would give them the stamp of authenticity!
The only person whose interest it is not in is, well, Johnson.
I can't see how they'd get a superinjunction for that, the one about Gove for example sounds reasonable, but whether Johnson is snapped partying or not won't make much difference to compliance
I don't believe the superinjunction. I'd be pretty surprised if any judge decided that it was in the public interest to suppress such pictures. Indeed I'm not sure any judge would even be persuaded that if such pictures existed that the public would be any less cooperative if they were out that with the current scandal.
If a paper had those pictures, they could go to any opposition MP and ask them to out the story with parliamentary privilege.
Kimbers - please don't tell me it's the daily star and there's nudity in the pics!
No he's living with his aide & it's to protect his kids allegedly
We'll only know Gove is going for leadership campaign when it's a splash in the Sunday papers about his new life
Quick question. Is there a reason someone in opposition hasn't triggered a vote of no confidence? I know the parliamentary majority means it is bound to fail, but it sends a powerful message and the constituents of Tory MP's who stick up for the shithouse will be able to see the regard their representative holds for them.
Quick question. Is there a reason someone in opposition hasn’t triggered a vote of no confidence?
Its just pointless. No one cares
I'd expect Boris is now effectively trapped in the job until we start seeing some positive signs from Covid, Brexit, whatever. Right now anyone taking the job has to deal with the bit of a mess that BJ's government has created, so they are happy to let him wallow in the mire for a bit longer then when even his teflon skin is well and truly coated in crap someone else can come in and 'save the day' (spoiler alert, days will only be saved for mates of the new incumbent)
I’ve heard the reason “no tules were broken” is due to the way legislation was brought in doesn’t cover the Crown Estate.
David Allen Green suggests that this is only good for the organisers, those attending may not be covered by Crown Immunity, especially those from the press corps.
the Sun’s deputy editor was at the Downing Street party and yet somehow they’ve neglected to put the issue in their front page
The Sun had a similar, probably illegal, party around the same date, so it's somewhat awkward for them. (source: Private Eye)
Quick bit of polling, don’t take it too seriously, but it’s a flavour of what people are thinking/saying:
https://twitter.com/focaldatahq/status/1469327797013430280?s=21
https://twitter.com/focaldatahq/status/1469327824381165574?s=21
Even less popular than during the Cummings eye test farce
https://twitter.com/Mij_Europe/status/1469323274240897035?t=y20jnM3Md-vB5EQ-P4ogrA&s=19
Quick question. Is there a reason someone in opposition hasn’t triggered a vote of no confidence?
I'm guessing because if you do it an lose it actually adds a modicum of credibility to the incumbent, whereas if you wait a week or two you might actually get to the point where you can win? But of course if you do it and win presumably they are just as worried about who the successor is? Either because they might be good and by the next election have reversed the credibility crisis or because it might be Truss or Rab and the country will blame them for it!
@kimbers - where did they find the 24% who said they had a favourable opinion of Boris Johnson?
Some of them were probably busy picketing RNLI boats, or arguing with small retailers that they shouldn’t blame Brexit for charging them more.
A picture is worth a thousand words
https://twitter.com/sturgess_steve/status/1469245180566032388
Apologies if already been done.
poly
Free Member
@kimbers – where did they find the 24% who said they had a favourable opinion of Boris Johnson?
My sister and bil would still vote for him, "he's funny".
Neighbour down the road thinks, "he's doing his best."
Neighbour down the road thinks, “he’s doing his best.”
I never understand that argument since the key thing is "is it good enough". if the answer is so then who cares if they are trying their best. I am pretty sure I would be crap at being PM no matter how hard I try and so wouldnt try and become PM.
I thought the tories were against prizes just for trying hard.
^^ I can't get my head around it either. Basically Boris is his hero over Brexit.
This guy thinks all problems relate to immigration basically...
I've told him I just can't talk politics with him but he can't help himself sometimes.
Someone should send johnson, raab, truss and the rest of the odious sycophants a collected edition of Marina Hyde's finest vituperative articles.
Accompanied by a side order of John Crace.
Truss is on a mission
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1469310197923471374?t=mqksLXtPumZwM-Qi7W9k2w&s=19
Neighbour down the road thinks, “he’s doing his best.”
I never understand that argument since the key thing is “is it good enough”.
This is of course, the rational question to ask. But people by nature are very irrational, primarily drawn by their social instincts. Many people see a Prime Minister who is just like them; an imperfect human being muddling through day to day life, but for the most part means well and has good banter. It makes no sense whatsoever from an evidenced and objective viewpoint, but on a social level that relatability puts him in a category of trust and commands some degree of loyalty.
I’d expect Boris is now effectively trapped in the job until we start seeing some positive signs from Covid, Brexit, whatever.
So, you're pinning your hopes on the covid situation getting better then? Otherwise it is Johnson forever if we've got to wait for a Brexit positive.
My sister and bil would still vote for him, “he’s funny”.
That's a toughie. Try to do all future interaction by letter perhaps?
Neighbour down the road thinks, “he’s doing his best.”
Move house. Life is too short to live near utter strokers.
Truss is on a mission
She’s asked Raab for the number of his photographer. Same set, obvs…
Needs more flags
Family, eh?
The guy down the road (the Boris/Brexit fan), he's recovering from cancer and for all his faults he's had a rough time. That top trumps his politics with me.
I just don't talk politics with him. Sorted.😁
dantsw13
Free MemberWhy don’t labour stand down & tell their supporters to vote LD?
In the last general election Labour took twice as many votes as the Lib Dems and were second. The Lib dems have cleverly leaked their internal poll suggesting they're in second and that Labour are only polling around 10%, but everyone seems to be ignoring that it's based only on postal voters (and they didn't leak anything about the methodology). Labour have also leaked theirs and it says the opposite, naturally, but we also don't know how that one was arrived at. The Lib Dems have a proven track record of using misleading polling detail but does that apply here? Don't know.
TBH the Labour results just seem more plausible- it more or less comes to "we get back slightly more votes than we lost last time and the lib dems make a small gain" whereas the Lib Dem one is "we get 370% of the votes we got last time and Labour lose half of theirs".
And of course nationally most polling is showing gains for Labour that would match or exceed their polling, but nothing like matches the Lib Dems. Local is local but...
My scottish 20 pence says Labour are second.
What day is the by election guys?
@binners
That pic Of Raab is him calling IT because he can't open a bloody spreadsheet...
It would be funny if it hadn't cost lives. Utter arsehole.
That pic Of Raab is him calling IT because he can’t open a bloody spreadsheet…
It's actually him bawling out IT because he can't open a spreadsheet. Asking for help is weak. Yelling at people because they can't change the world to adapt to your idiocy is 'strong'.
I'm actually surprised he is holding the receiver the right way up if I'm honest.
Prat.
And the reason Raab froze when Kabul fell was because his foremost thought at the time was:
"Shit, this means publicly re-homing brown Muslim people in the UK. That will play badly with the Brexity new tory voters".
Irrespective of the fact that most of them had helped the UK far more than he ever has.
Wow those photos!
Many people see a Prime Minister who is just like them; an imperfect human being muddling through day to day life, but for the most part means well and has good banter.
Imagine what the same people would say about a doctor, nurse, teacher, police officer, social worker, failing at their job but doing their best and muddling through.
Wow those photos!
You just know that Liz is watching cat videos on YouTube.
Poops - by election is next Thursday; see kimbers post ^^^ showing libdems as narrow favourites with Ladbrokes.
If you're feeling nerdy - Shropshire Star website.
^^ Ah, cheers, missed that!
What's doubling faster than Omicron?
-Labour's poll lead *
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1469444673739665421?t=8sdMtibiP-DEvqNr6Ofuuw&s=19
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Stollen from twitter
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I'm aware it'll probably settle down in Johnson can keep his head down until new year
frankconway
Full MemberPoops – by election is next Thursday; see kimbers post ^^^ showing libdems as narrow favourites with Ladbrokes.
Which isn't just about likelihoods of course, it's also about gambling behaviour
northwind - yes but bookies rarely go bust.
As at 5 mins ago LibDems were 2/1 on, tories 13/8 against with some slight variations between bookies.
An article from political betting website https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2021/12/10/north-shropshire-betting-with-a-clean-slate/
Thought I'd pop over to The Spectator website to see what they have to say about the festivities at No.10
Had to scroll down a fair bit then came By an article penned by the Deputy Editor, (not the Political Editor, who is Allegra Stratton's husband).
It's titled ;"The phoney war on Allegra Stratton"
It's all the fault of political hacks pretending to speak for ordinary folk whilst being secretly jealous that they weren't invited, apparently...
Or in other words, it's the media's fault for reporting it.
Quick question. Is there a reason someone in opposition hasn’t triggered a vote of no confidence
It's the whole don't play politics balls.
I think there's an interesting battle between the libertarians and the authoritarians in the Tory party currently.
That definitely gives Johnson a problem going forward.
Quick question. Is there a reason someone in opposition hasn’t triggered a vote of no confidence
Why take a risk when your enemy is making an absolute rip roaring **** up of it all on their own?
More importantly, there is absolutely no danger of them suddenly becoming competent. It's the gift that keeps on giving for labour.
And just like that, it's off the front pages.
I think the Plan B vote gives Starmer (and the government, if they were feeling very brave) a chance to score some points at the expense at the expense of the ERG/CRG headbangers.
If Labour comes out punching, suggesting anyone who thinks it's dictatorship should educate themselves on some history, that it is only a mask and not a lockdown, uses some language along the lines of "behaving like children", "growing up" and "taking responsibility" then it will present we to the sensible majority, the waverers and the disillusioned Tories.
If the government took the same line, they'd upset a minority for the same result, with the opposition support swinging the vote for them anyway and no chance of losing. Risky but a chance to show some leadership.
