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if that’s how you justify it to yourself - but that logic only stacks up if the only interesting thing about women is their bodies and all women look like port stars.Porn is for the most part anti-misogynistic.
In the orthodox playboy/ penthouse form, it’s a fairly energetic form of goddess worship.
it’s readily available, along with every other niche. Ask women in their twenties who date guys from apps etc if they’ve ever been choked during sex - you might find that “niche” is not so small. None of it represents how normal men and women interact, which might be fine once you’ve learned how to talk to the opposite sex - but if your are 12 and see sex as something you can just ask for /demand you are in trouble. If you think you can just select a different partner to do different stuff or who looks better with the flick of your finger you are going to be so confused when in real life women have a say in the interaction too.violent porn is fairly niche.
well that’s probably a deeper question but if you mean why do boys think it’s ok to act like they do in front of girls? Probably in part because they don’t look like not respond how the actresses do.why do these children express antipathy towards their classmates?
Ask women in their twenties who date guys from apps etc if they’ve ever been choked during sex - you might find that “niche” is not so small.
My wife, also a teacher, went on a course about misogyny in schools. The presenter had some stats about the kind of questions kids asked about sex in an online course. Up until a few years ago choking was never mentioned then suddenly they get loads of mostly boys asking if it's ok to choke a partner or how to do it safely.
The statement you were replying to about most porn being anti misogynistic is ludicrous.
I've been teaching since 2004. With a year on supply I've been in 30 schools. Mostly in 3 school for the majority of the time.
The behaviour in my current school is some of the best I've experienced.
I haven't been sworn at for 7 years.
Any sight or sound of a phone and it's confiscated. Some kids refuse to hand it over, they are put in all day detention. All day detention is effective for 95% of the kids. The 5% have huge range of stuff done to help them. It's mostly effective.
Currently policy is fighting, on the 2nd offence-expelled. Knives/weapons drugs- expelled.
It's a nice place to work.
It has a mixed catchment. One super nice area. One very deprived area.
Any sight or sound of a phone and it's confiscated. Some kids refuse to hand it over, they are put in all day detention. All day detention is effective for 95% of the kids. The 5% have huge range of stuff done to help them. It's mostly effective.
Currently policy is fighting, on the 2nd offence-expelled. Knives/weapons drugs- expelled.
Is this in a state school?
Expulsion just isn't a thing in Scotland any more, even detentions seem to be a thing of the past in a lot of schools. Apart from anything else there's a practical issue in some areas. If a kid gets expelled there's nowhere else to go.
We used to have a system where you wrote a kid's name on the board as a visual reminder if they misbehaved. A second offence you put a tick beside it and a third earned them a transfer. We were told we had to stop that because it was in contravention of the UN convention on the rights of the child.
We've got 40% in SIMD 1&2 and to be honest it's the poverty and the lack of .....almost everything, that is an issue.
As a society we can kid ourselves that everything is ok but it really isn't for a good number of the next generation.
Part of the issue is theres a lack of honesty in the conversation. We complain politicians say everything is ok. I honestly believe they are telling the truth but only because that's what they've been told.
At the chalk face we can say that 90% of an initiative is failing but by the time the headteacher gets the information 10% is working well, head of education hears that there is success in the initiative and scotgov hears that it is working well. Everyone has trimmed the truth so they have success.
There are no honest no blame conversations, which means we can't go forward.
^Sounds like everything else in this country, especially policing and courts .
At the chalk face we can say that 90% of an initiative is failing but by the time the headteacher gets the information 10% is working well, head of education hears that there is success in the initiative and scotgov hears that it is working well. Everyone has trimmed the truth so they have success.
Reminds me of something in one of those office noticeboard books. Something along the lines of
- In the beginning was the plan
- The workers saw the plan and said it was shit
- The supervisors told management that the plan was manure
- The managers told the board that the plan was that which was good for growth
- And lo, the plan became policy
Behaviour isn't just atrocious in schools, look at the conduct of some our celebrities/public figures/reality TV stars/influencers, of people on the roads, in business, in public office.
It's by far and away not everyone but the me, me, me social media echo chamber of modern life does not give adequate checks and balances on behaviour.
Those who have nothing to lose and don't fear consequences can behave badly with relative impunity while those bound by moral and professional standards must be more measured in their daily lives and responses so that side of life is no longer visible as the norm. The norm presented of behaviour has become engineered "reality" for telly and the internet.
Old man shouts at clouds I know 🙂
Just had a thought on this - and a question/ hypothesis.
Obviously COVID broke a lot of things to do with kids and their behaviour. But if you take a step far enough back, and overlook the short-term blips, is this part of a much larger trend?
As a whole, we're less strict parents than our parents were - our kids probably get more leeway than we did as kids, and we don't go in for casual corporal punishment. And the way our parents tell it, we had a much easier time of it than they did when they were kids with their parents. So there's a trend line there; is current kids' behaviour an extension of a similar trend?
@nicko74 I was locked under the stairs by my grandad, given the slipper by my old man, slapped across the back of my legs (in shorts) at Primary School and given the cane in High School but it did nothing to improve my behaviour.
I definitely didn’t want that for my kids but I think you might have a good point.
25 years ago a police officer told me he was policing a dregs society.Society is much worse now.
Just had a thought on this - and a question/ hypothesis.
Obviously COVID broke a lot of things to do with kids and their behaviour. But if you take a step far enough back, and overlook the short-term blips, is this part of a much larger trend?
As a whole, we're less strict parents than our parents were - our kids probably get more leeway than we did as kids, and we don't go in for casual corporal punishment. And the way our parents tell it, we had a much easier time of it than they did when they were kids with their parents. So there's a trend line there; is current kids' behaviour an extension of a similar trend?
I would say this is not the case, using sweeping generalisations the kids with parents much less likely to smack their kids have better behaved kids than those that make you wonder.....
In my view lockdowns did a lot of damage, I don't see worse behaviour than 20 years ago but I see far more kids who really do seem to struggle with understanding how to behave..class sizes have ballooned in the last 5-10 years too which makes everything harder.
I dont know about behaviour in schools as I dont go to school anymore. I do see kids interacting with each other and parents whilst out and about and some , the minority really , is awful.
Chav parents swearing at their kids in a supermarket because kid #1 wants a toy and kid #2 wants new shoes. Then its tears and screaming to manipulate and or embaress said parent into submission. This then escalates into more swearing and often kid being frogmarched around shop .
Teenagers dressed as wanna be roadmen when its a hot sunny day and their idea of rebellion is doing a wheelie the wrong way down a one way street. Lots of play fighting , pushing , slapping and boisterous behaviour esp in mixed groups. Probably the usual alpha male pecking order being established . But then theres other groups of lads on DJ bikes who are pretty laid back and its possible to have a grown up converstion with them.
Does seem worse to me than 30 years ago, but we did bad things back then too just probably not as publicly and I certainly wouldnt have sworn at my parents and they wouldnt have sworn at me , ever.