[Closed] Big Hitter gets lifetime ban

Or perhaps what I should say is that certain forum members do their best to bring out the worst of him.

Indeed, some of them have already posted on this thread.

Big Hitter gets life[s]time[/s] ba[s]n[/s]ck

I agree, Northwind. He's a good bloke who didn't know how not to bite, surrounded by throbbers.

oh well, nevermind

I was just about to start a thread on nuclear power n'aw. Don't see the point now 🙁

i must admit to not knowing tj much on the forum personally.but he did seem a decent guy.am sorry to see he is banned.

A decent bloke, but pathologically unable to a) see anyone else's point of view, b) acknowledge anyone's right to their point of view and c) let it go.

^^This^^

However, get him talking rugby and the banter would flow. He was, of course, entirely wrong (JOKE!), but there he was.

Any other topic? Especially one of a political leaning? Well, as molgrips said, really. If he'd had, as we suspect, repeated warnings on this, then there you go.

i really can't see how a permanent ban is made from being slightly annoying.

racism, sexism, homophobia, etc, yes. tj was none of these things

It's easy to draw parallels but the difference between Fred and TJ is, I'll miss one of them.

This reads like an obituary.

Seemed like a **** to me tbh. Talk about sense of humor failure.

Ad hominem, on the other hand. I wonder if that's where ultimately he fell down?

Probably, I was just going to post this link.

http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

Its unfortunate that so many arguments / debates on this forum tend to very quickly go down this route very quickly.

Move on, let's get back on topic. So which bag is best for cottaging?

It is a shame. I like TJ, I bet he's great company in the flesh.
Unfortunately for him, thm destroyed most of his arguments without breaking a sweat, so it was just a matter of time.
I think I'll try to stay away from the chat section.

All the best Teej.

This reads like something important happened.

DD and Northwind are spot on, a few too many on here seem to be able to post just about anything without any comeback.

Maybe there should be some rules about antagonising people with intent, it clearly goes on and is really not fair.

Im no tj fan but ever argument has at least 2 involved, maybe everyone should get a ban for it!

he did have srong views but his main weakness was rising to the baiters. on that thread two folk posted only to comment n what TJ had said who had not posted on the thread.

It was at times like school bullying.
People often pick the person who reacted and that was him. At times he did not help himself but there was never any malice or nastiness in his posts or his intentions. This is not something I would say for those who baited.

Its not my forum and I dont expect a Elfin like reason from stw towers but at least they have let this take place.

I wish the mods could just delete all political threads it would make the forum more enjoyable for those who don't come here for an argument everyday.

a few too many on here seem to be able to post just about anything without any comeback.

unable to a) see anyone else's point of view, b) acknowledge anyone's right to their point of view and c) let it go

From my experience, I'd disagree quite strongly with the first two of these. And as for the third, well, he was never arguing on his own here.
You only have to look at the thread he was banned on and you'll see at least a couple who were arguing with him have made sure they had a last word after he was gone.

Again not commenting on the moderation decision, but banned or not it's a shame he couldn't overcome his compulsions, at least online.

i really can't see how a permanent ban is made from being slightly annoying.

I hope the owners will forgive me for speaking on their behalf, but as I understand it (and as they have explained it previously) they run the forum to promote the mag, and if it's plagued by long acrimonious threads it's not creating a positive image, so it's not doing its job.

Lots of people in the past have complained about the tone of the forum when these threads proliferate, so they mods are right to try and stop them developing.

He has seemed a bit angry of late - Whatever you say about his argumentative style he wasn't usually one for throwing insults around. Teamhurtmore in particular really seems to have the knack of pushing his buttons - a glib articulacy that definitely brought out the worst in TJeremy.

Only met TJ a few times but very nice and genuine bloke, as said. Some great rides in the Pentlands midweek. Let's face it a posting ban is no bad thing if you're steaming into a forum posting 30 times a day.

It's easy to draw parallels but the difference between Fred and TJ is, I'll miss one of them.

I take my helmet off to him, he'd appreciate that.

a few too many on here seem to be able to post just about anything without any comeback.

I would question the validity of this statement.

I wouldnt question it.

You know how every group of people has an annoying person in it, and if you think the group you are in doesnt, then it's you who is annoying......

a few too many on here seem to be able to post just about anything without any comeback.

I would question the validity of this statement.

Realman got away with it.

glupton1976 - Member
You know how every group of people has an annoying person in it, and if you think the group you are in doesnt, then it's you who is annoying......

So if there's someone you find annoying, you're not annoying? 😉

I wish the mods could just delete all political threads it would make the forum more enjoyable for those who don't come here for an argument everyday.

Toss.

You don't want to see an argument, don't read obviously emotive threads. Subject censorship isn't the answer.

I would question the validity of this statement.

al if I annoy you and you annoy me we are safe ...will you be my annoy buddy?

That's gone way over my head glupton1976, what are you trying to say?

would you?

Whatever you thought of him, this place clearly meant a lot to him

I've been on here for quite a few years (before the big Xmas hack) and have had "conversations" with said big hitter.
Did he really offend so much as to warrant an x-year ban?

I dont think he is daft as rise to the bait DS nor are you as daft as have to ask

Kudos to mods for letting this go I wonder what it will look like tomorrow

Shame is all I have to say for many reasons

What will he do with his life now? He seemingly spent every minute of every day on here, trying to convert the whole of STW to his leftie ways. I'm sure plenty agreed with him but, wow, he had one enormous chip on his shoulder.

This forum is pretty tightly policed, I've seen much worse on other forums...naked photographs of other users posted after forum romances went wrong, sustained campaigns of harassment, comedy letters/emails to users employers/neighbours etc and even an organised fight!

Junky you already annoy me 😉

I find myself annoying so that disproves glupton's point.

I think it's time for a whole round of navel gazing threads...

Junkyard - Member

It was at times like school bullying.
People often pick the person who reacted and that was him. At times he did not help himself but there was never any malice or nastiness in his posts or his intentions. This is not something I would say for those who baited.

Spot on.

These type of threads thrive with more than just TJ posting on them, a few others should take a hard long look.

i also annoy myself

TJ's points of view made better reading than many others' "rare goats willy skinned niche mass consumer" type postings. People say he was baited and bullied. I don't think he was - he stood up for himself with largely coherent arguments (but was victimised for the occasional nonsense he spouted).

STW's loss if true.

TJ has a very active life outside of STW. It's a shame he has been banned but he has had so many warnings that he can hardly be surprised. We've often chatted about his conduct but he just cannot let it go - which he needs to do once he has let his opinion be known.

Well that's a shame - A really nice guy in real life and loves bikes / biking.

I'd guess that he's the most vocal / "targetable" of the loud lefties.

Replace Iraq with Edinburgh, and thats pretty much my message to him 😕

he wasn't usually one for throwing insults around

Ah.. see.. he didn't throw epithets around, but he sure as hell insulted the crap out of me. Some very offensive accusations on a personal level, and then he refused to acknowledge that he'd said anything out of order.

This forum is pretty tightly policed, I've seen much worse on other forums...naked photographs of other users posted after forum romances went wrong, sustained campaigns of harassment, comedy letters/emails to users employers/neighbours etc and even an organised fight!

you post on pensionersforum too?

I’m not big on censorship/life time bans. TJ’s expulsion seems a shame.

The only caveat to that is you must be known outside the forum. Identifiable. Not anonymous - which I consider weak and timid. If you have something to say, say it ... but at least extend us the courtesy of knowing who you are.

At least TJ had some balls and didn't hide behind a screen.

First they came for the Scottish-ish,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Scottish-ish.

Then they came for the tandemers,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a tandemer.

Then they came for the non-helmetists,
and I didn't speak out because I wear a helmet.

Then they came for TJ
and four big hitters started playing squash instead of tennis.