like a lot of junior staff are pissed off with being thrown under the bus.
I don’t see this particular push of the button (or yank of the cistern chain if you’re Rees Mogg) having much effect
I blame those EU regulations restricting flush volumes. In the old days one pull on the chain and a PM would be sailing away into history.
It is slightly concerning...judging by the pictures of what is a work event (or NOT a party) in the main Government building outwith Parliament itself. Going by the amount of alcohol in the pictures I can see why all these government plans and announcements are being so bad - we've got angry drunks and badly hungover people trying to decide what needs done to fix things.
Brexit and the headache that is causing - (stinking hangover) - we'll mess up the Ireland stuff
Energy crisis and Cost of Living - (man, I'm needing another drink...) - let them get on with it as it is stopping me having more alcohol
etc., etc.
I may start bringing bottles of wine and spirits in to the office and have them lying about so that we can start having a similar work ethos - if it works for the government, then I predict a very similar success rate at any workplace that follows this example of 'work event'!
Suspect this has already been said further up but I've been busy today and not had a chance to keep reading this thread as it grows, but that is now off my chest!
Also it’s the 8th time this week that they’ve accidentally fallen on a carrot, and they came to A&E with a bunch of mates who also had carrots up their bums. And a greengrocer.
Bravo sir!
Apparentl;y 40 letters or so in to the 1922 (54 needed)
I still think it will take losing the next 2 by-elections before the Tories finally make a move
Apparentl;y 40 letters or so in to the 1922 (54 needed)
Where's that from? Twitter rumour?
And was that prior to this story?
It's now or never not for some time (when there's a more-obvious successor), I reckon.
that's why he's going cap in hand to the 1922 committee tomorrow
I still think it will take losing the next 2 by-elections before the Tories finally make a move
2 by-elections caused by one Tory MP sexually assaulting a child and the other by another Tory MP repeatedly watching porn at work
And with that you can take the moral temperature of the modern Tory party
And you wonder why they're in no rush to get rid of the fly-tipped sofa?
The whole party is a morally bankrupt cesspit of sleaze and corruption. Could they possibly have a more fitting figurehead?
The Tories haven't been dragged down, this is their natural milieu. The only difference being the scandals have been more visible, offensive and more lucrative. When the button is pressed on Johnson it won't be out of moral indignation it will be that he has passed the point where he can save their skin.
that’s why he’s going cap in hand to the 1922 committee tomorrow
Deja vu?
Apparently he generally shows even less contrition in front of the 1922 committee than he does to the rest of us. Quite some achievement
In other news: It doesn't look like the Mets 'we have no further comment to make' line about their Downing Street whitewash is going to hold. Its unbelievable arrogance on their behalf that they thought it would. But then we don't do accountability in this country any more, do we?
https://twitter.com/MetroUK/status/1529107608807825408?s=20&t=LNGGycxZqPPk8JP_sd8mRg
It isn't going to matter. If it really comes to it it will be:
Starmer hates the Queen.
Labour are traitors who want us back in the EU.
Labour will let millions of forriners in to take your job/house/wife.
Labour want to give your money to benefits cheats.
Here's a picture of some union jacks.
Free pint of Carling with The Sun.
Result -> another Tory GE win.
*weeps forlornly, blows nose on Union Flag*
I may start bringing bottles of wine and spirits in to the office and have them lying about so that we can start having a similar work ethos – if it works for the government, then I predict a very similar success rate at any workplace that follows this example of ‘work event’!
I thought about doing that. As a civil servant, would be interesting to see how they would deal with me. In fact, I think maybe the union should call for a "BYOB" protest rather than a strike. More people could afford to do that than lose a day's pay and pension 🤔
^^^
And drive home pissed claiming you didn't think it was a crime.
Where’s that from? Twitter rumour?
And was that prior to this story?
It’s now or never not for some time (when there’s a more-obvious successor), I reckon.
https://twitter.com/AnushkaAsthana/status/1529099061650984960
That will come as early as today, when a number of the officers tasked with not spotting Boris Johnson in a series of piss-up photos get signed off with stress.
😀
And drive home pissed claiming you didn’t think it was a crime.
And of course point blank refute that any drinking had taken place, or if it had you were not aware, and if you were aware of it then you certainly didn't know it was in any way inappropriate at work.
Some grim reaper style light relief…
https://twitter.com/christhebarker/status/1529076636976562179?s=21
A “BYOB” protest by civil servants would be wonderful.
I couldn’t see my mum while all this was going on. Fuçk Johnson. Losing his PM title is the least that should happen to him. I know people who couldn’t see their partner. I know NHS staff who stayed away from home and couldn’t see their young kids. I couldn’t say goodbye to my uncle, or attend his funeral. Screw this waste of space PM and get him on the political scrap heap sooner rather than later. It should have happened long ago. Is this the best that we can do, really? Accepting this man as the leader of our country is degrading and humiliating. He needs to be gone. Long gone.
Fully agree with that kelvin, lots of people like you made horrific sacrifices on Johnson's orders for the good of the country. To now know that he was flouting them himself so blatantly and all his subsequent lying and dodging of and consequences for himself is just immoral. I spent the whole of those timeframes only seeing my parents in a carer capacity, as per the rules, and would have killed to be allowed just an hour with friends to relieve all the stress that was building up but I didn't. The damage that has done (and is still doing to an extent) to my mental wellbeing is more than enough to make me want to do very bad and illegal things to Johnson if our paths ever cross, how the hell people like yourself got through it all I don't know.
At minimum he should be gone by the end of the week but we all know that will not happen.
Johnson is horrendous but even worse are the spineless, manipulative, self-serving Cabinet Ministers and back benchers minimising his behaviour and dragging the whole country in to the morass. It’s frightening they can’t see beyond protecting their own arses rather than the interests of the citizens of the country. We are f***ing f^^^ed.
All the questions I’d like to ask this bunch of spineless creeps
When's the revolution?
When’s the revolution?
it happened. We got Boris.
All the people attending weekly parties at no10 and feeling indignant about Boris not getting fined need their head wobbled.
All the people attending weekly parties at no10 and feeling indignant about Boris not getting fined need their head wobbled.
They're indignant because the boss that sanctioned it all got let off and they didn't
what a surprise...
Rishi Sunak is on course to announce a multibillion-pound financial package to help with the cost of living on Thursday, just a day after the anticipated Sue Gray report, Sky News understands.
boss that sanctioned it all
Nah they need to take responsibility for their own actions.
Boris needs to go -of course- and the Met are a disgrace.
I lost both my parents during lockdown.
They lived in Glasgow, I’m in Yorkshire, so I hadn’t seen them since before lockdown.
For the funeral, we drove up and back in a day. We had to take everything we needed to eat and drink with us in the car eating in the car parks of closed motorway service stations (no food available). I couldn’t put an arm round my tearful nephews. Only my brother and sister’s families plus mine got to go. My mother’s brothers couldn’t be there - I read pieces they had written.
There was no wake - we just drove home again.
Later in the pandemic my mother’s younger brother also died. The rules weren’t quite as strict by then, but it was still somewhat restricted.
All the time it appears Boris and Co were holding a regular party.
Nothing more to say really.
Unfortunately It feels like He could still ride this one out.
If back benchers really think us plebs have "Priced In" Boris being the eternal Bullingdon Boy then the nation is in trouble. This is "Trumpian" to borrow a phrase.
I'll keep saying it, There's only one group of people you need to relay the details of your personal suffering and related anger at our PM, and that is Tory MPs. It's no good preaching to the choir.
Tory MPs are the only people who can bring about his departure, they've been dancing about the fringes of it for months, let's be honest a fair chunk of them will have known about the parties and the general culture at No.10.
But clearly some still need a firm shove to do the right thing, that shove comes in the form of a proper threat to their own seats if they continue to back Boris.
To be clear, just keeping quiet and not submitting a letter constitutes "backing".
But clearly some still need a firm shove to do the right thing, that shove comes in the form of a proper threat to their own seats if they continue to back Boris.
It seems likely they'll lose the upcoming by-elections, if they do lose both then that might, just be enough
But Johnson really is a greased piglet 🐖
Mirror post ^^^ what a piss poor selection of wine and nibbles.
That really tells you all you need to know about the cretins and enablers at 10 downing street.
Mackeson, Romanée-Conti, pots of whelks and sautéed bulls testicles would be so much better.
I wouldn't wash my socks in the booze on display; as for krispy kreme - made from vomit and now available in vomit flavour.
Report out today. So I think we can expect the government to unveil some sort of help for the public over energy bills and the increased cost of living.
But knowing this government and what they stand for, it will be in the shape of a loan of some sort, to tide the public over, rather than initiating a windfall tax or forcing energy companies to take lower profits.
it will be in the shape of a loan of some sort,
Which they will then try and persuade everyone it isn’t.
Or just lie.
It’s a bit like a certain parrot sketch.
When’s the revolution?
it happened. We got Boris.
That’s pretty good 🙂
Yep the protest voters did really good sticking it to the man.
I can’t see them surviving the next election unless they do something like a windfall tax, prioritising companies profit over people probably won’t go down well and if its bad now wait till winter when the heating needs to be on more.
Covid also showed the plebs that the government can actually provide financial help for its citizens if it so wishes.
Hmm throw a lot of money in early and go for an early election whilst the suns out.
Report out today. So I think we can expect the government to unveil some sort of help for the public over energy bills and the increased cost of living.
Press headlines are trailing it - whoever said the package would be announced 5 minutes before or after the Sue Gray report was spot on
Rishi Sunak is on course to announce a multibillion-pound financial package to help with the cost of living on Thursday, just a day after the anticipated Sue Gray report, Sky News understands.
Well, who could possibly have seen that one coming.
So ‘there’s no money’ actually means ‘there’s no money… unless Boris has got himself in a spot of bother again and needs a distraction’
I’m going to go out on a limb here and predict a grand announcement, pre-trailed to the press to splash all over their front pages, with big figures (41 new hospitals/a nuclear power plant a year) and absolutely zero detail (there isn’t any) all of which, like everything else they announce, will be quietly dropped as it was only ever a soundbite anyway
Just more of the usual.,. Government by third rate newspaper columnist
If there is any actual policy, which I seriously doubt, it’ll be some back-of-a-fag-packet cobbled together bullshit which is soon shown to be unworkable, and benefit nobody other than maybe some corporate party donors
Did anyone watch Newsnight last night?
The two women from The Guardian and The Spectator were commenting on Johnson's prospects for survival. The more interesting thing was the body language on display. It was like they'd had a fight in the green room and were sat in front of teacher. Bizarre!
So ‘there’s no money’ actually means ‘there’s no money…
At the same time it was announced we borrowed £18.5bn in April. Yes, just April and the fourth highest ever. Like petrol, whatever’s announced will likely be a very short term fix until the October energy price rises vastly overshadow it. In the meantime, whenever we get rid of this administration the next one will inherit a mountain of debt caused by this lot attempting to buy its way out of trouble.
The Tory legacy will penetrate far beyond their running of the country I’m afraid.
Btw, Martin Lewis is reporting the oil prices have been dropping since March, so the endless profiteering of oil companies with the attempted cloak of green infrastructure marches on unabated.
I wouldn't worry about the debt right now. The whole "spending our children's money today for them to pay back tomorrow" line has been used to allow a huge switch of resources away from young people. That needs to stop. We need to invest in their futures... along with doing the basics of making sure everyone, without exception, can eat and stay warm this winter.
Don't worry about the borrowing, worry about where the money goes, who it is used to benefit, and whose pockets it ends up in.
Best borrow the money while we can, with the global economic shocks compounded by Brexit we'll soon struggle to find a lender.
Btw, Martin Lewis is reporting the oil prices have been dropping since March, so the endless profiteering of oil companies with the attempted cloak of green infrastructure marches on unabated.
I think it spiked hard in March, but prices are still well above the figure from the turn of the year and showing no particular signs of returning there.
https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/trading-commodities/brent-crude-oil
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/crude-oil
Expect to see something on the side of a London Bus soon . . .
A reminder that what “we” are going through isn’t the same for all of us…
https://twitter.com/theifs/status/1529341497086124032?s=21
Still it’s the Sue Gray ‘Rate My Party’ show later.
I'm trying to not get too excited about it as I'm sure I'll be disappointed because teflon bozo will inexplicably get away with everything again.