[Closed] Been threatend....come on then.

Just in case I can;t look after myself anymore I've kept his texts and mail. 😐

Oh god, has Ton moved into extortion to fund his bike habit!? 😀

His bigger than Ton but ten times slower 😛

Drop the big one the instant they walk through the door in the most horrific way you can think, slice through his achillies tendon with a straight razor or shove a big screwdriver right up his bum. That'll make them re-think their situation.

Hehe 🙂

Seriously for a sec, I'd have a word with the old bill. Or Ton 🙂

Windmill arms should resolve this situation favourably for you.

If you can stop your spurs a jangling, I hear pheromone wipes may help you win them over 😉

I like the way they've given me six days notice! Though it would be a pain if they did actually try to take anything.

enough time for ton to get to you, if he sets out now...

call old bill . ask your rights.

if they still come, dial 999 and hand it to the 1st person the phone that walks in. then bolt crop him

@ retro83

Good idea, I'm gonna grow my nails as well.

Samuri I will at least visualise your suggestion as he walks in.

Yeah I will have to pop into the local nick, I don't mind dealing with them but I do have a business to run.
What dimwits, we're gonna get you, yeah we're coming, any day now. Reminds me of Peter Kay in Phoenix Nights when his on his stair lift whilst taking his girlfriend upstairs.

Sounds like a civil debt for which they will have to apply to a small claims court and demonstrate that you owe it to them.

OR... it may well be Blackmail - section 21(1) of the Theft Act states:

"A person is guilty of Blackmail if, with a view to gain for himself or another or with intent to cause loss to another, he makes any unwarranted demand with menaces; and for this purpose a demand with menaces is unwarranted unless the person making it does so in the belief:

a) That he has reasonable grounds for making the demand; and
b) that the use of the menaces is a proper means of reinforcing the demand."

The word Menaces in this context has been held to be a threat (including veiled one) of any action detrimental or unpleasant to the person addressed or something which would intimidate or influence the response.

you could just lock the door

There was a business that traded out of my premises doing the same thing as my company.I was associated with them but I'm not any longer.

Now call me a cynic, but that sounds just like the typical business practice of dodgy builders who just close down one business when trouble arrives and then open another one with a slightly different name! 😉

You need some "lumps" of your own! 😉

where are you based?

Not one of binners's customers are you?

Just call the Police. Thats what they are their for or am I missing something?

No it's another company, they're still going but not from the place I now work.
I was associated with them in that I was working for them, but I never got paid or had a contract in fact. In fact they owe me about 4K as well.

They used these premises but moved on and I continued in the same line of work. So they are assuming their goods are here but there not. Everything here has been bought and paid for by my company. The other company I assume is failing because I've had a few calls!

hora you silly billy, call the police? these guys wont be here for days yet how will the police be able to respond in time?

saying that they are going to collect cash or take goods.

Sounds like they have something official rather than just a speculative visit
I'd rather not pander to these sorts of tactics but on this occasion it may be wise to have some paperwork showing that you're not the same company
I'd also lock all doors & windows & meet them outside

uplink

I've had my name over the door since 2002.

what uplink said - if they're trying to do this 'properly' they'll have paperwork and you need to have your own.

Given they've warned you could you not visit them to discuss it in advance and establish the facts with them - it;'ll be a lot less emotional all round if you pre-empt them.

Finally, I would tell the old bill now about the situation so you are at least on record as having had an issue - you'll get a quicker response if you do need to call on them in the future.

get a small cctv system http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Safety+Security/CCTV/Wireless+Camera+Black+White/d200/sd2653/p72712

and record the theft if they take anything.

CCTV seems a good option. Presume you'll need signs up informing all 'customers' that there is CCTV operating and who operates it etc.

Right I've found this out from another ex employee.
The company coming after the money sold goods to 'The Other' company but they still had this address for invoicing, the goods were delivered elsewhere.
No order originated from here
No goods were delivered here
Nothing to do with us.
Their problem is I guess, that I once worked for 'the Other company' and I do the same thing.

do not resort to violence.........it does not work..
phone the police, tell them the situation, ask their advice.

phone the police, tell them the situation, ask their advice.

Exactly. Call them before. Ask to speak to your local Officer, explain the situation and that you fear for your safety (which technically is true). Seriously, I'd happily defend my property however if I had prewarning I'd call the professionals.

For the record, I'm not scared of anyone and I've no idea how 'ard I am and I never want to find out how 'ard I am either. Pointless.

[i]The company coming after the money sold goods to 'The Other' company but they still had this address for invoicing, the goods were delivered elsewhere.
[/i]

Did you contact them when you received the incorrectly addressed invoice and let them know of their mistake, or did you just ignore it?

By 'was associated with them' what do you mean.

Just pretend your not in.

Popping in the nick a bit later.
I'm more annoyed with the company that does owe them money, the same ones that owe me for wages, fuel, phone, tools goods etc etc.

the-mufin-man
No invoice from them, though I think they factor through a bank???

gusamc
I worked for them, but like I said I never got a contract or any salary ever. In fact I put my hand in my pocket for them.

if they have said they are going to collect cash or take goods, i woudl presume they have a court order, if they do have a court order, they can legally take the items from your premises, and if that order is presented and the police are there, the police will let them take the property listed, if you cause problems at the scene you could be arrested .
so............, go and speak to them now, ask them what power they have to take the items, and talk to them, if you dont fully explain the position, and they haev an order they will come.
even if they are wrong in the long run, it wont help you because you will be without property until the dispute is resolved, the company will probably have bought a debt from somone else and will be collecting
Ring them today without fail

Surley if they intend to sieze goods then they have to prove your the one that owes them (are they Bailiffs) if so get onto the court, if you know where this other company that operated out of your premises are then give them their address.

I've said also that I'll make sure I'm on my own

Are you ****ing us?

in that case og good luck, can you meet them under a cctv ?

wear a dress and make up and pretend you are your secretary and that you are out

then bolt crop him

Have folk that come out with this stuff on internet forums ever done it in real life?

[url= http://www.youtube.com/user/JesusTNT17#p/a/f/0/6uUciQA2-7Y ]maybe an STW 'massif' could be there to tap their keyboards furiously in their direction?[/url]

"Black yourself up" with boot polish then sue them for racial harassment if things turn nasty. Much more likely to achieve a favourable result this way.

What?.............

ton - Member
do not resort to violence.........it does not work..

That's a bit rich coming from you.

I think there's more to this than meets the eye. oldgit is being terribly vague about the old "business" and his new "business" and the "sharing" of premises etc... 🙄

Offer them sex, it scares all the girls away from me so should work on blokes too. Mind you, oldgit you might be tastier looking or lucky/unlucky..

Even if a companies accounts are factored the invoices are usually generated by the company selling the goods and are still sent to the address on the invoice.

Deadly

The old business wasn't or isn't mine never has been. I was asked to work for them which I did for a while until as I said no contract or salary ever came my way so I left.
At the time I had my own little industrial unit I rented. I worked out of it on their behalf paying the bills (subbing I suppose)and invoicing them to 'the other company' I never saw this money either.
The other company for a while listed my address as the business address, which I removed when I found out.
It's like you working for Fords buying department then setting up youre own business and finding |Fords creditors coming after you.
It's so simple really nothing to do with me.

Um, why not just get your solicitor onto it? If you have already outlined their error to them and they have ignored you then this seems the logical route? Or is it just me..........

[i]cynic-al - Member
Have folk that come out with this stuff on internet forums ever done it in real life? [/i]

[i]riding a 29er but not blowing a trumpet about it - Member
wear a dress and make up and pretend you are your secretary and that you are out

[/i]

erm.... 😳

fair enough oldgit, only teasing fella 😀

Do you have access to an acid bath? Its an idea - either hide inside it or use it to hide their bodies?

Hide your cash. Move your goods. They can take possession of as much fresh air as they like...

Dress like brave Heart. Skirt and make up, Scream war cry as they come through the door and let god decide who the victor should be!!

Obviously change sword for a set of bombers and war cry of " You cant take our freedom!!!" for you aint getting my lap top.

Own their ar$$. 😈
Got to love the internet for good useful info

Or is it just me..........

No, it's not [i]just[/i] you......

logical

You've lost me?

Anyways, back to trannys, boltcroppers and acid baths.

Jamie - Member

logical

You've lost me?

Anyways, back to trannys, boltcroppers and acid baths.

😆

Sorry, i forgot where i was for a second there.......

I can't believe there's been no advice to own 'em with a set of bombers or mention of footwear urination...

Given the responses I'm not entirely sure if your post is a joke or genuine. If it helps I do recall as a student a friend had their stuff cleared out by a balif due to a previous tenants debts.

She got the stuff back eventually but she made the mistake of opening the door and they shoved their foot in the door, just came in a took her stuff.

I doubt the police will be giving you a great amount of advice, it sounds more like you should be speaking to the CAB re your rights and explaining the situation, and what to do next.

I've been to the police and I've been given a contact number, though if it was to get out of hand have 999 in my mobile ready to go.
Spoke to companies house for the record.
Now I'm getting grief from the outfit that I was working for i.e the ones that do owe the money.
I'll steer well away from dealing with 'foreign' businesses again.

Rock ---- oldgit ---- hardplace

Put a nice big price tag on everything that moves, take photos, and send a copy to your solicitor.

When they come round, video yourself reading out your "you've got the wrong firm, and everything you remove will be invoiced per the price label" speech off a piece of paper and then send them a bill for everything they take.

+1 for locking the door and going to the pub.

Why are you on here asking us, instead of a) police, b) solicitor or c) CAB?

fadda
Just spouting off. I could speak to a solicitor and they'd just say the same, that they can't do anything by law. Wont stop them coming round though will it.

i is a solicitor , i think you should see one quick and get a letter sent over setting out your position :-
A)the debt is nothing to do with you.
B)the old company are now nothing to do with you or your address
C)there is no property belonging to the old company at your address
D)any further demands or visits will be reported to the police as blackmail and harrasment and will result in both civil and criminal actions.
this May not stop them but will in any event put you in a strong position . Do not allow them or bailiffs access to the property unless they have a warrent to gain access which in the circumstances as you describe they won't have.
Legal advice as above and letter likly to cost you circa £140

Well not had any replies back.
I tracked down the company that does owe the money and had a word. They're in trouble. He did confirm that the company chasing money is factored and insured against loss, which makes it doubley odd that they've contacted me? seriously trying it on I think, perhaps they're in trouble.
Now back to bikes and porn 🙂

Oooh I'm all a bit concerned because they're not here yet, anything could have happened to them they might be squashed or mangled somewhere 😆

hope it sorts itself in your favor oldgit

You cant take peoples stuff in respect of debt without a court order that you actually owe the money. Baliffs cannot just walk in without a court order.

Well I got fed up with waiting, so I called them back to see when we could sort it. I didn't get an answer, but later I did get a mail.
quote 'I've got a horrible throat infection at the mo so I'm at home, will probably call next week'

Is there a word for pedaling backwards?

lol, offer some throat lozenges as payment?

pah . . . . James Cameron could have written a better ending! 😉

It's not over yet Whathaveisaidnow, I'm going on the attack Grrrrr.

[b]oldgit[/b]

Is there a word for pedaling backwards?

Yes, "[s]Backpedalling[/s] Tergiversate"

oh its irony, now I get it 😀

lol !

"Sorry Jonny can't come round to k*ck the sh*t out of you, he's not feeling very well. Hopes to make it next week. Love and kisses."