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I'm very quickly getting pins and needles/dead hands on my motorbike. Within ten minutes usually.

I'm wondering if it's because of the sweep. I get pins and needles on my mountainbike but less quickly.

If I look at my hands outstretched on the bar, they seem to be relatively straight, knuckles in line with my chest. The bar however is sweeping backwards a fair bit and it feels like this is putting weird pressures on my hands and wrists.

Holding the throttle open makes it worse I think.

I feel like my mtb bars have much less sweep and my body is more used to that now and can't cope with the motorbike.

It's a retro type GSX750 so I'm not laying forwards on my hands like a race rep, and I have Renthal superbike bars on there which have a medium sort of rise. I've played with different positions by rotating them but it doesn't seem to help much.

Anyone got any idea what sort of bars tend to have the least sweep? I'm wondering if motocross bars might be better?


 
Posted : 23/06/2019 8:33 pm
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No idea about bar position, but could it be down to vibration?


 
Posted : 23/06/2019 8:59 pm
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If not vibration could they be too high, causing your wrists to turn up?
Maybe restricting blood circulation?
On a un-faired motorcycles I’ve always found lower clip-on type bars work well with wind resistance pushing against you and a fuel tank to grip with your knees.


 
Posted : 23/06/2019 9:16 pm
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Have you rotated the bars at all ... that could help?
Have you tried to move the levers a tad .. up or down?


 
Posted : 23/06/2019 9:20 pm
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Yeah rotated the bars, levers are currently almost parallel to the ground.

Can't think the bars would be too high but it's worth a study. I feel like it's a pretty relaxed riding style of bike.

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I'm wondering about trying motocross bars as I believe they have less sweep. 🤔


 
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MX bars might be worth a look but would think they are designed to work best when stood up on the bike.


 
Posted : 24/06/2019 6:36 am
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the natural / neutral position for your wrists is with a bit of sweepback and more downward slope than seems right if you are used to MTB bars - which put your wrists under strain. I would try rotating the bars back towards you.

You can get raised clip ons that have a lot of adjustability or JOTA bars that do the same. I wonder if the non standard bars are too wide / high?


 
Posted : 24/06/2019 6:44 am
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Rotate the levers so they are not parallel to the road but angle down. In effect you are angling your wrists up when you ride. It’s the sakes as on an MTB.
The other thing in bar vibration... try different bar ends (in the olden days, people used to glue in lead shot ...)


 
Posted : 24/06/2019 7:40 am
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Cheers for the suggestions. I've rotated the bars back a little, and that's what's bought the levers level with the ground (didn't have a 10mm spanner in my bike tool kit) so will try moving them.

It could be vibration I suppose, but it happens very quickly a lot of the time. I think the fact that you're twisting a throttle and maintaining its position wherever doesn't help, as it's like a constant resistance to your hand, though saying that, I get it in both hands.

I'm also wondering about my gloves. Perhaps they're putting pressure where they shouldn't, although they don't seem particularly tight.

MX bars might be worth a look but would think they are designed to work best when stood up on the bike.

True-ish. It's a lot of both from what I observe.

You can get raised clip ons that have a lot of adjustability or JOTA bars that do the same

Yeah, might be worth getting something I can adjust and play around with before I search for anything permanent, which I'd prefer.

try different bar ends (in the olden days, people used to glue in lead shot …)

Only issue is I have bar end mirrors so need something that works with them.


 
Posted : 24/06/2019 7:52 am
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levers starting point is usually in line with your forearms. With the more upright position they will be higher than a bicycle.


 
Posted : 24/06/2019 8:22 am
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How wide are your bars OP? I find motorcycle stuff way too narrow now, coming back to it from MTB. A friend's dad has a really nice Street Triple R and the bars are like something from a 90s MTB they're that skinny, it's crying out for some MX bars on it.


 
Posted : 24/06/2019 11:23 am
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BTW ... I have the opposite issue. Fine on the motorbike ... but real issue on mountain bikes


 
Posted : 24/06/2019 12:49 pm
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Carpal syndrome (not saying that's what you have) can actually originate in the shoulders. Net, you may want to think about shoulder area. People with gaming neck can experience carpal syndrome I think - could be something similar ? Guesswork on my side but as you say it comes on quicker than expected makes m think it's not the hands themselves.

Additional note: the shoulder & arm position can basically impact nerves / blood flow to your hands.


 
Posted : 24/06/2019 12:56 pm
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How wide are your bars OP? I find motorcycle stuff way too narrow now, coming back to it from MTB.

They're around the 735mm mark. Renthal Superbike low, or ultra-low, I forget. I know what you mean about the narrowness. There doesn't seem to be much wider readily available.

I have 780mm bars on 2 mtbs, and 750mm on another. Going to the motorbike does seem narrow. I live in Warwickshire and don't commute on it so don't really need to squeeze through city traffic. The bar-end mirrors must make them about 200mm wider anyway all-in and I manage just fine in traffic.

Carpal syndrome (not saying that’s what you have) can actually originate in the shoulders.

That has crossed my mind actually. Guess I should get that checked out.

The difference between the sweep on the mtb and the MotoB is pretty marked though. Got to be something in it.


 
Posted : 24/06/2019 4:58 pm