[Closed] Billie Eye Lash

You’re probably not her target audience

Ok boomer.

Ok boomer.

How long have you been waiting for a thread to post that one on?

You’re probably not her target audience

Yeah, I get that, but doesn't stop my having an opinion on her music

I'm just amazed that this Bond drivel is still going....

Agree some of it is formulaic crap but listen to "when the party's over" on a half decent system (or headphones) and then tell me she hasn't got any talent.

Im generation x and think she and her brother are pretty unique; breath of fresh air. Much better than the succession of grime and rap of late.

Don't really get the whisper-singing but her live sets were great over the summer and my kids love her "Plants v Zombies" ripoff.

How long have you been waiting for a thread to post that one on?

Says the man who calls Billie Eilish, Billie "Eye Lash" . Arf.

She cant even think of anything to rhyme with guy

How was your song writing at 17? Appreciate you may not have had a record deal then, but if you did would you have been at your best or would a few years of experience helped?

I don't really have an opinion, she makes pop music, I'm not really a pop fan. People in the music industry seem to think she has talent, maybe her best days are yet to come. She doesn't seem to be a negative influence on people so what harm is she doing repeating a word in a song? Far worse songs have been mass sellers, take Simply Red for example ...

take Simply Red for example …

Now that's music you can burn with fire, jeebus, I had just about forgotten about them and now Ive got bloody "Fairground" (aka, the worst thing to happen since music since Gary Glitters PC world tech support visit) repeating in my head

My vote for an alternative Bond theme

Pretty much the same whinge my old man had at me when I discovered Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Guns N Roses, Metallica, RATM etc

Old men not "getting" the music the kids are into

Now Idles - there's a load of overrated tosh!

I like some of her stuff, BUT - don't you think it's bloody refreshing to have a singer who's made it WITHOUT showing young kids the way to success is to cover yourself in fake tan and have your tits and arse hanging out?

Whispery, bedroom produced music by numbers.

Nothing wrong with bedroom produced music.

Can't say her stuff does much for me, but then I don't mainly travel by skateboard.

Old men not “getting” the music the kids are into

Yeah, and kids today, no respect have they?

Says the man who calls Billie Eilish, Billie “Eye Lash” . Arf.

Having made the same connection, I inadvertently called her Billie Eyebrow to my 18 year old daughter.

Que much hilarity and a whole year of her 6th form now using Billie Eyebrow when she's mentioned.

Not her target demographic here either but I think she is fantastic. Saw her at Leeds Festival and it was one of the highlights of the weekend. And it would be a mistake to dismiss her as "pop" (not that there is anything wrong with pop mind). Her music owes a surprising amount to classic female singers from the 60s. And +1 to DezB's comments.

I always try to steer away from questioning 'kids' music as, as stated above, the music we all liked when we were growing up was often derided by our parents (although my mum liked Queen and Iron Maiden \m/ ).

I am going to download all her stuff and listen to it on my commute home tonight.

Pretty much the same whinge my old man had at me when I discovered Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Guns N Roses, Metallica, RATM etc

Old men not “getting” the music the kids are into

Yep, congratulations OP you've become your parents.

Black Sabbath's first album was released 50 years ago yesterday - this is the "Parent's (or even grandparents) music" of our children...

Over rated you say?

The 1975! ****ing pointless.

Streamed it the other week to see what the fuss was about. Rather good I thought, has its own character .. an ennui that seems to draw on a trail of LDR > Lorde > Billie and her own voice. Production is good too, lots of subtlety on headphones. I'll grab the earlier stuff sometime.

Eldest was asked 'what's Dads music?' by his drum tutor and he said 'Basically XTC' which was fair 😀

The 1975! **** pointless.

Got to agree there - take a handful of 80s indie, mix with some 00s pop, chuck it through a modern computer production unit and come out with the most bland shite ever. But, as any fool knows, mediocre will always be the most popular.

I'll take Billie Eilish over Ariane Grande any day of the week.

"Production is good too, lots of subtlety on headphones".

Thats the thing - when I was young my whole house (street....?) knew what music I was into and AC/DC isn't very subtle. These days I havn't a clue what my kids are listening to as the whole idea of music coming out of speakers is totally alien to a 2020 teen.

She is a star, my kids were watching one of her festival performances on the TV last summer, I've rarely seen a performer with such stage presence and control of her audience.

Dave Grohl has compared her to Nirvana. https://www.radiox.co.uk/artists/foo-fighters/dave-grohl-meant-billie-eilish-nirvana-comparison/

New Bond theme is great too.

New Bond theme is great too.

Really? It sounds like a kid has ripped off Adele’s Skyfall 🤔

My kids are 'target' age. They can't stand her. My wife likes her though.

No point to make here, weird though innit?

Dave Grohl has compared her to Nirvana

Well, he's compared her popularity to that of Nirvana:

"that she has with her audience is the same thing that was happening with Nirvana in 1991."

Bit like Lennon saying the Beatles were bigger than Jesus was comparing them to Jesus.

And since when has the bleedin James Bond theme been a measure of anyone's musical worth?

It’s all just noise.

My 13 year old likes her, my 17 year old thinks she’s rubbish but at 17 she doesn’t have a record deal so can’t possibly comment.

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I'm old and I like her music. I always think it's great how she goes to great lengths to cover herself up.

@drlex I’m not.

It’s all just noise.

Noise that can induce an emotional response when it's done in certain ways, make people cry, make people happy, make people dance. All while leaving other people cold at the same time.

Just noise, innit.

I like some of her stuff, BUT – don’t you think it’s bloody refreshing to have a singer who’s made it WITHOUT showing young kids the way to success is to cover yourself in fake tan and have your tits and arse hanging out?

I like it when you read a thread and some one says exactly what you’re thinking to sae you the typing.

OP; 10-4, dinosaur 😉

She’s shit because she doesn’t do enough drugs.

****ing kids these days with their straight edge vegan music.

Proper musicians snort lines of coke and throw TVs out of hotel windows.

Noise that can induce an emotional response when it’s done in certain ways, make people cry, make people happy, make people dance. All while leaving other people cold at the same time.

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Drac

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Noise that can induce an emotional response when it’s done in certain ways, make people cry, make people happy, make people dance. All while leaving other people cold at the same time.
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You're dead inside, Drac. 😀

I'm 56 and think she's brilliant, Lovely is a monster of a tune.

If it's formulaic, go right ahead and formulate your own multi million selling single.
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I wouldn't recognise anything else she's done, cos I'm 45, but just listened to the Bond theme and it's very Bond-esque; stirring strings, hints of twangly guitar, final chord. It is a bit dull though.

Just listened to the Bond Theme song never having heard any of her music before.

I thought it was excellent. Proper haunting stuff that reflects Daniel Craig’s take on the character with a nod to the traditional themes. You can imagine Bond being alone, miserable and haunted by his past.

She’s going to have to make room on her shelf for the Best Original Song Oscar about this time next year as it was way better than Skyfall and the Sam Smith one that both won.

Only I wish that I hadn’t heard it, as I suspect it is absolutely riddled with plot spoilers.

HtS, aged 51.

Bring back the birch! What them kids need is national service & various other old man mutterings.

I don’t have much of an opinion on Billie as a person as I don’t know enough about her but I thought the new Bond theme was dire. Even worse than the Jack White Alicia Keys one.

Really? It sounds like a kid has ripped off Adele’s Skyfall 🤔

Does the kid at least manage to get to the end of her words? Only Adele could rhyme "fall" with "crumbles."

Let the sky-FAAAAAAW
When it cu-BBAAAAW
We will sta-TAAAW

*puts foot through TV*

I didn’t like her. My kids then played me bits of a few of her tracks without letting me know it was her… they were all damn good. So there you go, we older folk can be prejudiced towards young artists even when we feel sure that we’re being objective.

Just listened to the Bond theme. I'd no idea she'd done it before reading this thread and am unfamiliar with anything else she's done.

I thought she's got a great voice but the song itself is a bit weary for a Bond theme. Never really quite gets going, does it.

Does the kid at least manage to get to the end of her words? Only Adele could rhyme “fall” with “crumbles.”

Don’t panic it sounds nothing like it.

So there you go, we older folk can be prejudiced towards young artists even when we feel sure that we’re being objective.

Duh!

Bond theme for goths.

= :87)

Actually, I like that it doesn’t have the big bond theme cheese. Darker.

And I thought she was called Bille Irish.......

So there you go, we older folk can be prejudiced towards young artists even when we feel sure that we’re being objective

Some of us are prejudiced against the old ones 🙂

Bond theme for goths.

This made me smile!

I'm 52 and I like some of her her stuff as for me it has a whiff of Portishead - album has a couple of slow-ish tracks but she's really got something performing live ... and a great relationship/rapour with her audience.

and +1 for what DezB said.

And since when has the bleedin James Bond them... Oh, I said that already.

Drac
Duh!

You're the baaaad guy?

She's no Billie Piper. 😉

Just listened to the Bond Theme - I quite like it, better than Sam Smith and Adele's offering - still not a patch on Chris Cornell though....
But as others have said it seems like a better match for the 'haunted soul' that Bond appears to have become over the last 2 or 3 films.

Like "everything I wanted" and its good to play on the guitar.

Also as above appreciate the fact that there is a female pop artist that doesn't feel the need to sing in her underwear.

Yeah, she uses a microphone instead.

I have been listening to a bit of her over lunch - I like it, she sounds quite like a bit more 'poppy' Lana Del Rey which is a good thing.

In that video up there ⬆️ She doesn’t move much does she?

The word that springs to mind on first listen is.... turgid.

Have to say I've not listened to any of her music. She's last weeks next big thing, she's big now, so it's my default behaviour to ignore anything that's big. But even if she wasn't. I don't like the look of her. That blue hair and black treacle shit dripping out her eyes. Eurghhhyuck.

Skyfall best bond theme since A-ha and Duran Duran imho.

I like some of her stuff, BUT – don’t you think it’s bloody refreshing to have a singer who’s made it WITHOUT showing young kids the way to success is to cover yourself in fake tan and have your tits and arse hanging out?

Could not agree more. Looks should have no bearing on it. Imagine if Janis Joplin arrived on the scene today as opposed to the sixties. She’d probably get dismissed and that would be shit.

I’ve never heard Billie’s music, but I’m going to listen to it tonight target audience or not.

Just having a listen now, the last album is a Master Tape on Tidal and is very bass heavy. Very like Lana del Ray in style.

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That blue hair and black treacle shit dripping out her eyes

She speaks highly of you so I'm told.

She’s shit because she doesn’t do enough drugs.

**** kids these days with their straight edge vegan music.

Proper musicians snort lines of coke and throw TVs out of hotel windows.

I do hope you left /s off by accident...

No wonder teenage suicide rates are rising, more self harm theme than bond theme. I’m not suggesting she dresses more provocatively but does she have to dress like a kid hiding her underage pregnancy. Probably hiding self inflicted scars.

Christ, quite the piece of work, aren’t you! That is, quite frankly, a deeply offensive thing to say, and you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

Whatever you think of her music or her clothes, or her eye make up, as a role model for my daughter I would take her way over little mix every day of the week.

but does she have to dress like a kid hiding her underage pregnancy

Apparently she dresses in large clothes so that people focus on her music rather than commenting on her body. Hope that helps.

A friend of mine got me listening to her 18 months or so ago and I got my daughter into her. The earlier EPs are excellent and I prefer them to some of the stuff on the LP. Wish I had that much talent now, never mind when I was 17/18.

We’re off to see her at the O2 in July ( and Lana Del Rey in a couple of weeks)

As a media construct she's clearly divisive along generational lines. This is a good thing.

Musically there's not much that original there, but the mix of influences is done in a fresh way and what she does is done VERY well. Assuming her brother does the production, he knows his stuff. I like the 'bedroom' vibe - brings a nice punk sensibility the whole thing. At 50 and as a product of the mid-80s, I dig the whole pop goth thing - takes me right back to my days as a Bob Smith wannabe. Overall I'd rather her than any number of identikit pop sirens.

Having said that, the Bond theme is dire. There's the gem of something good there, but she's clearly been stifled a bit by the needs of the franchise and the big production. I was vainly hoping for something less corporate.

MM... i'd rather listen to Celeste myself..

The current Celeste single sounds somewhat like Adele though, no? Not as distinctive as her previous jazz tinged stuff?

My enjoyment of music got much better as soon as I got my head out of my arse and learned that there's very little bad music out, just music I don't like (and there's a big difference between the two).

I heard Nile Rodgers tell a great anecdote about complaining to his jazz tutor about performing top 40 records during a show.

“I’ve got to play these bullshit songs like, ‘sugar, sugar, ohhh honey honey’—it’s all lame stuff,” Rodgers recounted telling his tutor. His jazz tutor answered that any song that sells and gets to the top 40, top 20 or top 10 is a great composition. Rodgers asked him, how can you call, “Sugar, Sugar” a great composition? “And he said something that changed my life. He said, ‘Because it speaks to the souls of a million strangers.’” 

Eh? I don’t get it.

I payed little attention when my daughter was playing the odd track of hers on a playlist, I then watched her performance at Glastonbury......she was awesome. Despite walking on to the stage looking like she took wardrobe advice from Kevin & Perry, and then having a malfunction with her mask, she was just ace. 17yrs old and had the crowd in her hand, bouncing away, and singing back at her.

I have since listened to everything she has done (which granted isn't much) and I can't find a terrible track among them. Sounds amazing on CD with a good set of speakers, or with decent headphones, never ceases to amaze me how much goes missing from music when it is streamed at lower quality.

Having listened to the Bond theme in full I really like it, she’s got a good set of pipes on her when she cuts loose, it’s got a terrific string arrangement and I think it’s one of the best Bond themes in some years, certainly better than the Sam Smith one.
While what I’ve heard of her stuff, which isn’t much, isn’t really my kind of music, at least she writes her own material, and can sing without being bloody autotuned out of existence.

It's a NO from me.
Lyrics for a Bond theme need to be sung clearly. It just sounds like she's drunk and slurring away.

Looking forward to the film though.

Lyrics for a Bond theme need to be sung clearly.

Why?