[Closed] BAN TRUMP FROM THE UK PETITION

We understand how the elective system works though don't we. If someone votes labour when Blair is leader, it's not a stretch to suggest that they know what they are voting for, particularly when he's the most visible labour person in the campaign.

Its not pedantic to point out that we dont vote for the PM its just a fact.

We understand how the elective system works though don't we.

you seem to be arguing that a shift from a Labour government to today's Conservative government wasn't a shift to the right

Then after all the Trump publicity you have the Clinton as the next Merican President ... Oh me goat ... not another Clinton.

It's a bit like Mrs Blair becoming the next leader of Labour party and the next British PM innit. 😆

That will learn you! 😯

It's like JFK all over again ... 😮

However subeditors, headline writers, and TV/radio news input controllers, don't appear to agree with you.

The numbers don't & wont lie - he's only in the press because it's click bait/copy.

What would you rather everyone did?

Pretend it didn't exist or face up to his ugly side of politics?

He's a news channels wet dream.

Well, I enjoyed signing that petition. I can't believe I'd not seen a link to it on my Facebook feed. Facebook loves sending me things to sign.

Anyway, nope if we ban rappers and hate preachers we ban that nasty piece of work. There's more than a whiff of Kristallnacht about him.

In the spirit of continuity may I assume Japan's Immigration policy is lunacy also? Do we need another petition ?

Do we need another petition ?

There are certainly some interesting ones in there....

Stop all immigration and close the UK borders until ISIS is defeated.
444,712 signatures

[url= https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions?state=open ]And they're all shit. This whole petition thing is a pathetic waste of space.[/url]

I think we should all be communist. End off. Ya, Left enough?

With communism we all need permit to travel from one region to another ... ya ... Communist!

If you lot compare to me now you lot are bourgeoisie pretending to be communist. 😆

If the entire country turns communist now I will even be better off with my current pay ... 😆

Stop all immigration and [b]close the UK borders [/b]until ISIS is defeated.
444,712 signatures

konabunny - Member

Stop all immigration and close the UK borders until ISIS is defeated. 444,712 signatures

I wouldn't have thought there are 444,000 seaside B&B owners in the whole of the UK, but apparently there are.

So when other petition for their concerns you consider them unworthy but when you petition for something yours are worthy ... 😯

HHhhmmm ... my gut feeling tells me something is not right but I cannot put my finger on it ... hmm ... so sneaky they are (Yoda's tone). 😆

he's only in the press because it's click bait/copy.

He's only in the press because he is seeking the Republican nomination for president in 2016, and the previous US President was a Republican.

If he was seeking the nomination for some fringe political party he would be mostly ignored.

However much you might like to dismiss Trump the reality is that today he has significant input in the mainstream debate.

And I certainly don't think that his brand of bigotry should be ignored, nor do I think it should be treated as if it's harmless and some sort of joke, which appears to be the attitude of some.

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ernie_lynch - Member
However much you might like to dismiss Trump the reality is that today he has significant input in the mainstream debate.

What are you talking about? Clinton is going to be the next Merican President. End off.

Debate how you like she is going to be the Merican President that will learn you ... 😆

[b]edit: Oh ya define "... good men ..." [/b]

And I certainly don't think that his brand of bigotry should be ignored, nor do I think it should be treated as if it's harmless and some sort of joke, which appears to be the attitude of some

Well, since we mostly agree except on one thing.

A plan of action? A question I've asked 3 times now & which you have yet to answer....

I say get him in the spotlight & lets have a closer look a him.....& you say?...

 

[quote=Junkyard ]FWIW I though it was a clever joke by aracer on them moving closer to each other

Exactly - though your words are far better than mine, my only excuse for being so accidentally obtuse is that I was in a hurry. The point being that our government is still way to the left of the current US government.

I offer my sincere apologies as I appear to have started a particularly stupid argument about Blair being more right wing than Cameron (which I certainly wasn't suggesting).

Trump's ratings amongst Republican Primary voters are up 😥

He described Katie Hopkins as a "respected journalist" (apologies if that's been posted already)

The point being that our government is still way to the left of the current US government.

Which policies do you think 'our government' are pursuing which are 'way to the left of the current US government' ?

[url= http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/25/barack-obama-backs-gordon-brown ]Barack Obama backs Gordon Brown's handling of global recession[/url]]

[i]"US president fails to endorse David Cameron's deficit reduction strategy but praises his predecessor at No 10"[/i]

But the Tories are "way to the left" of the Obama administration?

I was comparing the government, not Obama vs Cameron. The US government is more than Obama.

Surely we all agree that america is more right wing in general than we are in general

The US government is more than Obama

Of course it is. And 'our government' is more than Cameron. Which why I said the Tories and the Obama administration.

So getting back to your point that our government is "way to the left" of the current US government, can you provide a list of our policies which our government is implementing that are "way to the left" of the policies being implemented by the current US government?

500,000 signatures now

Bit of a read but fascinating how all his current rhetoric is at odds with what he's said in the past.

It's like he's just saying it now because he thinks it's popular with a certain segment of the voters, not because he believes it.

[url= http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-has-even-flip-flopped-on-bigotry#.adyKOLL8R ]http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-has-even-flip-flopped-on-bigotry#.adyKOLL8R[/url]

A politician is saying stuff he doesn't necessarily believe in ?

Some people claim that "respected columnist" Katie Hopkins, as Donald Trump likes to call her, doesn't actually believe a lot of she says either.

Liked this: Harrison Ford explains to Donald that "Air Force One" was just a movie.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35059128

Didn't like this: Daily Express reports Donald is right, police say there are No Go areas in London due to ISIS (despite the Met saying exactly the opposite!)
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/625545/Donald-Trump-Muslims-speech-British-police-ISIS-radicalisation-London

People the Home Office will exclude from the UK: a West Country pensioner! http://m.westbriton.co.uk/Home-Office-hits-deportation-row-Falmouth/story-28253828-detail/story.html

Serving officers in terrorist hotspots including London and Birmingham said that forces are becoming increasingly nervy over the rising threat of Islamic State (ISIS) inspired attacks, with some telling staff not to wear their uniforms in their OWN patrol cars.

It's funny how police uniforms attract ISIS terrorists.

Luckily I'm not a copper so I'm really not worried about ISIS inspired terrorist attacks in London. I just hope that the terrorists don't change tactics and start targeting civilians instead.

You hear people say [i]“there’s no such thing as bad publicity”[/i]
Trump and Hopkins make it look like it works,but there must come a point where all their spin flatlines or bites them on the arse.

Liked this: Harrison Ford explains to Donald that "Air Force One" was just a movie.

Longer version:

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[quote=konabunny ]People the Home Office will exclude from the UK: a West Country pensioner!

Except of course he isn't excluded from the UK. I don't think Trump is planning to apply to be a UK resident.

No, he hasn't been excluded yet - hence the use of the future tense.

Let's say we banned him, what then if he actually became president.

The guy will be up against Bernie Sanders and Hilary Clinton - he is going to win.

he referred to that creature Hopkins as a "respected journalist"
* banning him, BURN THE *ER

haha, I hadn't seen that roasting before.

Unless the blacks were a family of white people. hahaha

Good to see obama break into a fit of the giggles at that one ^

Trump really has no humour has he and it was a good line about the blacks that even Obama could not stifle his laughter.

To have that fragile an ego, that you can't laugh along, says something about the man...

Yes, Donald, we sure do have a "Muslim problem". I guess this must be what you're talking about, huh?

[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/storm-desmond-muslim-charity-dispatched-to-cumbria-amid-further-flood-warnings-a6767066.html ]Would you like some help?[/url]

I forget which journalist it was, but one on Twitter was talking about how he wrote an article which mentioned as an aside that Donald Trump had quite small thumbs.

Donald took that personally.

Apparently he still gets the occasional text from Trump, with a picture of his thumb and the words "Look! Normal sized!"

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For those who think that Donald Trump's insane rantings are fairly harmless and that the way to deal with them is by engaging him in debate.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/18/republicans-are-so-bullish-on-war-that-30-percent-would-bomb-a-fictional-country

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/12/trump-leads-grows-nationally-41-of-his-voters-want-to-bomb-country-from-aladdin-clinton-maintains-bi.html

Trump has helped significantly in spreading division and hatred. Clearly he should be banned from the UK under existing government policy of banning hate preachers.

I still vote for Trump if he is here just to annoy the lefties ...

Is that roasting supposed to be funny?
Is it "unless the blacks were a family of white people."?
What is so funny about that?

That bloke thinks he is funny? Really?

A bit like me saying JKF was suicide innit?

Funny - the lefties jump up and down complaining how the press don't give Corbyn fair representation, yet remain oblivious to the possibility that the press representation of Trump might just be p, shock horror, unrepresentative and biased

Personally I suspect trump knows exactly what he is doing, and is delibaretly trolling the lefties for shits and giggles, and probably loving every minute of it. As with all politicians, sometimes it's Well worth watching one of his full speeches to get the context & humour, rather than being outraged after watching a 30 second edited snippet.

Personally I suspect trump knows exactly what he is doing

Who on earth thinks Trump doesn't know what he's doing ffs?

And the "shits and giggles" that you talk about has led to the majority of registered Republican voters now supporting a ban on Muslims being allowed entry into the US, 30% want to bomb a fictional place from a Walt Disney cartoon, and 28% want mosques in the US to be shut down. I expect those figures to continue to grow

Pick your knuckles off the floor and read the link :

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/12/trump-leads-grows-nationally-41-of-his-voters-want-to-bomb-country-from-aladdin-clinton-maintains-bi.html

You might think it's all just a bit of a laugh but it must be a very scary time for Muslims living in the US.

And we really don't need Trump spreading his poison and lies over here.

Ah, ridiculous polls!

It's like jumping up and down saying that a quarter of British Muslims supported the Charlie Hebdo massacre - you can make a poll say just about whatever you want if you try hard enough.

So you think Trump [i]"knows exactly what he is doing"[/i] but that he's having no effect on US politics - the polls must be made up.

You must be either very stupid ninfan or believe that those who listen to your nonsense are very stupid.

Although I suspect that it's probably a bit of both.