[Closed] Bloody police.

Just do 45 in a 40mph zone, you'll have their full attention in no time...

On the digger?

Tell them you've apprehended the thief and are about to shoot them.

45 in a 360 machine would have been interesting. She was sitting on bridgestone rubber tracks tho 🙂

You really can't expect the police to prioritise this when they've got [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/if-a-policeman-stops-me-on-my-bike-without-justification ]Real[/url] criminals to deal with.

OP make a formal complaint.

Hora I've not really had a lot of dealings with the police before, odd bit of vandalism on my sites etc, but this is a big deal for our smallish company. 15g digger vanished and no way of claiming yet for a new one, don't even know if we're covered to hire in a machine due to no crime number. Is this the norm time fre or is it time to put the big boots on?

Give them a call and express your concern, explain that you loosing money because of this and you'd like it sorted ASAP. Be nice about saying you understand that they are busy but that you've patiently waited a week mention the missed appointment. Of course they're busy but a week is a long time really.

Not quite what Hora said, but it may be worth visiting your local station (the big one in town, not the little one in the village / suburb) and asking to speak to the duty inspector. Don't get fobbed off, just explain your issue to him and you should have it resorted within a veryshort time

Phone them and ask them for a crime number.

Yeah, I thought you could get crime numbers over the phone on the non-999 number? Or even online now?

On the plus side, cycling into work this morning I saw some blue lights turn on in an unmarked green saloon exiting a roundabout and just had time to clock the women in the car ahead of it still on her mobile 🙂

told them my car had been stolen, by a guy who was 6'1, had long black hair and i had his thumb print, no interest. told them someone had stolen my number plates, had scenes of crime trying to take fingerprints off the car in torrential rain within 20 mins. funny how dofferent things seem to take priority!

15g digger

It must take ages to dig anything with a payload of 15g, that's about 3 teaspoons isn't it?

Won't issue a crime number over the phone due to it being theft of a vehicle. In other words I've got to wait!!!

Yeah you can get a crime number over the phone, I've done it twice now, once for damage to my vehicle - can't see why theft of it would be any different?

Plus you don't need a crime number to speak to your insurance and ask whether rental is covered, then get one hired and then call up when you have the number to claim it back.

Now Meehaja we are in no place to comment no how some things take different priority, let's face it our dispatch priority can be pretty ****ed up.

I had my car window smashed by some kids, saw them do it but they ran off - rang the police and they said they would send someone over - car pulled up outside and I saw them put a note through the broken window, then drive off.

The note said - 'we called but you were out' - couldn't even be arsed to get out of the car... 😡

Wrightyson can I ask which force this is? Phone up the local station and ask to speak to the duty officer or duty sergeant and say you want to make a formal complaint. They will probably arrange for someone to attend immediately. Sometimes the police run out of resources very quickly if there has been a major incident for example. At the very least they should have called you to apologise and rearrange a suitable time to attend.

I'm not hugely keen on slagging the police off either but I've recently become very frustrated with them locally. (I say recently but this has been over a significant period of time actually)

My son got attacked in a local park by a gang so when he came home I phoned the police and asked if they could send someone round to put the shits up them (they were all apparently under 16), they said they'd see what they could do but we didn't get a phone call till the next day, the guy asked if we still wanted him to come round. I got a bit cross and asked him what good he thought that would be, waste of time now isn't it? He agreed. He'd been given the wrong information by the operator too, my son had been punched in the head a few times, he'd been told he'd just been pushed, bit of a difference.

So then recently, I was in ASDA and as I came out, two massive ASDA employees were sat on a skinny bloke and a small LCD telly was on the floor, presumably he'd grabbed it and tried to run. Let me make this clear, the guy had already been apprehended. As I left the car park, I counted 8. 8! police cars arriving.

So that's why no-one is available when a gang starts beating someone up.

TO be Samuri 1 would be for the guy on the floor, another for the TV, another to gather statements and rest would be buying croissants for the station.

Go down to the police HQ or nearest station and ask to speak to the senior officer and complain. You have a right to have them follow this up.

A crime has been committed!

How's the boy Jon?

had scenes of crime trying to take fingerprints off the car in torrential rain within 20 mins. funny how dofferent things seem to take priority!

This attack was a long time ago, he was shaken up at the time but obviously he's fine now.
More recently one of his friends banged on the door telling me he was in trouble. Realising calling the police would be a waste of time I just charged round there, found my son surrounded by a fairly large group of children aged between about 12 and 17 and waded in, had a bit of a standoff with a few of them dragged him and his friend out of the melee and left without having to fight anyone, which was good. I didn't really fancy my chances with at least 5 16-17 year olds (although only 2 of them were being aggressive at the time) who were all bigger than me, all of whom were drunk and some of whom were probably tooled up.

Didn't bother reporting it.

The police really don't seem to care about stolen plant in my experience. Had an excavator stolen from one of my sites a few months ago, police weren't interested in coming out.

Luckily we were able to recover it from the tracker about 4 days later, stashed just over a mile from where it was stolen. It's fairly common for theives to leave plant for a week or two hidden away to see if anyone shows an interest in it (most of the excavators I get in have trackers fitted for this very purpose) before taking it away.

too true Drac, friends in the police get as frustrated as we do with unusual prioritising of jobs, I suppose an item stolen like this will be stolen to order and packed well away by now, and as an insured item will be covered (at loss to the owner). Its not right, but I always felt that was how it was viewed when my car went.

To reiterate Derbyshire police will not give a crime number over the phone due to theft of a vehicle! I have rang 3 times questioning this!! Insurers have been informed but want a crime number, which I suppose is only fair. We'll see what happens when pc no show gets back on duty at 3 this arvo!

The police in this country are effing useless. Full stop. Its only because most people don't have to deal with them that middle England has this hopelessly romanticised ideal about them.

As soon as you have to actually deal with them, you get to see how utterly disinterested they are. Last year I had the misfortune to do so, when a robbery cleaned out our office of all our macs (and my bloody bike). They cleaned out every office on the floor. So it was organised, and not a small crime. The perpetrators must have been there for hours loading gear into vans

So they've a crime scene, CCTV (or not, as it turned out), and the posibility of witnesses, fingerprints etc. And as it was so well planned, I doubt this was the first time they'd done it. Did they bother to turn up? What do you think? They sent someone by a few days later

And every time any politician mentions 'reform', they whine like babies. While of course demanding more laws/powers. To deal with what exactly

They have become a self-justifying law unto themselves and utterly unfit for purpose

..... and breathe

binners, you are basing your entire rant on one really poor experience of the police. Suggesting that the every police officer in the UK is useless is going a little bit overboard. I'm guessing you weren't in London on 7/7? Or perhaps you've not had first hand experience of the resources and commitment that go into a murder enquiry? Or experienced what it's like to have people throw beer bottles at you whilst trying to resuscitate someone who's been stabbed? Or perhaps you are right, they are all useless whinging idiots.

They would go up a whole lot in most people's estimation if they didn't cherry-pick which crimes to pay attention to.

How many people get the luxury of just choosing to do f-all about the bits of their job they don't like?

They would go up a whole lot in most people's estimation if politicians didn't cherry-pick which crimes to pay attention to

Fixed 🙂

Just to clarify - if it's a non-residential burglary then at the very least an officer should attend to take the report and request the attendence of a SOCO. The only reason this wouldn't happen is if all the units were busy dealing with other calls. If you have a finite number of resources you have to prioritise. Unfortunately a person being robbed in the street, or someones house being broken in to, or someone being assaulted would all take priority over a business premises being burgled. I think that where the police really fall down is not explaining to people why it may take some time to see them. Unless of course everyone wants to pay loads more tax, or be charged for certain services like the NHS. Certain forces are much worse than others.

I doubt they cherry pick which jobs to go to.
There probably aren't as many Police in your area as you imagine (or any area, for that matter) and if they are tied up on other jobs when yours comes in they can't go just drop it and run to your aid.

The Policing Pledge doesn't help matters as they now have to attend nonsensical requests for assitance in the name of customer service.

I think politicians should do more, not less. Having the tools of your trade, hence your livelihood, taken away is a very serious situation. I know several people that have had this happen to them - universally the police decline to do a single thing.

The real reason is that they are frightened to pursue those that they know to be to blame.

lets all pay more taxes for better services rather than just slag them all off all the time.
All services have to prioritse and lets be honest what can you say to help them catch them?

digger pinched from site on either wed or thu night and it is a 15g

The real reason is that they are frightened to pursue those that they know to be to blame

I note with interest that the west midlands police managed to muster 25 officers and the resources to mount dawn raids to arrest 5 potential (?) football hooligans, who might (or might not) have been planning to go o Africa

Hooray! Hight profile and we get on telly

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gqmvUOhkrIoLkwOhY0SISMaWEM8g

It means that I, and many many other people, suspect that the police are not prepared (for whatever reason) to take on the scum that routinely break into people's property and nick their stuff.

What a rational and reasoned debate this is. STW wins again ...

Police are almost useless. Good individual bobbies but badly managed at almost every level by senior coppers. It's as if the fuzz are trying to fight crime with one hand while the other is checking whats PC this week. It's time that the rozzers on the front line got to control policy in their own area. There are some peelers but how they stay motivated is lost on me.

Did you get that from the Mail? Any details- i shall call this evidence- of this actually happening ?

lets all pay more taxes for better services rather than just slag them all off all the time.

Or maybe we could listen to the people who actually do the job, who say its nothing to do with money, nothing to do with lack of powers, and all to do with piss poor management and lack of leadership and direction:

http://inspectorgadget.wordpress.com/about-ruralshire/

Junky, I'll take inspector gadgets evidence (and David Copperfields for that matter) as word of there being a problem over your neue arbeit tractor stats anytime!

I do the job, and I do it very well thanks, as do a few others on here. But I think most people would rather quote the daily mail as scripture, than listen to anyone that knows what they are talking about. Typical reactionary nonsense being spouted in debate about the police shocker!

Why do I have to provide details to you?

OK, I'll give you one example. A friend of mine had a hire van full of stuff nicked. The police were not able to do anything, so he went looking for it. This was not in his home patch, so he had to explore. He found a big traveller's site. The police point blank refused to go in there and have a look around. Not even look. As it happens the van was found dumped a day or so later - no effort was made to find out who had taken it.

Another mate had all his landscaping tools nicked - they eventually attended one week later, made no enquiries around the area, took no fingerprints or made the slightest effort to gather any kind of information or evidence.

Off the top of my head I can think of half a dozen other serious theft crimes where the police haven't attended (either promptly or at all), haven't made even a cursory effort to ask neighbors if they saw anything, haven't collected any evidence of any kind.

No doubt they have good reasons, no doubt I just don't get it.

And. I do [b]not[/b] read the Mail.