https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-45967845
Why not go to the zoo and bag a couple of penguins while you are at it?
Just read that.
Arseholes.
thats sickening
One would assume that somebody gave them permission and supplied the weapons too.
"Hunting" sheep. You have to take avoiding action to stop running into the bloody things!
Next they are hunting bins with sticks.
” Country sports is worth 150 million every year” That’s quite a claim since Edinburgh Uni counted 1300 full time employers in the industry in 2015. Or are the gun ****ers just adding other outdoor sports in? Seeing the goats from time to time on the hills is ace, and how is a spieces that has been here since the Stone Age invasive?
Nothing is more thrilling than the experience of taking down an apex predator in its natural habitat. Or failing that, a field somewhere.
https://twitter.com/LSwitlyk/status/1052216609757175808/photo/1
You can walk right up to them, FFS.
Corrr Blimey 🤦♀️🧟♂️
I’m sitting here bloody fuming.
She should be shot.
****ing arrogant tart.
She is defo deserving of a proper hoof in the slats.
Don't see the fuss to be honest. The meat will be well used, the animals died in better conditions than the vast majority of others that will get slaughtered and ate. They weren't just out randomly shooting goats and sheep in a field. They are bringing in good money to the local economy and the photographs are not in your face disrespectful like some you see. I have plenty similar pictures holding up fish I've caught, dispatched and later ate.
Anyone who eats meat really can't have a serious problem with this. It's a far better way to get meat than from an abattoir. Just another bandwagon to jump on for the ill informed.
Big difference doing this than chasing animals and ripping apart with dogs, shooting big cats for turning into rugs, or plain old blasting away songbirds here and there just for the hell of it.
Outrageous.
A grown adult wearing a baseball cap backwards.
(I'm on the 'meh' side, as all these animals are either non-native, or no natural predator left or just there for food anyway)
It’s a far better way to get meat than from an abattoir
How exactly?
The comments on twitter are hilarious. There is outrage from some thick idiots over deer culling. I assume the sheep are similarly managed.
Do people not get that they are managed? If mugs like this are willing to spend money to kill something that needs controlling then more fool them.
Surely taking pleasure in killing things is a sign of a psychopath though?
How exactly?
Abattoirs are generally cruel places, the animals can and do suffer a fair bit getting to the abattoir, being handled whilst there and the dispatching itself.
Surely taking pleasure in killing things is a sign of a psychopath though?
There will be some psychopaths taking pleasure from the actual killing bit but thats not the pleasure bit for most hunters. I doubt they actually get joy from pulling the trigger and seeing a life extinguished. Just like I take no pleasure from hitting a fish on the head with a weighted stick to kill it, but I like getting out on my boat, spending a day walking along a river fishing the pools, walking in the hills stopping at hill lochs to cast a fly, and of course the preparation, cooking and eating of the fish.
Abattoirs are generally cruel places, the animals can and do suffer a fair bit getting to the abattoir, being handled whilst there and the dispatching itself.
And shooting is completely harmless.
And shooting is completely harmless.
Yes, that's what I said didn't I? Oh no wait, I didn't.
I’d shag her.
Meanwhile let’s not forget the goats and their effect on deforestation,
Yes, that’s what I said didn’t I? Oh no wait, I didn’t.
So how is shooting any better? You didn't say.
Certainly not my cup of tea and I don’t really see the “sport” in hunting an animal with bugger all camouflage, that poses no threat, and has no fear of humans.
But...
I do think the outcry is typical social media froth.
I wonder how many outraged tweeters then went home and enjoyed a nice bit of lamb - because eating baby animals just a few weeks old is fine, its killing full grown adult animals that is wrong apparently.
And shooting is completely harmless.
Given the choice I'd take a surprise bullet from an anonymous sniper on a grassy knoll over being taken to an abattoir.
How exactly do you think farmers deal with sheep that need killing on the farm?
Certainly not my cup of tea and I don’t really see the “sport” in hunting an animal with bugger all camouflage, that poses no threat, and has no fear of humans.
But…
I do think the outcry is typical social media froth.
Or or maybe some of us think there should be more social consciousness when gratuitous photos like this appear in the media.
I defend my right to get annoyed.
Someone has too.
Buy a gun so you can really defend your rights.
What's the problem? Is it cos the shooter's a wimminz? Would much rather see culling that's properly controlled as opposed to a slow painful death.
I don’t really get the outrage. There are feral goats. They need managed. She is paying for privilege of managing them. It’s seems win win like deer stalking - or do people not realise the environment these goats are in and think it’s on a farmyard?
what I don’t get is the photographs with your kill afterward - and I dare say posting those across social media is see as just boasting about killing for the sake of it; but I eat meat and would rather eat meat that roamed wild than had a factory farmed life, and think we don’t eat enough goat - all the veggies wolfing down goats cheese tarts seem to ignore the fact that male kid goats are usually killed Very soon after birth as they are a burden in this country (veal has similar issues with marketing image).
I wonder how many outraged tweeters then went home and enjoyed a nice bit of lamb – because eating baby animals just a few weeks old is fine, its killing full grown adult animals that is wrong apparently.
Nobody eats “baby” lambs - there’s no real meat on them. Most of the “lamb” you eat looks to normal people like a sheep and is probably much nearer a year old.
Social meeja froth really innit.
The animals, which have no natural predator, are classed as an invasive, non-native species in the UK, and hunting them on private land is not illegal.
She's not broken any actual laws though has she? It's just a little lacking in 'good taste' stalking goats in cammo is comical, posing with it like its "Big Game" or something is just odd insta-****ery for a certain subset, but meh if they're entertained fair enough..
It's Just a Culture clash really though, 'Merican hunting nuts are a special case; travelling the world and paying to shoot local furry things just because they can... TBH I'd happily take her cash and point her in the direction of a, not at all endangered, goat.
I'm very much on the what's the fuss side, i can't say i can see any fun in stalking a sheep but i can imagine the goats were more interesting. Can't see the enjoyment in it but i can't see the enjoyment in fancy cars either. In the grand scheme of things the majority of that goat will go in the pot and to use, ditto the deer and the mutton.
I'm entirely ambivalent about the trapping of rats or the occasional hitting of one with the car and they really do just go to waste so much worse but i guess they haven't the PR of a goat.
It's an over populous invasive species with no natural predators not a rhino.
How exactly do you think farmers deal with sheep that need killing on the farm?
Go on then tell me?
I can't get worked up about it but shooting sheep though? Hardly something to be proud about or to display as a trophy.
what I don’t get is the photographs with your kill afterward – and I dare say posting those across social media is see as just boasting about killing for the sake of it;
The celebration of killing is strange and the way Americans do it is even odder. They are an odd group though. i can picture her sitting next to a friesian talking about the stalk and prestige.
i can imagine (but I might be wrong) that people want to think that killing animals is a necessity for food or to control population so that they can feel ok about some of the less nice aspects of the meat supply chain the created. To post pictures and appear to revel in killing (even if you eat the animal) makes some feel uncomfortable.
believe it or not there are many people who do not associate the meat in the supermarkets with real animals.
What’s the problem? Is it cos the shooter’s a wimminz? Would much rather see culling that’s properly controlled as opposed to a slow painful death.
Absolutely.
Why not round them up and cull them properly?
Is it cos it’s easier to get wimimz to shoot them then post crass images of “the kill” all over the internet so retards can pour gushes over them in some kind of awe of worship...
We have 70 cattle and 250 on our farm, instead of taking them to human slaughter we ought to get this tart over to shoot them all then post images of it in the same way it’s been done here..
Sure, why not.
Afterall some of you think it’s ok, and humane so hey.. lets see the “prize”
Crass.
I can’t get worked up about it but shooting sheep though? Hardly something to be proud about or to display as a trophy.
Sums it up well. The goat seems equally as pointless, then the claim about not being able to wait to get back to the hotel for chief to cook the stag is laughable.
retards
tart
Classy.
We have 70 cattle and 250 on our farm, instead of taking them to human slaughter we ought to get this tart over to shoot them all then post images of it in the same way it’s been done here..
Once you have slaughtered your animals in a cruel manner do you market your produce in any way? That's what she is doing, she runs a business.
Crass
Irony.
the claim about not being able to wait to get back to the hotel for chief to cook the stag is laughable
Why? There are photos of steaks from the stag shown on her twitter or instagram. Why wouldn't someone want to get back to something tasty? You never bought a juicy steak and looked forward to cooking it? Not much of a difference.
Some folk on here really are clueless and can't wait to prove it.
Pity there's not a group of French hunters there at the same time.
Why? There are photos of steaks from the stag shown on her twitter or instagram. Why wouldn’t someone want to get back to something tasty? You never bought a juicy steak and looked forward to cooking it? Not much of a difference.
Deer should be hung for a few weeks to make it worth eating a bit like the steak I buy.
Some folk on here really are clueless and can’t wait to prove it.
Indeed.
Deer should be hung for a few weeks to make it worth eating a bit like the steak I buy.
For most of the cuts yes, but there are parts that are eaten straight away, usually the backstrap, and by the hunter.
Indeed.
Yes, indeed.
How exactly do you think farmers deal with sheep that need killing on the farm?
Go on then tell me?
Ideally a .22 free bullet to the top of the head. In the absence of a gun then a sharp knife can be used to severe the jugular. It is possible to dispatch baby lambs with an injection directly into the heart (but I won't tell you what to use).
Wild goats in the Highlands need culling...Why is that then? I am in the hills most weekends and they are a pretty rare sight, there is a herd around Creag Meaghaidh, and I have seem a few single/couples about the Fisherfields, but certainly no more abundant than 30 years ago. And yeah...you kind of shot yourself in the foot there renee, most meat is hung for a bit to make it tastier, but you knew that; right?
You've ruined it Welsh farmer I was waiting for his answer but cheers for pointing out to him it's pretty much no different to an abatoir.
<p>I'm on the "so what" side of the fence.</p><p>Yes she is American and carrying the usual crassness but when all is said and done what has she actually done wrong?</p><p>There are plenty of animals out there meeting a far worse end than a quick shot to the head they never knew was coming, if you're that concerned about animal welfare maybe you should look at what's on your own plate before you judge what's on other peoples. </p><p>If you're wondering what my overall standpoint is, read The Ethical Carnivore by Louise Gray, it's a fair start. there's also a chapter about wild sheep around Caithness and how there is literally no other way of managing them as they are completely wild. Of course fact have no place in this discussion but I thought I'd mention it anyway.</p><p></p><p>As for calling a her a tart or hoping she encounters some French hunters, class act. I wonder, do you wish death and fire crude insults at anyone who kills animals or just the ones that kill the fwuffy wuffy widdle ones?</p>
Ideally a .22 free bullet to the top of the head
Yeah - from 200 yards, baby !
I’m most offended by the use of the words hunter and hunting when applied to goats and sheep. How do you hunt them exactly? It’s not like there is tracking and skill involved, they’re just there dawdling about all brightly coloured, standing out from the surrounding landscape and shit.
I once nearly convinced a sheep to walk off a cliff without even trying very hard. She’s a massive cockwomble for wearing camouflage too. £10 says I could walk up to a goat or sheep whilst dressed as a clown and juggling and still kill it with ease. Hunting my arse.
Goats are not really 'native', but they have been living in the wild for over 300 years. And there's only a few thousand left around Scotland, they are now fairly rare.
