[Closed] BMW Drivers

Leaving my RWDs at home faw shooer.

I did a spin this morning, it wasn't in a bmw though. 😳

It's called DSC, and it works quite well, such that I never had any issues in any of my BMWs.

Never had a problem in mine.

Mine is at home, was lethal up the a1 on friday night. Probably the slowest car up there and still plenty of big slides, to the point the truck trying to push me on actually dropped back. could put a few bags of sand in the back but that would make it handle like an old 911.

DSC is no use with fat tyres and no weight on them.

hooooray for little fiats.

what would stig blomkqvisdt drive?

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Not had snow stick on the roads here yet but my 330 was a mare last winter, RWD + fat wide tyres with not much weight on them means if you lose traction you probably aren't getting it back again.

I like seeing the look on most German barge drivers face at this time of year when the back end won't stay still. White knuckles and a heavy right foot are great combinations.

IMHO modern cars are too easy to drive so as soon as a bit of skill/control is required the majority fail. We should all drive bangers and have some fun :O)

Tim

(PS I like BMW cars but my wallet isn't that fat)

My BM was utterly useless in the snow last winter, DSC or not, think it's the low profile tyres as much as the RWD

Stick 4-5 bags of sand in the boot that should help

My 320d was useless in the snow too. DSC is no help. No point in having traction control if there's no traction to control.

Got a C Class Merc now so still rear wheel drive. Heavier car so might be a bit better but I'm not holding out much hope. Got snow chains now in case I really need to get down to the grocers.

I'm sure winter tyres are the solution because Germany is full of BMWs and Mercs that all seem to get around OK in the winter on winter tyres.

318d tourer here - brand new tyres yestarday morning - still totally crap - embarrassingly so. DSC - pish. Wife's CMax is running around no probs 😆

Had no problems last year in my 328i tourer, fresh snow + hilly welsh back roads. Automatic with snow mode and standard tyres, taking it easy. Nearly got wiped out by some tw*t in a range rover on the dual carriageway hooning up the uncleared lane, he went a bit squirrely and missed me by inches.

535i here and last year I parked in a slightly downward spot (onto a curb).

In the end I had the car running in reverse with me out the back trying to break the ice around the rear wheels with a spade to get some traction...

In the end 4 people passing helped me push it out.

It's nothing to do with the car and everything to do with being a halfwit, I reckon.

Deciding whether or not there's a correlation between being a halfwit and owning a BMW is left as an exercise for the reader.

It's nothing to do with the car and everything to do with being a halfwit, I reckon

We live in a modern cul de sac which is at a fair gradient. Observation today indicates that FWD cars get up with no/minimal spin whereas RWD ones are stuffed. There is a 90 degree corner at the bottom which means that there is no way anyone can hit the hill at over 3 or 4 mph without risking a sideways drift into some bollards, so gently has to do it.

I have driven proper 4x4's in the desert, in the snow, and been on various off road training courses. I can get the Cmax up no problem and no spinning. My BMW is parked out of harms way round the corner at the bottom of the hill as there is no way it can be driven up.

however if you wanna come round and prove me wrong I'll stick the kettle on 😛

BMW's normally = rear wheel drive with wide low profile tyres and little weight over the driven wheels. Even a good driver would struggle i think.

Its always funny watching them try to get up the hill, you can see their thought process, the wheels are spinning and were going no where, i know we will give it more gas !

Speed is your friend 😆

Momentum, perhaps.

switching the traction control off when going slowly on soft snow (sand or gravel as well actually) helps

tbh its most RWD, I remember neighbours when I was a kid driving around with a sack of cement in the boots of their Mark 1/2 Escorts.

Had an Omega in the past too, the MV6. Once sat on a motorway in a queue in ice/snow and the traction control light was flickering while I was in 'drive', with no other throttle on a crawling downhill... note to self, new rear tyres needed.

I had a 320 Touring (old shape) and even with a very heavy bag of cymbal stands in the boot, it was still no good in the little snow that we did get while I owned it.
Back to front wheel drive now with a mock-Swedish Vectra (sorry, a Saab 9-3 Sportwagon), still with heavy bag of stands in the boot. But that's they're too heavy to carry up 13 steps from roadside to the house on my own

switching the traction control off when going slowly on soft snow

Tried that as well. Doesn't work on 3 series but it does let the wheels spin a bit more.

335d Touring very pants in snow and ice. We just use the Landy. It cruised up an icy hill that defeated two cars and a t4 transporter today. Smug to the max...

Smug to the max...

I couldn't imagine you ever being smug Mat. You're far too grounded. 😉

But yes, our Beemer sat in a parking space for 4 days last year - utter pants at getting out on a small slope. Hopefully, someone else is struggling in it this weekend.

Now if you could just teach BMW drivers where there indicators are and that 4 feet is not an acceptable distance to travel from the car in front.

Been very smug in the Uphill household this last few days. The Skoda Yeti SWMBO bought two months ago has gone through everything North Northumberland had thrown at us.

Bog standard road tyres as well. Very impressed. Went straight through a car park that had at least a foot of virgin snow on it. A couple of little "wiggles" but never felt concerned. Might look at the cost of some proper winter tyres, I think it would be virtually unstoppable.

Now if you could just teach BMW drivers where there indicators are and that 4 feet is not an acceptable distance to travel from the car in front.

That's excellent that one. Never heard it before. By far the funniest thing anyone has posted on a car thread in ages. Did you make it up yourself? 🙄

My FWD Skoda Octavia vRS was hopeless last year which I put down to the tyres. I'm not looking forward to taking my new E Class on the slippy stuff! Yikes. I wasn't 'allowed' to look at 4x4s! How I laughed this week.

BMW's........ Quite possibly the worst car going for the snow ! my merc 190e might be rwd but with spax adjustable shox and springs all round has been great up here in snowy Alloa so far !! Not so much to do with fwd.. rwd but more to do with the fact that most people dont know how to drive a car in the snow ! Funny to watch em sliding arse first down the hills tho !! lol

I'm just dealing with the conditions in mine. But then as a BMW driver I am clearly far superior to anyone else on the road.

FFS

The look of terror on the female 1 series driver's face today as she got her car completely sideways at not much more than walking speed was fairly comical today

The look of terror on the female.....was fairly comical

Worrying to say the least.

In reply to Scud's post I now find that Audi drivers especially those in Q7's are equally as bad if not worse than Beemer drivers. It appears that Clarkson was right for once. If it carries on like this I shall soon be able to buy an old M5 and appear not to be a complete tw*t!

How satisfying was today..... well first i pulled out my dads 4*4 from the snow and then pulled out a bmw m3 from tescos car park, completely flat car park & he couldnt even get it to move 6 inches !!! ha ha ha ha ha

I had a 320d with fat tyres which after moving to a hilly part of the country managed 200 metres in the first snow fall before being abondoned for three days. The only reason it made that distance was most of it was downhill. It could not even pull away from a slightly snowy roundabout in second.

So i bought a Subaru. And now keep a wide berth of Toerag and X5 drivers sliding all over the place.

That's excellent that one. Never heard it before. By far the funniest thing anyone has posted on a car thread in ages. Did you make it up yourself?

If the cap fits...

Same with trucks in Scotland. If they are jack-knifing why not make them pull over and stop until everyone is through?

If the cap fits...

FAIL.

Sorry.

The ultimate driving machine 🙄

FAIL.

Sorry.

Really?

You have a very strange opinion of yourself. If it didn't apply, why get upset...

It's unfunniness that upsets me.

And now you too. Watch your back 😉

😛

It's unfunniness that upsets me.

Best stay away from this forum then. Nothing funny ever happens here...

Just splashed the best part of a grand to put winter tyres on my BMW 5 series company car (the company wouldn't pay for it but I value my own and my familys safety at way more than £1k so I did) and the improvement is dramatic, the car is way more composed than previously and I've had no sideways action since. If you want to know how a RWD can/can't manage in snow then just pop over to Bavaria or Austria and watch all our continental cousins driving around in their RWD with winter tyres and no problems. If you can afford to put on winter tyres then it's a true No Brainer!