just to remind everyone
tonight sees the start of HBOs critically acclaimed vampire drama True Blood on channel4
and its followed by Generation Kill the people that brought you the the best tv series ever! (the Wire) adapt evan wrights account of the invasion of Iraq - now recomended reading for new marines to help understand the realities of war
and (annoiyingly at the same) time on more4 we get to see how the tories new mantra "Were all in this together" is all poppycock in When Boris met Dave; the bullingdon years
What about Vic and Bob? 😐
Mleh.
I'm currently trying out "Flash Forward" and "Stargate Universe" - can't really be bothered getting into anything else.
I watched the first 2 True Blood episodes then didn't bother any more - didn't do much for me
True Blood: Seen, some blood, some shagging, not as good as it thinks it is...
Generation Kill: Seen, doesn't know what to do with it's self. worth a watch though...
True Blood - you missed the lesbianism...
It is nothing but spank material for 16 yr olds.
True Blood won't be getting watched. Generation Kill will be, The wire is the greatest thing ever made for TV (and if it was a film it would be up there with the best films ever) so if itws half as good as that it will be very good.
started watching Flash Forward. fairly impressed, it loves those spooky cliff hangers a la Lost a bit too much, but I'll see how it pans out
True Blood is very wife/girlfriend friendly. Not sure about Generation Kill.
No mention of The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas or Criminal Justice ? Excellent viewing.
trailmonkey couldn't agree more about criminal justice watched both episodes so far back to back last night looking foward to tonights,seen greneration kill when it was on fx about 3 months ago its very good got it sky+ tonite as i missed 1 episode last time round
I'm liking CJ but the woman is getting on my tits a bit...all this silence and oblique answers she's going on with.
dd, i like that element of the production. no one really says too much so you're constantly trying to figure out where people are at. a throwback to the good old days of bbc/channel 4 drama 8)
Can't recommend generation kill enough. Absolutely superb, one of the actors is an marine playing himself, does a pretty good job too.
Its quite eye opening, not what you'd expect from this kind of program, but everything you'd expect from the makers of the wire.
Ive got doc martin on dvd or lethal weapon 2 on the tele and I will be refusing to watch any of these new programmes until they aren't cool anymore
trailmonkey - Member
No mention of The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas
For being manipulative Hollywood crap?
For taking a tragic situation and inventing a ridiculous 'sad' story when there were already literally millions of sad stories to be told.
I actually felt used and dirty having finished watching that film, and the historical inaccuracies just felt insulting.
Rabbi Benjamin Blech condemned it: "This book is not just a lie and not just a fairytale, but a profanation." His chief complaint is that it supports the idea that ordinary people were unaware of the horrors of the Nazis' mass extermination of Jews. He argues that everyone for miles around could smell the stench of death and expresses doubt that the 9-year-old son of a Nazi official could be unaware of what a Jew is (or whether he himself is one).He writes, "Note to the reader: There were no nine-year-old Jewish boys in Auschwitz -- the Nazis immediately gassed those not old enough to work. Also, the Auschwitz death camp was surrounded by electric fences, making any attempts to crawl in through a hole impossible."
sorry that you're so cynical, i just thought it was a tale about innocence. there are alternatives where you don't have to suspend disbelief if this was obviously a bit beyond you. nevermind. i thought it was great.
dd, i like that element of the production. no one really says too much so you're constantly trying to figure out where people are at
Aye, fair point tm. I'm just too 24ed obviously. But yes, I do know what you mean. I really liked the last CJ when it was about the did he/didn't he thing with that (really well cast) lad in it. Interestingly, I heard Simon Mayo's TV reviews panel saying that she had been miscast (well, some of them did and the ones I [b]don't[/b] like said she wasn't... :?) so perhaps I was going into it with some preconceptions. Still good though - I really like the chief copper, though the fair haired minion who keeps jumping to conclusions ois a bit of a wally.
Sorry trailmonkey, suspending belief about that subject is a bit too much.
I'm in no way a fanatical reader about the Holocaust and have no link to it at all, but this film was distasteful in the extreme.
I can imagine the way this was sold to the publisher and film company, and that's where the cynicism is, not at my end.
Oh and where was the innocence? The young boy who hadn't heard that Jews were sub-human according to teaching at the time? Hadn't he been in school, or spoken to his friends? Or even his Father, a high ranking Nazi?
The wife who didn't realise that her husband was a Nazi monster, despite the fact that his mother did?
The pretence that Germans at the end of the war didn't know that the Jews were being systematically slaughtered?
As I said, a horrible, deeply manipulative film.
Saw the trailer for True Blood - is it a rip off of [url= http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093605/ ]Near Dark[/url]? (one of my favourite horrors ever btw)
Oh and where was the innocence?
The wife who didn't realise that her husband was a Nazi monster, despite the fact that his mother did?
The young boy who hadn't heard that Jews were sub-human
Well, the way i saw it was that the wife fully understood the horrors but was unable to contain them any longer once they were brought into her own home. i thought this was playing on a theme of the wife assuming innocence for her own benefit.
As for the mother, she was innocent of guilt but ended up dying at the hands of the presumably innocent allies, highlighting the futility of innocence in this context.
As for the boy, i don't really have to suspend disbelief too much to imagine that an 8 year old boy would not fully understand the machinations of racial superiority politics, however, that is missing the point as the boy was surely a device in the film to portay the death of innocence and the innocent that the holocaust represented.
As i said earlier, there are other films that do approach the subject of the holocaust in a far more black and white manner and i guess that you are more likely to appreciate those.
mleh.
watched tru blood.
was utterly underwhelmed.
it just "my name is earl" meets "buffy" in a god awful high speed smash
utter toss
but then i think most tv is utter tripe, much to the irritation of my housemate, who cant get enough of xfactor and strictly come dine with me, while im watching ULTIMATE MACHINES on five 😀 (yay, machines)
[i]ULTIMATE MACHINES on five [/i]
Ultimate Roller Coasters! Awesome!
(Although I did like True Blood as well.)
HARRY HILL is bak 7.30 sat