[Closed] beeping the swear words in music

So disapprove then, as they get older you'll find yourself disapproving of a host of things they say and do and unable to do anything about it.

I grew up with the Vietnam war, Belfast, student riots, tanks in the streets on TV. My parents were bombed and played in aircraft wreckage for real.

Kids cope with things in a matter of fact way. I really don't think that junior listening to Liam mouthing off will lead to mental health issues. "Protecting him" from the world as it really is might have though, because you can't protect them for ever and progressively learning is preferable to a culture shock.

I don't have much to add to this thread as my son is only 10 months old, but I have it all to come so am reading with interest.

I would however like to congratulate edukator. Two pages in, and he's so far resisted the temptation to tell everyone that he lives in France 🙂

Well done. Keep it up.

So when I sit down to let her watch the news with me how do you suggest I let her "progressively learn" what the phrase "brutally raped and murdered" means? Or "child pornography"? Or "suicide bombing"?

I'm not saying they should be shielded from reality till they are 18, but personally I'd rather introduce [i]normal[/i] notions of sex, death and behaviour, before covering the abnormal ones.

And that includes not teaching young children to swear and not swearing in front of them.

One of juniors mates recently ran out of the house barefoot and was found dead of exposure a couple of days later. Unless you maintain your sprinting levels at what a super-fit 18 year old can do you are "unable".

Set a good example by all means, I reckon that getting all upset about a few swear words in songs is far from setting a good example. I remember my parents laughing at Chuck Berry's "My Ding-a-ling", explaining what his ding-a-ling really was and finding the Mary Whitehouse ban attempt pathetic. I also remember my father's favourite names for his car when it broke. I think they set an excellent example.

And what are the beeped words in Boy named Sue?

So when I sit down to let her watch the news with me how do you suggest I let her "progressively learn" what the phrase "brutally raped and murdered" means? Or "child pornography"? Or "suicide bombing"?

Ohh and Edukator - I don't get 'all upset' by swearing in music (I listen to Dr Dre, Eminem etc). It doesn't mean I would play their stuff in front of my girls.

(I have no idea what point you are making about running after children - it makes no sense whatsoever so I won't attempt to comment on that)

A gratuitous and unrelated dig from Neal, I'm flattered. NTM

And what are the beeped words in Boy named Sue?

**** and bugger

Strangely the first word which is what most parents do regularly gets censored but the second which would get most husbands a slap or divorce is not.

what most parents do regularly

Things [i]are[/i] very different in France aren't they? 😆

TBH if you go down the censoring swearing route, what are you going to do about explaining the lyrics in Lucy in Sky with Diamonds or Brown Sugar or Golden Brown, or Perfect day, or I'm waiting for the man...None of which have any swearing in.

swearing in context...they're ****ing ace... 😆

JohnDoh has never been to Fife. It is NORMAL there. They make your roughest sweary Builder look like a saint!

Nickc - that's easy. I'd say I don't really know as that is a pretty honest answer really.

Kids need parents who show balanced, measured and tolerant attitudes. Parents who react proportionately.

I would certainly agree with that.

A gratuitous and unrelated dig from Neal, I'm flattered. [b]NTM[/b]

It was a lighthearted poke in the ribs (see the smiley?)

Hardly "reacting proportionally" are you ?

Care to explain the super clever French acronym you used at the end ?

Has anyone come across anything that can automatically bleep the swear words out of songs played through Spotify etc.

Is there an app or something that adds extra swear words into songs that don't have them? Like musical Tourettes kinda thing? I'd buy that. 😉

Care to explain the super clever French acronym you used at the end ?

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TBH if you go down the censoring swearing route, what are you going to do about explaining the lyrics in Lucy in Sky with Diamonds or Brown Sugar or Golden Brown, or Perfect day, or I'm waiting for the man...None of which have any swearing in.

Kids will often sing songs though without knowing what the meaning is and you don't 'have' to explain them.
I didn't realise what the song 'Golden Brown' was actually about until I was about 18. Never questioned the lyrics - just thought it was a good song.
One of my nephews is the same with Ed Sheeran's song, A-Team. He's just turned 8, sings it all the time but has no idea what it's about and has never asked.
But, I'm pretty sure my Sister wouldn't be happy with him listening to & singing the lyrics to Metallica's So What, though.

gfs, I know what it means 🙂

I was wondering how edukator would justify. "F*^* your mother!" As a proportionate reaction.

I quite like it

EDIT - the Album I mean

Edukator - you completely and utterly miss my point. I do not doubt for a minute that children learn all these words as they progress through school and via the internet but our responsibility as adults dictate that we do not openly accept it as normal. Children shouldn't hear sweary music (with the approval of adults) in the same way the same adults shouldn't swear in front of them.

I agree with Johndo here. My son is 13 and I know he watches youtube videos with swearing in them, films with swearing in them (eg, Kick Ass - which his mother let him watch last year!) and he has started to like grime music, which is full of it! However I don't encourage him to listen to sweary things and would rather he had 'clean' versions of songs! In fact i think he's a bit embarrassed by swears in songs when I'm around, which is strange cos he knows what I listen to! - he played me a track in the car the other day and skipped the end where there was a talking bit full of Fs.

I can only suggest that anyone worried about the kiddies hearing inappropriate lyrics set up censored playlists that don't have iffy stuff included.
Which may not work with things like Spotify, in which case stop using Spotify and use your own music instead of rented music.
I have a CD single of a track from a movie soundtrack, [i]Another Body Murdered[/i], by Faith No More V The Booya Tribe, and it has various words obscured, like they do on the Beeb, and it bugs the heck out of me; I can't seem to find an unexpurgated version. 👿

I once complained to the BBC when they showed Rage Against the Machine live and bleeped (very badly) all the swears out.
They showed it again on a Best of Late Show music with the rude words back in.
I like to think I did that. **** the BBC!

ps - CountZero - you need the album version http://r.ebay.com/ZwjAOy 😆

I have a CD single of a track from a movie soundtrack, Another Body Murdered, by Faith No More V The Booya Tribe,

Ah that'll be the "Judgement Night" album - I used to love that - cracking soundtrack to a fairly mediocre movie.