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Meatless burgers are, and I kid you not, a dreadful plot to alter human DNA so that humans cannot be ‘born again’!
It’s true, this man says so!

https://boingboing.net/2019/06/17/meatless-burgers-are-satans.html


 
Posted : 18/06/2019 7:40 pm
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Well that's a bit of a blow 😐


 
Posted : 18/06/2019 7:43 pm
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Ah cripes, I've just got into LindaMc veggie burgers too


 
Posted : 18/06/2019 7:44 pm
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****, I had spicy bean burgers for tea!


 
Posted : 18/06/2019 7:49 pm
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Surely they're Seitan's work.


 
Posted : 18/06/2019 7:54 pm
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Nice work bob_summers.


 
Posted : 18/06/2019 7:56 pm
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Lol at Bob


 
Posted : 18/06/2019 7:58 pm
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Food Standards Agency are going to devise a new rating system.


 
Posted : 18/06/2019 10:36 pm
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Food Standards Agency are going to devise a new rating system.

1 to 7?


 
Posted : 18/06/2019 10:47 pm
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I'm not veggie or vegan but I had a vegan kebab the other week. It was bloody delicious.

I think it had tofu in it.

Hell: get ready, here I come!


 
Posted : 18/06/2019 11:04 pm
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Surely they’re Seitan’s work.

Perchy, you have a contender.


 
Posted : 18/06/2019 11:19 pm
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Doublethink that concept - meat eating makes you a gullible fool!


 
Posted : 18/06/2019 11:27 pm
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So being a vegetarian would keep all those god botherers from knocking on my door?

It might be worth the sacrifice.

Having said that, those cheese infused burgers the wife did last night were delicious.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 5:49 am
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Follow the money, Mr Wiles based in Dallas, Texas, right in the middle of cattle country (Texas is by far the largest beef producing region in by far the world's largest beef producing country.)

I'd be happy to bet that he and/or his supporters have a strong financial interest in God-fearing Americans continuing to eat unsustainable amounts of hormone injected beef.

It's always about the grift with these people, and if they have to make the world an angrier, more divided place to keep the money flowing in, then so be it, it's enough to make you go Vegan.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 9:21 am
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Go vegan for the hellth benfits.

I'll take my al dante thanks.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 10:04 am
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So being a vegetarian would keep all those god botherers from knocking on my door?

Oddly enough, I had the JWs at my door about half an our ago, first time in years. I wonder how much take-up they get round here given that I'm probably one of about three households on the block that isn't Muslim.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 10:45 am
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The devil still has all the best tunes though, right? Cool. Pass me another veggie burger please.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 11:12 am
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A/ You don't have to eat mass produced burgersbangersrissoles to be veggie

B/ that's just raised my opinion of them. If it stops ****s breeding bring it on


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 11:40 am
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I thought this was the Devil's Food?


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 11:44 am
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What tyres for the downhill all the way to hell..?


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 11:57 am
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I wonder how much take-up they get round here given that I’m probably one of about three households on the block that isn’t Muslim.

My neighbour deliberately knocks on doors in such neighbourhoods and avoids houses which look like they're inhabited by old folks, minimises uptake meaning she hits her weekly quota of doors that much quicker.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 12:00 pm
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Wow, religious beliefs are now integral to our DNA? Who knew?


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 12:01 pm
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What tyres for the downhill all the way to hell..?

Anything thats never been near a specialised butcher.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 12:02 pm
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Meanwhile, coming to a fast food outlet near you soon.
Vegetable Tubes


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 12:43 pm
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Nice work bob_summers.

not worthy


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 12:50 pm
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Posted : 19/06/2019 1:46 pm
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I ate some vegetables last week, then I had diahrrea. Now I'm going to eat some chocolate cake, that picture above just pushed me over the edge and I couldn't resist.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 2:02 pm
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There’s got to be a meat your maker gag in there somewhere


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 2:11 pm
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Meanwhile, coming to a fast food outlet near you soon.
Vegetable Tubes

That's just bloody daft. Are we going to apply it to chicken burgers too, as the word "burger" is associated with beef burgers?

I'd concede that using the word in isolation they may have a point - I have a pack of Quorn bangers in the fridge that just says "6 sausages" on it, so someone who had no idea what Quorn was could be misled I suppose. But that's easily fixed by enforcing labelling to read as "6 meat-free sausages" or "6 vegetarian sausages" rather than banning anything.

"We would want to protect traditional meat-based terms - so we would object to terms like meat-free mince," says a spokesman.

"Mince" literally means to chop up small (it was discussed on The Allusionist podcast last week). I have a jar of minced garlic in the fridge, I'm pretty certain it doesn't contain bits of cow.

I don't think this is anything to do with "clarity" at all, rather that people producing meat want to reduce sales of veggie alternatives by making them sound less appealing.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 2:28 pm
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Seems it was debated in parliament just this morning.

https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/b60ede27-5f78-4589-8df7-e5270142fba2


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 2:33 pm
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It's already been done in France hasn't it?

But yes banning the use of the term burgers on veggie stuff is daft (no more or less mind than "the Vegan Society says... It would [have an] impact [on] vegan's ability to choose food in line with their beliefs easily,")

Sausages are just a shape, burgers are just a shape. A lot of "meat" burgers and sausages don't contain much you'd call meat anyhow. Maybe making walls* label their sausages offal and mechanically reclaimed waste sticks would be better.

Requiring clear info on the package e.g. Meat free seems sensible.

That said it would prevent hipster nonsense like "cauliflower steak" wouldn't it?

*first "crap" sausage brand to spring to mind, they might be OK and 100% prime cuts of pork.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 3:02 pm
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That’s just bloody daft. Are we going to apply it to chicken burgers too, as the word “burger” is associated with beef burgers?

What about cheese burgers, which are mainly, er...?


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 3:09 pm
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What about cheese burgers, which are mainly, er…?

Perfectly plausible to have Quorn cheeseburgers.

What about Hamburgers? (-:


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 3:16 pm
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Sausages are just a shape, burgers are just a shape

A tube is also a shape. And it's different from a sausage.

"Dear Quorn, I bought a pack of your 'Veggie Tubes' the other day and was horrified to find that they are in fact solid all the way through."

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off for a meat-free allantoid sandwich.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 4:47 pm
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Come sweet Beelzeburger©️™️; enshroud me in thy filthy buns.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 7:11 pm
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Cougar - you used to be able to get actual Hamburgers years ago from sellers in the little carts.
Brandon Speedway did them too.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 8:44 pm
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Just had my chicken curry.

I love veg but love my fish/chicken.

Don’t eat beef or pork except one off bacon when wife is away...

Now nice hotels and vegetarian sausages yummy.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 9:09 pm
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"“We would want to protect traditional meat-based terms – so we would object to terms like meat-free mince,” says a spokesman."

Never send this man to the shops to get the mince pies for christmas.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 9:26 pm
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Never send this man to the shops to get the mince pies for christmas.

I'd be rather a lot more pleased with a mince beef pie than a mince meat one. There is a reason you only get them at Christmas, if they were good you'd get them all year round.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 9:30 pm
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Mince pies originally contained meat - hence the name.


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 10:41 pm
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““We would want to protect traditional meat-based terms – so we would object to terms like meat-free mince,” says a spokesman.”

Never send this man to the shops to get the mince pies for christmas.

I, for one, would love to see that man’s reaction when confronted with that exact quote.

If the EU has its way regarding the labelling of sausages, would that mean we could no longer call dachshund’s ‘sausage dogs’?


 
Posted : 19/06/2019 10:42 pm
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Come sweet Beelzeburger©️™️; enshroud me in thy filthy buns.

Ooh, what are you para-quoting there? Only, I know this from the Art of Noise / Max Headroom single "Paranoimia" and always wondered where it came from.


 
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I guess Rick Willes has a problem with the Franciscans, Trappists, Trappistines, Carthusians and Cistercians orders that can be vegetarian for faith based reasons.

The most obvious reasons is to combat the sin of gluttony, through abstinence. Given that people are starving on this planet and that a meat diet takes more land and energy than plant based diet, it could be argued that it would be Christian to abstain to ensure that all humans can share in what god has provided.

Old Testament style--- God said, “See, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so.


 
Posted : 21/06/2019 1:34 pm
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Given that people are starving on this planet and that a meat diet takes more land and energy than plant based diet,

Except there are plenty of aboriginal people who can only exist on a meat-based diet because their environment makes it almost impossible to grow any sort of crop, their animals can feed on what’s available, however, and the people are either nomadic, or coastal based, and eat marine creatures.
Also, in the U.K. animals like sheep and pigs can be kept and grazed on land that is unsuitable for crops, and cattle are largely left to graze on grass; in the US it’s different, their cattle are mostly kept in barns and fed on maize-based cattle feed.
I hope you’re not the sort of cultural imperialist who holds the opinion that aboriginal people should give up their natural lifestyle, just to make westerners feel better about how the environment is being used?


 
Posted : 21/06/2019 7:29 pm
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Don't quote me but I think I read somewhere that samosas in the US have to have meat in them in order to legally carry the label 'samosa'.

This must really be confusing for US Hindus who are vegetarians.

In other news, buffalos don't have wings, turkeys dont carry bacon, mushrooms aren't oysters and spicy beanburgers really aren't that spicy.

(Dips wheat-based disc into a caffeinated hot-water beverage, drizzled with plant-spunk)


 
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@countzero good points well made. My sweeping generalisations are just that and as ever it is to find exceptions. And no I don't expect people that live in harmony with limited resources to make changes to respond to problems we caused. Yes I live in the north, a long way from the east country arable fields, where rank grassland and upland hill farming predominates.

But given you know all this, you also knew what I was clumsily referring to. Livestock supplemented on maize soya and other rich field crops that are energy intensive forms of production, all for out convenience or as a good monk might point out gluttony.

As for me I am a bad attempt at a vegetarian that eats meat when tempted, rides my bike a lot but drives a car a motor home and a motorcycle.


 
Posted : 22/06/2019 8:55 pm
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But given you know all this, you also knew what I was clumsily referring to. Livestock supplemented on maize soya and other rich field crops that are energy intensive forms of production, all for out convenience or as a good monk might point out gluttony.

Absolutely, that’s pretty much the default in North America, as is the regular use of antibiotics, because of the confined conditions the animals are kept in.
It certainly true that cattle are fed with cattle cake and maize here as well, but I believe that’s kept back for indoor feeding when weather conditions make it almost impossible for the herds to graze, it’s much cheaper for animals to eat a natural food source like grass, of which we have an abundance in most of the U.K.


 
Posted : 23/06/2019 12:16 am