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[Closed] Benifit fraud... would you report someone??

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The chap two doors down from us is on disability benifit for a bad back and legs.

for this he gets a brand new car every 3 years, council house and loads of benifits.

His wife does not work and they are basically sponging off the state.

If he is so disabled how come he can help another neigbour push a caravan up onto his drive, climb ladders to move his sky dish and also go out every wednesday night and stand for hours playing pool for the pub team.

The whole family are scroungers imo , not one of them works for a living and yet they have brand new teles,ps3's etc and can also afford to smoke and go on holidays all the time.

The only time ive seen him act disabled is when he went to get his new car in march, he got his walking stick out then and hasnt used it since!!

would you report it or not??


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:23 pm
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oh and he also helped another neigbour change the gearbox and wishbones on his car the other day too!!


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:25 pm
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"Hello - is that the Daily Mail?"


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:25 pm
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Yep. No hesitation.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:25 pm
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Yep.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:26 pm
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yep, thieving scumbags report them!


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:26 pm
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Yes - however the disability may not be that obvious nor stop him from doing the things you mention


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:27 pm
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It grips my ****, I go to work and work hard, even going to afghanistan and the like a few times and i cant afford half the stuff he has.

He also sub lets his council garage has altered the council house which he isnt meant to do!


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:28 pm
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Quite simple really - YES! Although, you might want to make sure it doesn't come back on you...


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:28 pm
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Do you know the details of his disability?


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:29 pm
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Why not...


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:29 pm
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In the present climate there are plenty of genuinely disabled people being kicked off benefits to hit government 'targets'. I think, by the sounds of it, he's probably got away with conning everyone for quite long enough


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:30 pm
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nobody likes a snitch 🙂


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:34 pm
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Yes, report them. If they are genuine, they have nothing to worry about and probably won't even know they are being investigated. Been in a similar situation myself,give as much info as possible, don't put it off, do it today

Similar situation, as in like you, not benefit fraud scum


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:35 pm
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Yes, in fact I have b4 now, a woman I knew who was claiming disability, hiding savings in her grandaughters bank account and moolighting working full time in a shoe shop......


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:35 pm
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*put down his Daily Mail and dusts off pitchfork*

If it's genuine then he's got nothing to worry about.... why not.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:36 pm
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snitch, no doubt about it. anonomous phone call if needs be. all you need to do is flag him up for investigation and let them do the hard work. even if he is genuine the investigation wont do him any harm an you never know if hes in big trouble you might get some nicer neighbours


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:43 pm
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I suppose you should, but I wouldn't.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:44 pm
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Yes, in fact I have b4 now, a woman I knew who was claiming disability, hiding savings in her grandaughters bank account and moolighting working full time in a shoe shop.....

For the record disability living allowance is not means tested, there's no need to hide her savings for DLA. She is also entitled to a job and to earn as much as she likes.

Oh and yes...report him.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:48 pm
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helped another neigbour change the gearbox and wishbones

He did what! stone him!


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:50 pm
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she is 'allowed' to work less than 16 hr per week not full time......


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:56 pm
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she is 'allowed' to work less than 16 hr per week not full time......

No not for Disability. She can work and earn as much as she likes.
If she is claiming a carers allowance or income support her work may be restricted.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:58 pm
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Yes. Without a moments hesitation. I would also have made a dated records of anything I thought was evidence of the fraud including photos/video as appropriate.

I was on site in a house (Housing association) doing some work in a rear garden. The guys said 'I would offer to give you a hand but im on benefits for my back and can't get caught helping'. Later that day I saw him lifting a sofa and a 42" plasma screen on to a wall. So i filmed it and submitted it to the benefit fraud people.

I also reported him to environmental health and child protection as he had 2 young children who looked neglected and were allowed to play in a garden that was a cross between a landfill and an animal waste transfer facility.

Hope he got what was coming to him and the kids are better looked after.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 12:59 pm
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well if you plan to do it in writing perhaps do a spell check first ... [benefit] ahem... pedant mode off..

We have a couple living opposite us who don't work. Sometimes he walks with a stick, other times he jollys along nicely, including on his v. expensive superbike. I have my suspicions but without knowing the full story - who knows really. At the end of day, I'd rather be working, than living off the state holed up in some crappy bunglow, rarely leaving the house.

If it makes you feel better - report them.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 1:00 pm
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ART - if you suspect it, where's the harm in reporting it? If it's all above board, then what harm did it do?

Be a good neighbour!


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 1:02 pm
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+N. In a heartbeat.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 1:03 pm
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Go for it and if you hear of anyone defrauding the exchequer by bypassing import duties when bringing shiny goods into the UK - dib them in too

And anyone that does jobs on the side

hang the lot of 'em


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 1:06 pm
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No never, unless I had evidence he was part of a large orginized benefits fraud. let him get on with his sad life, snitching on your neighbours is pretty low.


 
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No never, unless I had evidence he was part of a large orginized benefits fraud. let him get on with his sad life, snitching on your neighbours is pretty low.

Not half as low as taking valuable resources away from those who really need them. Shop 'em. If it's all clean, then no harm done. If they're on the take, stop them doing so.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 1:08 pm
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Seems a likeable chap, always happy to help his neighbours, how come you don't get on with him?

Has anyone ever reported someone for tax evasion?


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 1:08 pm
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Yep.

Not sure what the 'state' will do about it though. How about you take some piccies of him 'in action' and send them as evidence?


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 1:14 pm
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Please may I have the kind of disability that means I am able to live off the state and still physically capable of pushing caravans around etc?

To put it another way, can someone explain to me the kind of disability that makes this possible AND still get state benefit?


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 1:18 pm
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To put it another way, can someone explain to me the kind of disability that makes this possible AND still get state benefit?

Is he partially sighted?
Does he have a learning disability?
Is he terminally ill?
Does he require dialysis?

Edit: Although the OP says he gets a car, which means he has claimed high rate Mobility component....there's no way he should be moving caravans if he's legitimately claiming this.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 1:23 pm
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yep. shop em.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 1:24 pm
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<Peers over the top of Guardian>

dob 'em in.

<slurps from fairtrade skinny soya latte>


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 1:28 pm
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Yep. Do it. As others have said, do it anonymously.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 1:42 pm
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Absolutely.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 2:07 pm
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You're... you're not a hippy at all, are you? 😉

To put it another way, can someone explain to me the kind of disability that makes this possible AND still get state benefit?

This was on the news only this morning:

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13152349 ]Still being able to push a caravan around while pissed as a fart :)[/url]


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 2:09 pm
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[ART - if you suspect it, where's the harm in reporting it?]

Cause I only have my 'view from across the street' and honestly I have better things to do/think about. 😉


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 2:10 pm
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yes but he may be legit


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 2:21 pm
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Staw poll of the office says dob him in - Much less politely than that TBH...


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 2:21 pm
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Throw him into the nearest pond, if he sinks and drowns then he will be prove to be innocent and will go to heaven. If he floats, then clearly is guilty of all charges and should be burnt at the stake.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 2:23 pm
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Get him grassed up - i asked a similar question recently and the lefties all cam out in his defense.

Still dobbed him in though.

If he is legit then he wont have anything to worry about.

Get the camera phone out and take some pics next time too.


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 2:24 pm
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If he's sub letting the garage make sure you let both the council and the inland revenue know as well

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/tax-evasion/index.htm


 
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yes I did a straw poll and the staff in the Job centre reckon you should dob them in as well


 
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